Pastor_Bob
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What are your thought s about this trial?
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The George Zimmerman Trial
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Zimmerman will be acquitted and the prosecution will look like a fool.
As Pat Gray said on the Pat and Stu Show, "Another day, another trainwreck for the prosecution".
I just can't imagine any scenario in which Zimmerman is found guilty.
I just can't imagine any scenario in which Zimmerman is found guilty.
If all the professional racists had kept their /;$);-@): mouth shut to begin with, this would have died a natural death a long time ago.
I have no idea the legal possibilities, but I would absolutely LOVE to see Sharpton, Jackson, Lee, the Zero, etc etc that made judgmental comments before any, ANY, facts were known, sued to force each of them to go home in their shorts cause they lost their britches!!!
raying:
Include in the above all the media that were so co-operative in lending their support to the race hustlers.
I have no idea the legal possibilities, but I would absolutely LOVE to see Sharpton, Jackson, Lee, the Zero, etc etc that made judgmental comments before any, ANY, facts were known, sued to force each of them to go home in their shorts cause they lost their britches!!!
raying:Include in the above all the media that were so co-operative in lending their support to the race hustlers.
Personally, I'd want them to come back with the Scottish Verdict: Not Proved, i.e. the State did not make their case beyond a reasonable doubt.
SaggyWoman
Active Member
I would love to have sat on this trial.
I haven't paid enough attention to have an opinion on the trial itself. I'll have to go back and check it out sometime. Once the verdict is in, I'll go back and see how they came to it. That will make more sense than watching bits and pieces now that don't tell the whole story.
I still don't get the ice cream cone controversy. The only thing controversial I saw was someone having his daughter in a public photo, which seems really stupid and dangerous to do when you're the lawyer in such a heated trial. What was supposed to be the big deal about them eating ice cream after what was likely one of the toughest days at work, no matter which lawyer you were?
I still don't get the ice cream cone controversy. The only thing controversial I saw was someone having his daughter in a public photo, which seems really stupid and dangerous to do when you're the lawyer in such a heated trial. What was supposed to be the big deal about them eating ice cream after what was likely one of the toughest days at work, no matter which lawyer you were?
My 2 Cents...how about a nickel:
Hopefully, justice is served and this cowboy wannabe-but-wasn't role playing "tough guy" ...that found his "heroic courage" in taking on a kid, and subsequently started getting his butt whooped, then in pure terror of getting his nose bloodied for his trouble pulled a gun and killed the kid to "protect himself" does some time.
I'd say about 17 years might sound right but that would actually be a pretty light punishment from my personal perspective had it been my son. I'd want his head on a platter and my opinion of the matters involved that lead to my son's death would not escape the jurors ears.
If it were my son and this clown got set free he'd be liable get a taste of his own medicine concerning protecting society against the mentality of this wannabe "crime stopper".
There's no way I'd let him escape his responsibility in this if I were on that jury!
Hopefully, justice is served and this cowboy wannabe-but-wasn't role playing "tough guy" ...that found his "heroic courage" in taking on a kid, and subsequently started getting his butt whooped, then in pure terror of getting his nose bloodied for his trouble pulled a gun and killed the kid to "protect himself" does some time.
I'd say about 17 years might sound right but that would actually be a pretty light punishment from my personal perspective had it been my son. I'd want his head on a platter and my opinion of the matters involved that lead to my son's death would not escape the jurors ears.
If it were my son and this clown got set free he'd be liable get a taste of his own medicine concerning protecting society against the mentality of this wannabe "crime stopper".
There's no way I'd let him escape his responsibility in this if I were on that jury!
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The man deserves his day in court.
convicted1
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The two things that bug me the most was:
1) He refused to listen to 911 when they told him NOT to follow the kid.
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2) As a member of the "crime watch", he had no right to carry a firearm, CCW or no CCW.
If either, or both of these had been done correctly, he wouldn't be on trial, and the 17 y/o wouldn't have been shot.
And to add: He had no right to follow Trayvon Martin to begin with, either. He was looking for, and found, triuble, and could get serious jail time because of it.
I do not know if he's guilty of murder or not, but of stupidity? He's been found guilty of that MONTHS ago.
1) He refused to listen to 911 when they told him NOT to follow the kid.
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2) As a member of the "crime watch", he had no right to carry a firearm, CCW or no CCW.
If either, or both of these had been done correctly, he wouldn't be on trial, and the 17 y/o wouldn't have been shot.
And to add: He had no right to follow Trayvon Martin to begin with, either. He was looking for, and found, triuble, and could get serious jail time because of it.
I do not know if he's guilty of murder or not, but of stupidity? He's been found guilty of that MONTHS ago.
I think there will be some form of "disturbance" with either a conviction or acquittal. Celebratory riots for the former, in protest for the latter.
There is no evidence that Zimmerman is a "cowboy wanna-be." The man wanted to do some good for his community. He was being attacked by a younger, stronger man (thug really) and used all available means to defend himself. This should have never even gone to trial.
From what I gathered Zimmerman stopped following when the 911 operator said he didn't need to. He said something along the lines of "OK, I lost him anyway." IIRC.
And in Florida anyone that isn't a convicted felon (there may be other restrictions I'm not aware of) can get a concealed weapon permit. That has nothing to do with him being neighborhood watch (unless there is some nonsense law AGAINST watch standers carrying that I'm unaware of). Honestly it would be stupid to be a part of a watch program an NOT arm yourself as well as you legally can IMO.
And if he hadn't had the CCW Zimmerman would be dead and Martin would have gone on to a promising life of thuggery and drugs.
Could this have ended better? Absolutely!
Was Zimmerman stupid for getting out of his car? Probably.
But he did nothing illegal or even necessarily wrong.
That is what the media would have you believe. Testimony points to him obeying the 911 operator and returning to his car when Martin became the aggressor.
.As an American citizen, absolutely he had the right to own and carry a firearm. He was wise to, as he probably would have lost his life if he didn't.
No right?!? He was on the neighborhood watch committee and there were recent break-ins.
Carolina Baptist
Active Member
I only know what the news has shown.
Based on that, I believe that there is reasonable doubt of guilt.
And if Martin had “won the fight” there would also be reasonable doubt.
Based on that, I believe that there is reasonable doubt of guilt.
And if Martin had “won the fight” there would also be reasonable doubt.
Watching Nightline - they showed a picture of Martin - with him smiling - like a nice little boy.
A friend of Martin said she was unable to read a letter (or some written info) because she could not read cursive. Wait - she knows what cursive means, but is unable to read it? What am I missing here?
A friend of Martin said she was unable to read a letter (or some written info) because she could not read cursive. Wait - she knows what cursive means, but is unable to read it? What am I missing here?
Those pictures are driving me insane! They are trying to paint the image that Zimmerman shot an innocent, defenseless 12 year old. Never mind the other pictures, that apparently came from his FB page of Martin flipping off the camera and posing with a gun.
The media are accusing Zimmerman of being a wanna-be cop. Well Martin was a wanna be thug.
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convicted1
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You very well may be right. I am under the notion that, eventhough he was part of the neigborhood watch, he wasn't allowed to carry a firearm while on patrol. But I could be wrong. I am hard pressed to believe he will be convicted. If he isn't, there's gonna be a riot, I am afraid.
Just because a kid knows the difference between McDonalds and Burger king does not mean they can read the menu.
Just because a kid knows the difference between boxers and briefs does not mean they know what brand it is.
Just because this girl knew what cursive means does not mean she can read it. I don't understand why this is a big deal. Perhaps, I am missing something?
There is no way this ends well. However, I believe it can end better then most people think.
In my opinion all he needed to do was call the cops and give a description of the boy and ask to have him checked out.
The boy was walking down the street with a bag and his phone. Not a knife and a mask. He was not posing an immediate threat to himself or anyone else at the time.
Regardess, Zim, did not need to put himself in a situation like this, nor should have, he shot a killed a boy because he chose to bring a gun out and follow a someone.
I think this should go down as manslaughter and he should get 5 years. I am not entering in all the evidence because frankly I have no idea ( nobody does) what truly took place that night.
However, I do know what I said and I think what he did deserves some time and will perhaps keep riots and feelings a bit more at bay.
If he gets off scott free, who knows what will happen but I am sure more death will follow and will pray for this situation.