The GOP’s economic agenda for women

[poncho]

What are you asking? Why didn't I call "off topic"? Why didn't I press the "report post" button?

I didn't post in that thread, so why should I police it? Besides I try to avoid anything to do with Ron Paul.

The questions aren't important. What's important is that your help in derailing this thread has been duly noted and documented. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[OldRegular]

Asking a woman to vote for a Republican is like asking a mouse to vote for a cat.

CTB you are a pathetic excuse for a disciple unless it is a disciple of Obama. There is not a Republican alive who doesn't have a woman for a mother.

You realize of course that Obama pays the women in the WH less than the men!

 

[OldRegular]

Frankly, I would like to see a party in power that is interested in helping all the people. The Democrats seem to be more in that direction than the GOP.

The democrats are all heart. They only support and celebrate the slaughter of 4000 unborn each day. And you CTB are a disciple of the democrats!

 

[Revmitchell]

The democrats are all heart. They only support and celebrate the slaughter of 4000 unborn each day. And you CTB are a disciple of the democrats!

You have to remember that he needs to feel better about supporting a party that supports abortion. Therefore he needs to soothe his conscience by over rationalizing his support of the DNC.

 

[OldRegular]

You have to remember that he needs to feel better about supporting a party that supports abortion. Therefore he needs to soothe his conscience by over rationalizing his support of the DNC.

He needs to follow Job's example and repent in dust and ashes. Either that or stick his head in the sand!

 

[Crabtownboy]

You have to remember that he needs to feel better about supporting a party that supports abortion. Therefore he needs to soothe his conscience by over rationalizing his support of the DNC.

You continue to post a gross untruth. I do not and have repeatedly said I do not support abortion. Very dishonest of you. I support democrats when they seem more pro-people than their opponents. The GOP has become racist and pro misery and death for the average person. Why do you support such people?

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

You continue to post a gross untruth.

No, he doesn't.

I do not and have repeatedly said I do not support abortion.

I'd ask you to post other quotes form yourself that state this unequivocally, other than this one. I believe this is the first time you have ever used the words "I do not support abortion" in a sentence, and even this one doesn't really say that, just that you claim you have repeatedly said it. I'd like to see the evidence. Until then, this ...

Very dishonest of you.

... is an empty epithet.

 

[OldRegular]

You continue to post a gross untruth. I do not and have repeatedly said I do not support abortion. Very dishonest of you. I support democrats when they seem more pro-people than their opponents. The GOP has become racist and pro misery and death for the average person. Why do you support such people?

You are condemned by your own words as a supporter of the slaughter of the unborn child. Furthermore falsely accusing the Republicans of being racist is hypocritical and false. Your repeated argument that Republicans hating women and the average person really is juvenile CTB. The misogynists are in the democrat party. They are slaughtering about 2000 very young women each day. But of course since they and their leader support homosexual marriage no problem!

 

[Crabtownboy]

You are condemned by your own words as a supporter of the slaughter of the unborn child. Furthermore falsely accusing the Republicans of being racist is hypocritical and false. Your repeated argument that Republicans hating women and the average person really is juvenile CTB. The misogynists are in the democrat party. They are slaughtering about 2000 very young women each day. But of course since they and their leader support homosexual marriage no problem!

When you stop your untruthful accusations of me being pro abortion I will then begin to consider you as being honest.

You simply do not like being show that you support misery and death, which you do as you support GOP policies that do exactly that.

I oppose both abortion, capital punishment and taking away from people things that will make their life better. I am much more pro-life than you. Face it, it is true.

And, the GOP is going to gradually change their stance on abortion, women and normal people or they will gradually disappear as a viable political party. The number of while old men, like you and me, is declining in the US. It does not matter if you or I like that or that it, it is reality.

 

[Crabtownboy]

No, he doesn't.I'd ask you to post other quotes form yourself that state this unequivocally, other than this one. I believe this is the first time you have ever used the words "I do not support abortion" in a sentence, and even this one doesn't really say that, just that you claim you have repeatedly said it. I'd like to see the evidence. Until then, this ... ... is an empty epithet.

THDC, I have over the last several years said that I am opposed to abortion a number of times. I have also said that I oppose capital punishment and oppose policies that take away from the poor and give to the rich.

I have also said that though I oppose abortion I do not believe this belief can be proven by scripture. There is only one verse in the Bible that, even with a stretch, be interpreted as being about abortion.

I have also said that Roe v Wade is probably a permanent law as it has more rulings in its favor than any other issue in our history. That is the primary reason I hold that there are better fights to enter where there is a possibility of winning. If the sitting justices were honest in their hearings by congress then they will not overturn Roe v Wade.

You can bring up all my posts and read through them and you will find that I have said I oppose abortion quite a number of times. You will never find me saying that I approve this practice.

 

[Revmitchell]

Just to point out I have not said anything about crabby supporting abortion in this thread.

 

[InTheLight]

Just to point out I have not said anything about crabby supporting abortion in this thread.

Just to point out that OldRegular is being his monomaniacal self again and injecting abortion into every thread that Crabby posts into. He's like a stalker.

 

[Revmitchell]

Just to point out that OldRegular is being his monomaniacal self again and injecting abortion into every thread that Crabby posts into. He's like a stalker.

I don't have anything to do with that. Crabby accused me of saying he supports abortion. I have not said that.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

THDC, I have over the last several years said that I am opposed to abortion a number of times.

I did so, though obviously it was a cursory review. You've made a lot of posts over the last six years. What I have found is very interesting.

You have said at least twice "I hate abortions," but in both cases you went on to define life as beginning with "first breath" and have made the ridiculous claim that the Bible says that is when life begins. That is incorrect, and you know that it is incorrect. David, in Psalm 139, refers to "me" -- himself -- as being formed in the womb by the hand of God.

Psalm 139, NASB
13 For You formed my inward parts;
You wove me in my mother's womb.
14 I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Wonderful are Your works,
And my soul knows it very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from You,
When I was made in secret,
And skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth;
16 Your eyes have seen my unformed substance;
And in Your book were all written
The days that were ordained for me,
When as yet there was not one of them.​

It is said of this passage ...

Answers In Genesis: When does life begin?
Here we read about God knowing the Psalmist while he was “yet unformed,” while he was being “made in secret,” in a place invisible to human eyes. The uses of the personal pronouns in these verses indicate that there was, indeed, a person present before birth. R.C. Sproul notes, “Scripture does assume a continuity of life from before the time of birth to after the time of birth. The same language and the same personal pronouns are used indiscriminately for both stages."

David writes from an inspired perspective. So does Jeremiah.

Jeremiah 1
4 Now the word of the LORD came to me saying,
5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
And before you were born I consecrated you;
I have appointed you a prophet to the nations."​

God directly states to Jeremiah that he was set apart before he was born. That proves Jeremiah was a person in his mother's womb. Alive. Sanctified. In God's hands.

There are other passage that disprove your contention of "first breath" being the beginning of life. David speaks of being conceived in sin -- indicating he was a person at conception. Mary told Dr. Luke of how Elizabeth's child, John, "leaped in the womb" at the presence of the Savior in her own womb, indicating both were sentient, alive. John would have been only six months along in development, Jesus barely more than a large collection of embryonic cells, and yet He proved He was alive through John's in utero rejoicing!

Your writings on abortion on this board total 279 posts. You go to a great deal of effort to make statements apparently against abortion, followed very quickly by denials the child lives in the womb. You make false claims that your belief is biblically supportable. In short, Crabby, you're a liar. You lie about what the Bible teaches, and I've got to believe you lie about what you really believe.

I'm glad you challenged me to review your posts. I invite everyone else to do the same, guaranteeing they will find exactly what I've found this morning, even through a cursory review, one that I will continue with more depth at my convenience. Nonetheless, what I've seen is very revealing.

We're done. Never again will I bother reading what you have to say, because you, sir, are not what you claim to be.

 

[OldRegular]

When you stop your untruthful accusations of me being pro abortion I will then begin to consider you as being honest.

When you stop voicing your support of the party of death then I will quit accusing you of supporting abortion.

You simply do not like being show that you support misery and death, which you do as you support GOP policies that do exactly that.

Name those policies CTB! If you cannot you are obviously lying!

I oppose both abortion, capital punishment and taking away from people things that will make their life better. I am much more pro-life than you. Face it, it is true.

No you are not. What do you do to oppose abortion? Do you support the many pro-life groups in the country? Do you work in a pro-life or Pregnancy Care center or is it Planned Parenthood? You speak of all these great things you do CTB but get specific.

And, the GOP is going to gradually change their stance on abortion, women and normal people or they will gradually disappear as a viable political party. The number of while old men, like you and me, is declining in the US. It does not matter if you or I like that or that it, it is reality.

So you believe that for a political party to survive in this country they must adopt a policy from the pit of hell Crabbie. I suspect the fact that this country has slaughtered 55 million and more unborn children is one reason that we are on the decline. Another reason is that the leftists controlling the democrat party since WWII have been ashamed of this country and done their best to destroy it. Obama is making rapid progress in that direction. He is destroying the middle income class in this country. Under Obama the rich are getting richer and the rest of us are getting poorer!

Income Gap in America Grows

America's wealthiest citizens got wealthier last year while much of the rest of the nation saw a drop in income, according to 2011 figures released this week by the U.S. Census Bureau.

"The top end took a whack in the recession, but they've gotten back on their feet," Harvard economics professor Lawrence Katz told the New York Times. "Everyone else is still down for the count."

The result is a growing income gap between rich and poor Americans, a trend that began more than three decades ago. The median household income dropped last year to $50,054.

Those at the very top of the income bracket - the top five percent of American households who earn above $186,000 annually - saw a jump of almost 5% in revenue, and the top 20% of households increased their income by 1.6% last year.

The figures show women who work full time earn 77% of what men earn, unchanged from 2010.

But the vast majority of Americans, those in the middle who earn $38,500 to $101,600, lost up to 1.9% of their annual income from 2010. Statistically, the poorest Americans saw no change.

http://en.ria.ru/world/20120914/175944703.html

Just who do you consider normal people CTB, homosexuals. I don't know what you consider a women since Republicans apparently hate women and have no mothers. Sex selection abortions, though illegal, are already taking place in this country.

 

[Revmitchell]

America's wealthiest citizens got wealthier last year

Good for them :thumbs:

 

[Crabtownboy]

Just who do you consider normal people CTB, homosexuals. I don't know what you consider a women since Republicans apparently hate women and have no mothers. Sex selection abortions, though illegal, are already taking place in this country.

Show me where I have said this or apologize. If you cannot show where I have said this you should own up to your mistake and apologize.

By the way if you go to a church of any size you have homosexuals as members and probably you consider them friends. You just do not know they are gay.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Good for them :thumbs:

Are you happy the poor and middle class became poorer?

The Washington, D.C.-based Economic Policy Institute found that incomes earned by the top 1 percent in Nevada increased by 55.4 percent between 1979 and 2011, while the bottom 99 percent’s incomes dropped by 32.1 percent.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/study-rich-getting-richer-poor-getting-poorer-nevada

In SF, the Rich Get Richer and the Poor Poorer

http://missionlocal.org/2014/03/in-sf-the-rich-get-richer-and-the-poor-poorer/

If you are in the upper end of the Middle Class, you may realize some modest improvement. If you are in the mid-range of that class and lower, either things will get worse or stay about the same.

Wealthy and upper middle class do not represent most Americans.

http://www.examiner.com/article/rich-get-richer-poor-get-poorer-2014

These are simply representative of the large amount of literature on the middle class and poor becoming poorer.

Again, does this make you happy???

 

[Revmitchell]

Just because people get rich does not mean that makes others poor. One has nothing to do with the other.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Again, does this make you happy???

Who's in charge ? You seem happy for the suffering as you want it to continue. As people lose insurance, as people leave the workforce, all you can do is twist facts.

Should we vote democrat ?