The Gospel in Six Minutes

[37818]

"how does one know Christ died for one prior to believing"

Think about that.

The gospel, of couse. Romans 5:8, 1 Corinthians 15:3-4. Romans 1:16.

 

[SavedByGrace]

 

[KenH]

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[SavedByGrace]

you are both ways, reformed and not refromed

 

[SavedByGrace]

is that you after you read Gill?

 

[KenH]

is that you after you read Gill?

That's pretty much me 24/7/365.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

you are both ways, reformed and not refromed

Well he did say earlier he is a hyper Calvinist in his beliefs. You don’t have to have studied Calvin to follow his particular understanding of scripture.

 

[KenH]

Well he did say earlier he is a hyper Calvinist in his beliefs. You don’t have to have studied Calvin to follow his particular understanding of scripture.

Well, to be technical about it, I'm a supralapsarian.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Well, to be technical about it, I'm a supralapsarian.

Why?

 

[KenH]

Why?

I've finally read enough about the subject to switch from infralapsarianism to supralapsarianism.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I've finally read enough about the subject to switch from infralapsarianism to supralapsarianism.

Again why? Please substantiate your current stance.

 

[KenH]

Again why? Please substantiate your current stance.

Well, if you would like a 2.5 page explanation, you can go to this link - Systematic Theology (vincentcheung.com) - and start right at the top of page 116 and read down to the middle of page 118.

 

[37818]

I've finally read enough about the subject to switch from infralapsarianism to supralapsarianism.

So we have a clue about your view.
What are infralapsarianism, sublapsarianism, and supralapsarianism? | GotQuestions.org

 

[KenH]

So we have a clue about your view.
What are infralapsarianism, sublapsarianism, and supralapsarianism? | GotQuestions.org

Or one can read the 2.5 pages I provided a link to and read the reasoning and not just a 2 sentence blurb.

 

[37818]

From the standpoint of God's absolute omniscience there is no order with God in this matter.

 

[37818]

The bottom line in this thread, what is being called a six minute gospel message is not the gospel I received to accept Christ.
Romans 3:10
Romans 3:23
Romans 5:12
Romans 6:23
Romans 5:8
Romans 10:9
Romans 10:13
Revelation 3:20

 

[KenH]

The bottom line in this thread, what is being called a six minute gospel message is not the gospel I received to accept Christ.

I would not be surprised since most churches proclaim a false gospel.

There is no "accepting" Christ. Creatures don't get to decide what to do with their Creator; it's the other way around.

 

[37818]

I would not be surprised since most churches proclaim a false gospel.

Bear in mind, if you were calling the true false. Then that could mean the gospel you are calling true could actually be what is false. There is a real problem of wrong invitations being used with the Biblical gospel.

There is no "accepting" Christ. Creatures don't get to decide what to do with their Creator; it's the other way around.

Well what is the opposite of rejecting the gospel of God's grace. It is a problem of language. Using "accept" for "receive" [John 1:12]. Unless God gives one the new birth, there is nothing in man's ability to obtain it. [John 1:13.]

 

[KenH]

@37818

We believe different gospels. It's as clear-cut as that.

 

[37818]

We believe different gospels. It's as clear-cut as that.

The gospel I believe is in my signature at the bottom of my posts. How is it different than yours?