The grim reaper can scare people!

[evangelist6589]

A brother at the Calvinist church says I may or may not be successful doing what I am doing in an attempt to reason with the false teachers but he suggested to dust my feet off and keep on trying. Lots of churches in this area dodge hell and sound doctrine. Perhaps the grim reaper will scare them! I have some tracts that have him on the front cover and even RC Sproul says an effective evangelism method for some. On top of it all my book Heaven and Hell by Edward Donnelly will scare anyone reading it closely of the reality of Hell. My Bunyan book on Hell will have the same effect. I have roughly 5000 different tracts from Way of the Master and many other tract ministries I need to put more to use. A tract for every different kind of unbeliever.

Go and do likewise in your area. Use apologetics to defend the faith. This brother is also big on apologetics as well. But why so many in this board are against it and evangelism of the false teachers?

 

[Don]

Why do you assume anyone's against it?

 

[PreachTony]

A brother at the Calvinist church says I may or may not be successful doing what I am doing in an attempt to reason with the false teachers but he suggested to dust my feet off and keep on trying. Lots of churches in this area dodge hell and sound doctrine. Perhaps the grim reaper will scare them! I have some tracts that have him on the front cover and even RC Sproul says an effective evangelism method for some. On top of it all my book Heaven and Hell by Edward Donnelly will scare anyone reading it closely of the reality of Hell. My Bunyan book on Hell will have the same effect. I have roughly 5000 different tracts from Way of the Master and many other tract ministries I need to put more to use. A tract for every different kind of unbeliever.

Go and do likewise in your area. Use apologetics to defend the faith. This brother is also big on apologetics as well. But why so many in this board are against it and evangelism of the false teachers?

You use the quote "dust my feet off" to say you should keep going. Given that text comes from Luke 9, let's see what Luke says on the matter.

Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.
And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.
And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece.
And whatsoever house ye enter into, there abide, and thence depart.
And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.

The fifth verse is the particular context of your quote, but note what Jesus said to the disciples...He told them to go out and preach the word, taking nothing with them but instead relying on the providence of God.

What I'm trying to say, evangelist, is perhaps place your faith in the word of God to reach those you're talking to, and rely on the Holy Ghost of God to convict people, as John wrote. Don't count on a picture on a tract scaring people into the church.

 

[blessedwife318]

Go and do likewise in your area. Use apologetics to defend the faith. This brother is also big on apologetics as well. But why so many in this board are against it and evangelism of the false teachers?

Apologetics is for believers to help strengthen their faith. It is not for unbelievers. The Word of God is what can and will convict unbelievers. That is where the power lies. Why would I cut myself off from the power by using man written tools.
The Gospel is the power of God for Salvation Rom 1:16, The Word of God is living and active able to divide soul and spirit Heb 4:12, It is God's Word that will not return void Isa 55:11. So you can try to guilt trip this board all you want but its not going to fly with those of us that truly support and defend Sola Scriptura.

 

[Thousand Hills]

evan, you need to print some of these off and pass em out.

http://www.chapellibrary.org/johnbunyan/text/bun-map.pdf

 

[Rolfe]

But why so many in this board are against it and evangelism of the false teachers?

The only thing that I have noticed that people are consistently against is an overemphasis on books written by man in place of Scripture.

 

[Jerome]

Perhaps the grim reaper will scare them! I have some tracts that have him on the front cover and even RC Sproul says an effective evangelism method for some.

The Puritans sure used it in their "man written tool":

New England Primer: Teaching the ABCs Grim Reaper Style

The Puritans were big on reminders of imminent death, the potential for eternity in hell, and making sure one is not found on the business end of eternal judgment. They began that lesson when their kids were young—very young. This is clear in a famous book called The New England Primer.

Consider the letter “Y,” which reads “Youth forward slips, Death soonest nips.” It is accompanied by a grim reaper like figure that is apparently stabbing his arrow of death into the head of a child. Imagine that as your bedtime story.

“T” is no better, as the grim reaper with a scythe appears to be waiting patiently for a child’s time to end.

 

[InTheLight]

The only thing that I have noticed that people are consistently against is an overemphasis on books written by man in place of Scripture.

And (essentially) littering by handing out tracts or putting tracts under windshield wipers.

 

[evangelist6589]

Pulling no punches

When dealing with these Universalist type churches I pull no punches.

I am afraid to inform you that you are proclaiming another gospel and deceiving souls into eternal separation and punishment in a place called Hell. I do not know how one can claim to be a Christian church, and at the same time have fellowship with those that deny God such as atheists and agnostics. I am calling you to repentance so you will not have to face the horrors of Hell such as the person Charlie Conners did in the gospel tract I have provided for you to read. I do not desire you to perish and to be eternally separated from God in hell. I also grieve for all the souls you have deceived. Perhaps myself and my evangelism partner will do some evangelism at your church, but I am not sure as there are so many false churches in the area. I write this letter pleading for your repentance, for if you where to die and go to Hell there will be no second chances. Please repent and come to Christ. Contact me please for I pray for your soul.

 

[evangelist6589]

You use the quote "dust my feet off" to say you should keep going. Given that text comes from Luke 9, let's see what Luke says on the matter.



The fifth verse is the particular context of your quote, but note what Jesus said to the disciples...He told them to go out and preach the word, taking nothing with them but instead relying on the providence of God.

What I'm trying to say, evangelist, is perhaps place your faith in the word of God to reach those you're talking to, and rely on the Holy Ghost of God to convict people, as John wrote. Don't count on a picture on a tract scaring people into the church.

The tracts are used as a secondary source to my letters. If I only sent the tracts and not a letter then I would not be using my own mind. But someone just informed me last night of the many mind science, or science of the mind so called churches in the Denver area.

I was gonna write a letter and send some tracts to at least one of them, but not sure as they seem more cultic and not exactly like the false teachers Jude mentions. Instead the Lord provided me with an Emerging Church that I am gonna send a letter and some tracts too. This Emerging church seems to rally love Rob Bell and Brian McLarren as most of the books they recommend their people to read on their website are written by these false teachers.

 

[evangelist6589]

evan, you need to print some of these off and pass em out.

http://www.chapellibrary.org/johnbunyan/text/bun-map.pdf

What is this?

 

[PreachTony]

The tracts are used as a secondary source to my letters. If I only sent the tracts and not a letter then I would not be using my own mind. But someone just informed me last night of the many mind science, or science of the mind so called churches in the Denver area.

I was gonna write a letter and send some tracts to at least one of them, but not sure as they seem more cultic and not exactly like the false teachers Jude mentions. Instead the Lord provided me with an Emerging Church that I am gonna send a letter and some tracts too. This Emerging church seems to rally love Rob Bell and Brian McLarren as most of the books they recommend their people to read on their website are written by these false teachers.

I can't help but get the sense from you, evan, that you don't believe sola scriptura is sufficient. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[evangelist6589]

I can't help but get the sense from you, evan, that you don't believe sola scriptura is sufficient. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

You make that up to cause division. STOP!!!!! I do not write any letter to any church that takes the bible seriously and yes I have even skipped A letter to a Weslyian church as it was clear they held to the essentials and took the bible seriously.

 

[PreachTony]

You make that up to cause division. STOP!!!!! I do not write any letter to any church that takes the bible seriously and yes I have even skipped A letter to a Weslyian church as it was clear they held to the essentials and took the bible seriously.

Why do you believe it is a divisive tactic by myself to simply ask you if believe the Scriptures alone to be sufficient?

Honestly, it doesn't seem as if you do. It seems you think the scriptures are great, but it's nice to tack on whatever the author of the week has to say about it. It concerns me, because these authors you turn to can get things wrong. They can twist scripture to their point of view. And you have a highly populated area there in Denver. I don't want people who need the Lord to be led astray in the early days of their faith because of the thoughts of a human author.

I've never sat in a church that used the Bible and Dr. So-and-So's Eschatology Study and the tract from the Street Ministry down the road. The Bible was always enough, it is enough, and it will always be enough. Study afterwards, and increasing knowledge, is good. I don't disagree. But you cannot take a new convert and give them the deep mysteries of God and expect them to have a healthy walk in the faith. There's a reason Paul stressed the milk of the Word and the strong meat of the Word. Scripture alone will bear out that type of walk. Unless every single one of the book authors and tract authors you support are divinely inspired, then you run the risk of damaging someone else's walk.

 

[Don]

Evangelist, my question:

Why do you assume anyone's against it?

 

[Don]

When dealing with these Universalist type churches I pull no punches.

Do you understand what a braggart this post has made you look like?

 

[Don]

So am I on ignore, or you just don't want to answer?

 

[blessedwife318]

So am I on ignore, or you just don't want to answer?

My guess he doesn't want to answer so he is hoping this thread will die by neglect

 

[Thousand Hills]

What is this?

http://johnbunyanposter.weebly.com/

Today, in an age when our churches have big screens, videos and graphics to adorn our sermons, we take charts and graphics for granted, because they are commonplace tools used in our visually motivated and electronic society. But in Bunyan's age, this was a completely novel idea. Bunyan is the inventor of the first Christian Doctrinal Poster! He took the matter of teaching Theological Truths from just preaching in dimly lit meeting hall pulpits, to the streets, to the highways and byways, and to anyplace that a Bible Doctrine chart (or Mapp as he called it) could be hung, and studied by people.

Several things have made this diagram, chart, map, poster (or whatever you want to call it), a curiosity of the Christian faith.

First of all, it presents a Theological viewpoint, which we seldom encounter today. Strict Absolute Predestinarianism. The chart is one of the best examples of this belief that God is absolutely Sovereign in the planning, securing, and dispensing of of all things; especially in matters of Salvation and Damnation. Bunyan believed that nothing was left to chance, or man's free-will, but that everything was "Ordained" or "Predestined" before creation ever began. The left side of the chart shows the predestined steps of Salvation and the right side shows the steps leading to Damnation. Thus the title of the chart: "The Order and Causes of Salvation and Damnation".

Secondly, It is curious because It is also evangelistic in it's intent. This seems really strange and weird, and almost appears to contradict predestination. But actually it is perfectly consistent with Bunyan's Bible based brand of Evangelical Calvinism. While God predestines everything, and everyone, He has also predestined us to go and preach the gospel message of salvation by grace. So the ultimate intent of the chart is to get people to become believers, and thus to prove their election, and prove that they were "ordained" to be on the left side, and not on the right side. Salvation is by Divine election, but it is received by faith, and faith comes by "hearing the word of God" (Romans 10:17). Bunyan was a preacher of that word, and he believed his chart, and his numerous books and tracts, could be used to awaken sinners to their need for the Savior, and to help them to experience the grace, and mercy found only on the left side of the chart, which is all about salvation in Christ Jesus. Bunyan not only did not see any conflict between predestination and the urgency to evangelize the lost, he actually practiced a quite dynamic and effect ministry of evangelism throughout his entire life and in all his writings. This combination is greatly needed today.