The Harbinger

[evangelist6589]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/161638610X/?tag=baptis04-20

Anyone read this one? What are your thoughts?

 

[Herald]

This book underscores what's wrong with radical dispensationalism. America is not named, either directly or symbolically, in scripture. There are no secrets in America's past that can open a window to the future. The author may not be as radical as John Hagee, but he's close.

 

[DiamondLady]

It's on my shelf to read, behind about ten other books.

 

[evangelist6589]

This book underscores what's wrong with radical dispensationalism. America is not named, either directly or symbolically, in scripture. There are no secrets in America's past that can open a window to the future. The author may not be as radical as John Hagee, but he's close.

There are different degrees and types of Dispensationalists. Charles Ryrie has a winner on the topic. I once had a big argument with a mid Acts dispensationalist. I am by no means a radical dispensationalist. I am a Biblical dispensationalist.

 

[Herald]

There are different degrees and types of Dispensationalists. Charles Ryrie has a winner on the topic. I once had a big argument with a mid Acts dispensationalist. I am by no means a radical dispensationalist. I am a Biblical dispensationalist.

Dispensationalism does come in different flavors but it maintains a basic premise; separation of Israel and the Church and two physical returns of Christ (the rapture and the second coming). Dispensationalism is basically an eschatological system whereas Covenant Theology is more of a comprehensive theology. That's not a dig, just an observation. It's the John Hagee's of the dispensational world that are theologically out to lunch. The thought that Christians can help move up the prophetic clock by assisting Jews to assimilate back into what is now modern day Israel strains credulity.

 

[preachinjesus]

Anyone read this one? What are your thoughts?

I know the author and he begins with one failing premise: He believes the US correlates with Israel.

This is erroneous. Israel has ceased to exist as it did in biblical times and furthermore the Church is the corporate identity through which God is redeeming humanity.

Also, the US isn't mentioned at all in the Bible. The over-realized eschatology of this fellow and a few others is theologically destructive to coherent biblicism.

 

[evangelist6589]

Dispensationalism does come in different flavors but it maintains a basic premise; separation of Israel and the Church and two physical returns of Christ (the rapture and the second coming). Dispensationalism is basically an eschatological system whereas Covenant Theology is more of a comprehensive theology. That's not a dig, just an observation. It's the John Hagee's of the dispensational world that are theologically out to lunch. The thought that Christians can help move up the prophetic clock by assisting Jews to assimilate back into what is now modern day Israel strains credulity.

I dont give a rat about John Haggee and his false doctrines.

 

[Herald]

I dont give a rat about John Haggee and his false doctrines.

I'm glad to hear that (really)! The only reason I mentioned him is that he claims to be a voice for dispensationalism. I can tell from your posts that you have a heart for God and for sharing the Gospel. Have a blessed Lord's Day.