The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

[Internet Theologian]

Now we're getting somewhere!

 

[TCassidy]

I promises all mods admins I will NEVER report another post. I don't care if p@orn is posted on here, someone takes His name in vain, someone denies bible inerrancy, Pauline scriptures are not inspired, someone questions another's salvation. I will not report it.

I evidently will not do any good. And that's sad.

Your choice. But if you don't report posts that violate the forum rules you forfeit your complaining privileges.

 

[TCassidy]

Your avatar would be perfect for that!

Let's see. Yeah. Pretty close!

 

[Iconoclast]

Okay. I reviewed the reported post. Even though the offended party is not the one who reported it, I still went back and reviewed the thread. Here is what I found.


To which Internet Theologian replied:It seems obvious to me this response was made in jest, not withstanding God owning the cattle on a 1000 hills does not preclude Him from owning the cattle on other hills.

I don't have a problem with that statement, obvious sarcasm wielded to make a point.

To which DHK posted:I think DHK over reacted to the post, perhaps not recognizing the sarcasm used to reinforce the point.

But he did not call Internet Theologian a blasphemer. He said what he posted was blasphemy.

Had Internet Theologian actually believed what he was posting was a fact then I would agree, it is blasphemy. But, again, it seems obvious to me it was sarcasm.

In a subsequent post Internet Theologian explained:That seems to me to be a statement that Internet Theologian had no intent to blaspheme but was using sarcasm, in the form of what he calls "figurative language," in order to drive home his point. He goes on to say: That too seems to support Internet Theologians contention the comment was not intended to be taken seriously.

So, here is my ruling. DHK misunderstood Internet Theologian's sarcasm to be a genuine blasphemy. In that he was in error. After being corrected he ought to have offered an apology for his failure to understand the intent of the post. So far he has not done so.

But on the other hand Internet Theologian might consider not taking himself so seriously. Be willing to overlook such incidents in the interest of peace between our brothers and sisters in Christ.

So, DHK, the ball is in your court. Offer the right hand of fellowship to Internet Theologian and let this go.

Internet Theologian, accept the right hand of fellowship from DHK and let this go.

I will wait 4 hours. At midnight Texas time I will close this thread. If anyone wants to continue a cordial discussion of the OP please feel free to open a new thread.

The Great And Powerful Wizard Of Oz Has Spoken! (Meant in jest. Not to be taken as a claim of wizzardly power or participation in occult practices.) Wink

TC

In this post you are trying to be a peacemaker, and bridge the gap between DHK and IT.
That would be commendable except for one thing.
There are more than a dozen of us who have been on the other side of the keyboard when DHK does his sinful lying, deleting of posts, editing of posts, and bearing false witness. We have complained dozens of times about it.
To categorize this as whining and childish is not correct.

This is the result of ongoing bad behavior by DHK for the last year or two that goes unchecked. You know this.
You can ask any of us....IT, SG, OLD Regular, Blessed wife318,RLBosley, Rippon can document post after post of this foul conduct.
To try and isolate any poster such as is going on now with IT, or SG, and try to make it morally equivalent is misguided.
There are many who have told me they do not post on any thread that he posts in because of his conduct.
You can see the frustration spill over when anyone of us gets isolated.
The pattern is DHK gets answered....it goes back and forth...it deteriorates to name calling, DHK asks his strawman questions...like;
Are you a RC? Did you get that from gnostics? Do you deny Jesus? etc. The person gets infractions from DHK.....lol.....one time I got a 3 point infraction for posting a full page of his lies and accusations in his own words.

So what you see here is the continued problem as none of theprevious persons would deal with his lies....if you want we could supply pages of his garbage for you to read...but do you want to get nauseous?
Ask any of the persons I mentioned and there are many more....The fact is if the problem is not addressed....it will continue on.
DHK knows most people do not like to read this ....much less take the time to re-read his foul posting.....The common denominator in the friction is our friend DHK...None of us are blameless...but the common denominator is our good friend.
Ask the others.....

 

[Iconoclast]

Your choice. But if you don't report posts that violate the forum rules you forfeit your complaining privileges.

We have reported them....to no avail,,,

 

[TCassidy]

TC

In this post you are trying to be a peacemaker, and bridge the gap between DHK and IT.
That would be commendable except for one thing.

Everything was going so well until the "except."

There are more than a dozen of us who have been on the other side of the keyboard when DHK does his sinful lying, deleting of posts, editing of posts, and bearing false witness. We have complained dozens of times about it.

Well, as most of you know I took a rather long hiatus from active administration of the Baptist Board while I fought a much more important battle. One for my very life. So I am not privy to much of what has happened in the past, but I can assure you that every post reported as violating forum rules will be taken seriously and investigated to determine if a violation occurred and the responsible party appropriately chastised.

To categorize this as whining and childish is not correct.

I wasn't aware I had, but if I did I tender my humblest apologies.

This is the result of ongoing bad behavior by DHK for the last year or two that goes unchecked. You know this.

As I stated above I have not been all that active for quite some time so I don't know, but I am certainly willing to find out.

You can ask any of us....IT, SG, OLD Regular, Blessed wife318,RLBosley, Rippon can document post after post of this foul conduct.

Again, I have no control over the past, but any post reported will be taken seriously and investigated.

To try and isolate any poster such as is going on now with IT, or SG, and try to make it morally equivalent is misguided.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. Have I tried to isolate anyone? And what do you mean by "morally equivalent?"

There are many who have told me they do not post on any thread that he posts in because of his conduct.

That's certainly one way to avoid the problem.

You can see the frustration spill over when anyone of us gets isolated.

Again, I am not sure how you are being isolated

The pattern is DHK gets answered....it goes back and forth...it deteriorates to name calling, DHK asks his strawman questions...like;
Are you a RC? Did you get that from gnostics? Do you deny Jesus? etc.

I have noticed that, but it is not entirely one sided.

The person gets infractions from DHK.....lol.....one time I got a 3 point infraction for posting a full page of his lies and accusations in his own words.

It may be necessary for the Admins/Mods to discuss this issue and perhaps discourage Admins/Mods from Moderating any threads in which they are personally active.

So what you see here is the continued problem as none of theprevious persons would deal with his lies....if you want we could supply pages of his garbage for you to read...but do you want to get nauseous?

Again, I have no control over the past, but I will take an active role in the future. And, no, I don't want to be nauseous. My chemo does that without any help.

Ask any of the persons I mentioned and there are many more....The fact is if the problem is not addressed....it will continue on.

I assure you all infractions will be addressed.

DHK knows most people do not like to read this ....much less take the time to re-read his foul posting.....The common denominator in the friction is our friend DHK...None of us are blameless...but the common denominator is our good friend.
Ask the others.....

Thank you for your concerns. I will do all I can do to keep the peace on the BB.

 

[Iconoclast]

Everything was going so well until the "except." Well, as most of you know I took a rather long hiatus from active administration of the Baptist Board while I fought a much more important battle. One for my very life. So I am not privy to much of what has happened in the past, but I can assure you that every post reported as violating forum rules will be taken seriously and investigated to determine if a violation occurred and the responsible party appropriately chastised. I wasn't aware I had, but if I did I tender my humblest apologies. As I stated above I have not been all that active for quite some time so I don't know, but I am certainly willing to find out. Again, I have no control over the past, but any post reported will be taken seriously and investigated.I'm not sure what you are talking about. Have I tried to isolate anyone? And what do you mean by "morally equivalent?" That's certainly one way to avoid the problem. Again, I am not sure how you are being isolated I have noticed that, but it is not entirely one sided. It may be necessary for the Admins/Mods to discuss this issue and perhaps discourage Admins/Mods from Moderating any threads in which they are personally active. Again, I have no control over the past, but I will take an active role in the future. And, no, I don't want to be nauseous. My chemo does that without any help. I assure you all infractions will be addressed.
Thank you for your concerns. I will do all I can do to keep the peace on the BB.

No...Thank you for your response. I believe you are sincere in this.

TC.....I would like to see the BB move forward and be a positive place of instruction

It may be necessary for the Admins/Mods to discuss this issue and perhaps discourage Admins/Mods from Moderating any threads in which they are personally active.

This might be helpful...yes. You will notice that no other Moderator conducts themselves in a way to need such as you suggest.

No one is holding you in any way responsible for the past.

DHK has as much right to post as anyone...no one says otherwise. We have no trouble refuting his posts. No one has an issue with that.

We had hoped that the new administration would see it and help.

 

[TCassidy]

We had hoped that the new administration would see it and help.

He has his hands full right now. Give him some time to get settled in. He is a good man and he will do right by the forum.

 

[DHK]

So, here is my ruling. DHK misunderstood Internet Theologian's sarcasm to be a genuine blasphemy. In that he was in error. After being corrected he ought to have offered an apology for his failure to understand the intent of the post. So far he has not done so.

But on the other hand Internet Theologian might consider not taking himself so seriously. Be willing to overlook such incidents in the interest of peace between our brothers and sisters in Christ.

So, DHK, the ball is in your court. Offer the right hand of fellowship to Internet Theologian and let this go.

Internet Theologian, accept the right hand of fellowship from DHK and let this go.

I have been willing to let this go a long time ago.
Yes, I said I was a literalist, and took the statement literally, not recognizing the sarcasm.
I regret that my post has offended you (IT). I trust we can move on.

 

[TCassidy]

This thread is now closed.