SavedByGrace
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America was founded by the Puritan Pilgrim Fathers from here in England! Who were born-again Christians
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The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers.......
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America was founded by the Puritan Pilgrim Fathers from here in England! Who were born-again Christians
You left out the Quakers of Pennsylvania and the Baptists of Rhode Island.
CalTech
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Greetings,
They did NOT establish the Constitution, Bill of Rights & the Declaration of Independence did they?
Did I say anything about the Puritan's? NO......stay to the subject at hand.....by the way the "Puritan's" were a tyrannical group that killed a King, through the fleshly and unscriptural leading by Cromwell. Also let us not forget thier unholy and ungodly graceless handling of the Salem Witch trials. Another unscriptural handling of sinner's......so I am not a supporter of the "Puritan's". I've done much research on the matter through the years, and have wrote about it........
The Lord bless you and open your eyes to the truth, and I pray He helps you to see the delusion's you believe in.
CalTech
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Greetings,
The Quaker's were not a group I would class with true born-again believer's....they had some very weird mystical belief's. And they also had nothing to do with the Masonic establishing of the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the Declaration of Independence.
The Lord bless you.
Lodic
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Disclaimer - I did not watch the "Hidden Faith" video. Having said that, I wanted to point out that David Barton, founder of "Wallbuilders", has a couple of excellent video series where he teaches about the faith of our founding fathers. They are "The American Heritage Series" and "Building on the American Heritage Series". Barton's website is filled with lots of interesting and educational material which prove the United States was indeed founded upon Christ. The website is WallBuilders And David Barton.
CalTech
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Greetings,
Yes, I know about Mr. David Barton, and I did some research on this man. Did you know he received a "Bacholor of Arts Degree in Religious Education" from the Apostate and Masonic influenced Oral Roberts University? Did you also know he was praised by the likes of the Masonic controlled 700 Club Pat Robertson, TBN networt another hyper-faith organization with Masonic ties, also he appeared on "Kenneth Copeland's "Believer's Voice of Victory" program, ALL "charismatic influenced organizations, ALL heretic's.
He also has ties with the Apostate Calvary Chapel organization, and he is very chummy with Glen Beck, who is a Latter Day Saint's Mormon believer, which was founded by Joseph Smith, who was a Mason. Also he is a supporter of the Ecumencial movement.
So should we trust a man, who is surrounded by such Masonic influenced ministries? I do not think so, the Lord's Word instructs us NOT to trust anyone who does NOT present or support the One True Doctrine as established by the Lord Jesus Christ and His Apostles!
David Barton does not stand for the truth, he is supporting the Masonic agenda's, he is also supporting the Masonic Protocol's, by NOT providing All the truth of what those men truly stood for. You can find all this info here:
David Barton (author) - Wikipedia
The Lord bless you.
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SavedByGrace
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sure, but these are well after the "Pilgrim Fathers"
CalTech
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Greetings,
I would suggest you watch the video's, so that you can know the truth. By not doing so only reveals to me that you do not truly care, but will promote the Apostate David Barton.
Very sad.......
Lodic
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David Barton was a guest speaker many times at a church I used to attend in the Dallas area. I've met him several times, and have always been very positively impressed with him. Yes, I knew that Barton got his degree from ORU. No problem. I don't pronounce Barton guilty by association by his friendship with Glen Beck. So what if they are friends? I listen to Glen Beck on the radio pretty often - not for religious instruction, but for his political commentary. It's not as if Beck has gotten Barton to become a Mormon. I discount your criticism of TBN and Copeland as well. You are pretty quick to accuse charismatic organizations as heretical.
The main point about Barton is his source material is accurate and trustworthy. I completely trust Barton as a historian and as a man of God. I'm not really sure what you mean that Barton supports the Ecumenical movement. Please elaborate.
The Quakers yes. But the Baptists of Rhode Island and Providence Plantation were contemporaries of the Puritans.
Lodic
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I don't place much stock in your views or opinions, so I will not bother watching your video. Especially since you have such a negative view of David Barton, a man of God whom I highly regard.
SavedByGrace
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Thomas Helwys founded the first Baptist Church in England in 1612.
The first Baptist Church in America was established by Roger Williams, Puritan minister, in 1638, who arrived in America in from England, in 1631
The Mayflower, with the Pligrims, arrived in New England, from Old England, on November 11, 1620, 11 years earlier.
CalTech
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Greetings,
Well all I can say is.......... unbelievable........
I am glad that I do not follow any of your unbiblical standing, and your ignorance to and for the Truth of Christ and His Apostles.
Please, you know what I mean by him supporting the Ecumenical movement, I shall not converse further with those who play word games.
Good bye.
CalTech
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CalTech
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Greetings,
Start your own thread. This is about the Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers, and nothing more.
Thank you.
CalTech
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Greetings,
I appreciate this info, however let us not get off the OP topic, which is a bad habit amongst the many at this chat.
Thank you....
It's thread drift. Get used to it. I know one discussion group where they say all threads end up talking about booomenstuff. Folks are discussing the faith of the Founding Fathers.
As to Baptists and the Puritans, please see Obadiah Holmes - Wikipedia
As to Baptists and the Puritans, please see Obadiah Holmes - Wikipedia
CalTech
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Greetings,
Thank you for the "info", but I remember being corrected once to start a new thread, and not to get off track......
The double standard here is just so unChrist like.....which is very sad indeed. I started this thread regarding the Hidden Masonic Faith of the Founding Fathers.
The Lord bless you....
The problem here is there is more to the matter than the faith or lack thereof the founding Fathers. Many of us are looking at the Faith present in much of the rest of the Continental cause.
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