The Holy Spirit and Christ

[37818]

γὰρ ἐν αὐτῇ γεννηθὲν ἐκ πνεύματός ἐστιν ἁγίου From Matt 1:20 for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.

Did he not have the Holy Spirit from birth. Yet that person was going to die. The very reason I ask; Is Matt 3:15-17 chronological prophetic?

Jesus died. Jesus said the moment before his death. Luke 23:46 YLT and having cried with a loud voice, Jesus said, 'Father, to Thy hands I commit my spirit;' and these things having said, he breathed forth the spirit.

because also Christ once for sin did suffer -- righteous for unrighteous -- that he might lead us to God, having been put to death indeed, in the flesh, and having been made alive in the spirit, 1 Peter 3:18 YLT
and if the Spirit of Him who did raise up Jesus out of the dead doth dwell in you, He who did raise up the Christ out of the dead shall quicken also your dying bodies, through His Spirit dwelling in you. Romans 8:11 YLT
God hath in full completed this to us their children, having raised up Jesus, as also in the second Psalm it hath been written, My Son thou art -- I to-day have begotten thee. Acts 13:33 YLT

'This Jesus did God raise up, of which we are all witnesses; at the right hand then of God having been exalted -- also the promise of the Holy Spirit having received from the Father -- Acts 2:32,33

and this he said of the Spirit, which those believing in him were about to receive; for not yet was the Holy Spirit, because Jesus was not yet glorified. John 7:35 YLT 'This Jesus did God raise up, of which we are all witnesses; at the right hand then of God having been exalted -- also the promise of the Holy Spirit having received from the Father -- he was shedding forth this, which now ye see and hear; Acts 2:32,33 YLT

Is water baptism prophetic?

But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with:
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

I had given the following repaly:

It can be so interpreted. In Luke 12:50 that baptism is His death. Our water baptism is into His death, symbolizes His burial and resurrection, Romans 6:3-4.

 

[tyndale1946]

Exactly what I attempted to communicate in post 16 though admittedly very poorly.

Our Lord's life was a demonstration for the benefit of others, not ourselves.

The same can actually be said about believer's baptism. It ultimately others by our own declaration of a change that has already taken place.

That's OK my brother, you're allowed only one slip... Brother Glen

 

[Yeshua1]

OK. But that does not explain the reason for the Holy Spirit's need for making His appearance in that way and at that time. I have John 1:3 and Genesis 1:2 in mind, along with John 1:2 and John 1:14, the Son of God changing to become fully human, without ceasing being God, Genesis 1:1 and John 1:1-3, Hebrews 1:2-3, John 1:9-10.

Was the coming out of the Holy Trinity...

 

[37818]

Was the coming out of the Holy Trinity...

Huh? The Son of God never ceased being God. His incarnation was only change how He was with God. John 1:2; John 17:5.

 

[Yeshua1]

Huh? The Son of God never ceased being God. His incarnation was only change how He was with God. John 1:2; John 17:5.

Yes, but my point was that at the water baptism of Jesus, all three of Them were active on display.