The Huns on the March Again

[poncho]

Top Russia Expert: Ukraine Joining Nato Would Provoke Nuclear War

U.S and NATO Responsible for Ukraine Crisis … and West Has Agreed to Cover Up Details About Shoot Down of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17

Stephen Cohen is one of America’s top experts on Russia. Cohen is professor emeritus of Russian studies and politics at New York University and Princeton University, and the author of a number of books on Russia and the Soviet Union.

Cohen says that the West is mainly to blame for the crisis in Ukraine:

This is a horrific, tragic, completely unnecessary war in eastern Ukraine. In my own judgment, we have contributed mightily to this tragedy. I would say that historians one day will look back and say that America has blood on its hands. Three thousand people have died, most of them civilians who couldn’t move quickly. That’s women with small children, older women. A million refugees.

Cohen joins other American experts on Russia – such as former U.S. ambassador to the Soviet Union, Jack Matlock – in this assessment.

Cohen also says that if Ukraine joins NATO, it will lead to nuclear war:

[Intervviewer:] The possibility of Ukraine in NATO and what that means and what—

STEPHEN COHEN: Nuclear war.

[Interviewer:] Explain.

Read More At: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/top-russia-expert-ukraine-joins-nato-will-cause-nuclear-war.html

 

[Melanie]

I have been following this since I develop a love affair with Georgia ( unrequited sadly) , and the Russians are nibbling away in many areas, not to mention exterminating Circassian people ( have I spelt that right?) . This beautiful part of the world has been always fertilised with blood being the meeting point of East and West, Christianity and Islam. Russia and Turkey are traditional enemies.

I think I would rather cuddle up with a cobra than with Mr. Putin who appears to have a colossal ego, and a yearning for the so called glory of Soviet Russia ( empire if you prefer) .

 

[poncho]

I have been following this since I develop a love affair with Georgia ( unrequited sadly) , and the Russians are nibbling away in many areas, not to mention exterminating Circassian people ( have I spelt that right?) . This beautiful part of the world has been always fertilised with blood being the meeting point of East and West, Christianity and Islam. Russia and Turkey are traditional enemies.

I think I would rather cuddle up with a cobra than with Mr. Putin who appears to have a colossal ego, and a yearning for the so called glory of Soviet Russia ( empire if you prefer) .

Is Russia surrounding us with missile bases and destabilizing countries on our borders like Canada and Mexico? Is Russia putting missile bases in Cuba?

Did Russia spend 5 billion American tax payer dollars to back a violent coup in Ukraine? The people of Crimea voted by a vast margin to join Russia. Putin didn't "seize" it. The people voted to join Russia.

Isn't that what "democracy" is? People voting for what they feel is best for them? Washington only sanctions "democracy" when it serves Washington and Wall Street. If the people of other nations vote against Washington and Wall Street it's called illegitimate. If a violent coup takes place and the coup government goes Washington's way it's called a legitimate govt but you can bet your boots if it went against Washington and Wall Street we'd be hearing a different story. John McCain wouldn't be having his picture taken with them. He'd be calling for them to be bombed.

 

[church mouse guy]

I have been following this since I develop a love affair with Georgia ( unrequited sadly) , and the Russians are nibbling away in many areas, not to mention exterminating Circassian people ( have I spelt that right?) . This beautiful part of the world has been always fertilised with blood being the meeting point of East and West, Christianity and Islam. Russia and Turkey are traditional enemies.

I think I would rather cuddle up with a cobra than with Mr. Putin who appears to have a colossal ego, and a yearning for the so called glory of Soviet Russia ( empire if you prefer) .

Thank you for that refreshing breath of fresh air!

 

[poncho]

Thank you for that refreshing breath of fresh air!

You found that evidence yet? No? How about answering my questions then?

Is Russia surrounding us with missile bases and destabilizing countries on our borders like Canada and Mexico? Is Russia putting missile bases in Cuba?

Did Russia spend 5 billion American tax payer dollars to back a violent coup in Ukraine? The people of Crimea voted by a vast margin to join Russia. Putin didn't "seize" it. The people voted to join Russia.

Isn't that what "democracy" is?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC3tINgWfQE

 

[poncho]

CMG has gone silent again.

Must be still looking for that evidence of a "Russian invasion".

Know why you can't find it CMG? It's not there. You've been Neoconned again.

 

[church mouse guy]

Code Pink Beret for men and women.

 

[poncho]

Your google image doesn't answer my questions or provide evidence to back up your allegations.

So far you have failed to provide any credible evidence to back up your allegations in 9 pages of this thread.

You have one more page. Try to fill it with credible evidence instead of just repeating the same old "guilt by association" fallacy.

 

[church mouse guy]

I don't use Google but I suspect that you do.

 

[poncho]

I don't use Google but I suspect that you do.

Is this your excuse for not providing any credible evidence to support your allegations?

 

[church mouse guy]

Is this your excuse for not providing any credible evidence to support your allegations?

What is your excuse for saying that I used Google without any evidence?

Even the Russians are not denying that they are in Ukraine so I wonder what your point is?

 

[poncho]

What is your excuse for saying that I used Google without any evidence?

Even the Russians are not denying that they are in Ukraine so I wonder what your point is?

I have no excuse. You had to come up with all your "guilt by association" images somewhere. I guessed google. I guessed wrong.

And now you're attempting to make a big deal of nothing to draw people's attention away from the fact you can't back up your claims with credible evidence.

You make alot of claims but you don't back them up with anything other than more claims and over used fallacies.

The point is you read some headlines and reacted to them without thinking then resorted to trickery to try to salvage your "Baptist Board credibility" after I pointed out your lack of evidence.

Russians have always been in Ukraine. They haven't just up and suddenly "invaded" it as you would have us believe. And beyond that there wouldn't be any need for the Russians to react as you "claim" they have if Washington hadn't spent 5 billion + American tax payer dollars to support (agitate) a violent bloody coup that has resulted in the death of hundreds maybe even thousands of people in an otherwise peaceful and sovereign nation that threatened us in no way.

Putin may indeed have blood on his hands but it's a drop compared to the blood Washington has on it's hands because of it's interventionist "regime change" policy that supports the worst of the worst radicals as "allies" and proxy armies.

Anybody besides me notice CMG never bothered to answer my questions?

Wonder why?

 

[church mouse guy]

You should not go around saying that people use Google--it makes them sound like a certain sort of person.

 

[poncho]

You should not go around saying that people use Google--it makes them sound like a certain sort of person.

You shouldn't go around repeating allegations you can't back up with evidence and resorting to the use of fallacies to hide the lack there of. It shows you are a certain kind of person.

 

[church mouse guy]

You shouldn't go around repeating allegations you can't back up with evidence and resorting to the use of fallacies to hide the lack there of. It shows you are a certain kind of person.

You are the only one in the world who does not think that the Huns are on the march again.

 

[poncho]

That's incorrect.

Only people who have repeatedly fallen for Washington and the media's false reports would even think that.

Where did all your friends go? They kind of left you hanging after I asked for evidence to back your claims. They uh, skedaddled right on out of here quick as they could.

Here's another false report for ya.

US envoy to Ukraine caught posting fake images on Twitter

US ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt has been caught posting unverified images on his Twitter feed Monday, as he was showing off the ongoing US-Kiev military exercises in Ukraine.

Ambassador Pyatt first uploaded a picture of US and Ukrainian troops, which he said was taken in the morning at the military exercises in western Ukraine. Internet users quickly pointed out that the photo had already been published as early as July 31.

Read More At: http://rt.com/news/187992-ukraine-drills-pyatt-fail/

If your claim is true then where's all the evidence CMG?

P.S. Fear mongering propaganda, false reports and fallacies are not evidence.

 

[church mouse guy]

No one backs you up, Poncho. People feel sorry for those under the rule of Putin.

 

[poncho]

No one backs you up, Poncho. People feel sorry for those under the rule of Putin.

I feel sorry for you. Witnessing you being forced to resort to using the same old fallacy time and again to cover up your lack of evidence is really sad. Not! :laugh:

 

[church mouse guy]

Tell us, Poncho, would you yourself like to live in Russia?

 

[poncho]

Tell us, Poncho, would you yourself like to live in Russia?

Really? The same old fallacy again? :laugh:

Admit you were neconned again and learn from it, like men do.