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The Impeachment Case Against Trump is getting stronger

church mouse guy

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I hope they do. Impeachment "just because" is political suicide. He'll never be convicted and sail to reelection.

If they win the House in 2018, then it would not be political suicide to impeach Trump--they could say that they had a mandate. Remember that it is not only the Dems who are vehemently opposed to Trump but also the GOP "Never Trump" bunch who are de facto Democrats now.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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If they win the House in 2018, then it would not be political suicide to impeach Trump--they could say that they had a mandate. Remember that it is not only the Dems who are vehemently opposed to Trump but also the GOP "Never Trump" bunch who are de facto Democrats now.
Are “Never Trump” voters still involved in the GOP? I should of thought they left the party months ago.
 

FollowTheWay

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Might want to listen to the hearings. The Chairman dressed down the FBI director and told him that he would turn over all documents and answer all questions pertaining to the FISA surveillance of Trump and his ttransition team.
The director was accused of FBI using false information to obtain the FISA warrants. The director did not deny it, he said it was classified. The Chairman told him the committee was entitled to all classified information regarding any judiciary process, and then said the FBI had better produce it.
C. Wray of course was nominated by Trump to become the FBI Director to fill the position vacated by Trump's firing of Dir. Comey.

On June 7, 2017, President Donald Trump announced his intention to nominate Wray to be the next Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, replacing James Comey, who was fired by Trump on May 9, 2017.[23] Trump interviewed Wray for the vacant FBI Director job on May 30, 2017, according to Press Secretary Sean Spicer.[12] Wray's Senate confirmation hearing commenced on July 12, 2017.[24] Among other testimony, when asked if he believed that the investigation into Russian election interference and possible links to Trump's campaign is a "witch hunt", he stated that he did not.[24]

I hope that he provides the requested information to the Congress to support what is very much an ongoing, significant look at the Trump administration's dealing with Russia during and after the campaign. Of course, Trump keeps saying that it's a witch hunt and has no merit. Richard Nixon said the same thing until it became obvious that he would be proven guilty and resigned.
 

Reynolds

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C. Wray of course was nominated by Trump to become the FBI Director to fill the position vacated by Trump's firing of Dir. Comey.

On June 7, 2017, President Donald Trump announced his intention to nominate Wray to be the next Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, replacing James Comey, who was fired by Trump on May 9, 2017.[23] Trump interviewed Wray for the vacant FBI Director job on May 30, 2017, according to Press Secretary Sean Spicer.[12] Wray's Senate confirmation hearing commenced on July 12, 2017.[24] Among other testimony, when asked if he believed that the investigation into Russian election interference and possible links to Trump's campaign is a "witch hunt", he stated that he did not.[24]

I hope that he provides the requested information to the Congress to support what is very much an ongoing, significant look at the Trump administration's dealing with Russia during and after the campaign. Of course, Trump keeps saying that it's a witch hunt and has no merit. Richard Nixon said the same thing until it became obvious that he would be proven guilty and resigned.
Old news. Go to the judiciary hearings held last week.
The deep state is being exposed.
 

FollowTheWay

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Old news. Go to the judiciary hearings held last week.
The deep state is being exposed.
I don't think so although I do believe in the deep state. It was the primary driver behind 9/11. It is my belief the CIA is more complicit than the FBI because they cooperated with the very inadequate investigation of 9/11 and the CIA did not. On the other hand, I trace the Deep State back to the assassination of JFK and believe the FBI was involved in that. Do you know there was a second Congressional investigation of the JFK assassination after the Warren Commission and the bottom line is "it is very likely there was another gunman (gunmen) involved? The deep state was also responsible for the "Gulf of Tonkin" incident which never happened and led to Johnson's ramp up of the Vietnam War.

I haven't seen Trump do anything to get at the real deep state. In fact he blocked the release of a large number of documents about the JFK assassination which were scheduled to be released this year. The reason given was the Security agencies needed more time to look at the ramifications of releasing that information. They've only had over 50 years to examine them why are they really being withheld from the American people?
 
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Reynolds

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I don't think so although I do believe in the deep state. It was the primary driver behind 9/11. It is my belief the CIA is more complicit than the FBI because they cooperated with the very inadequate investigation of 9/11 and the CIA did not. On the other hand, I trace the Deep State back to the assassination of JFK and believe the FBI was involved in that. Do you know there was a second Congressional investigation of the JFK assassination after the Warren Commission and the bottom line is "it is very likely there was another gunman (gunmen) involved? The deep state was also responsible for the "Gulf of Tonkin" incident which never happened and led to Johnson's ramp up of the Vietnam War.

I haven't seen Trump do anything to get at the real deep state. In fact he blocked the release of a large number of documents about the JFK assassination which were scheduled to be released this year. The reason given was the Security agencies needed more time to look at the ramifications of releasing that information. They've only had over 50 years to examine them why are they really being withheld from the American people?
The second investigation used what has now been objectively proven to be true faulty auditory and ballistic analysis.
 

FollowTheWay

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The second investigation used what has now been objectively proven to be true faulty auditory and ballistic analysis.
It actually was obviously true to me at the time mainly because of the Zapruder video and the "magic bullet" theory.
 

Yeshua1

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Nothing there. She was interrogated 10 times about the emails and they found nothing important. The u2 deal has been blown way out of context. If you want to see an important email scandal which was simply forgotten look at the GW Bush administration's carrying of millions of emails over a private RNC server.
The former FBI director admitted on his press conference that she did do things that were very wrong on her email server, and ONLY got spared being indited due to the FBI deciding to change the definition of what was considered to be Indifference to actual intent!
 

church mouse guy

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The Democrats have not one shred of evidence that Trump did anything wrong during his campaign. We do know that the Democrat National Committee paid some 14 1/2 million dollars for a pornographic dossier and then the FBI used that as evidence knowing full well where it came from. Comey is weird.
 

FollowTheWay

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The Democrats have not one shred of evidence that Trump did anything wrong during his campaign. We do know that the Democrat National Committee paid some 14 1/2 million dollars for a pornographic dossier and then the FBI used that as evidence knowing full well where it came from. Comey is weird.
It's not the Democrats that are collecting and reviewing the evidence. It's Independent Counsel Mueller.
 

church mouse guy

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It's not the Democrats that are collecting and reviewing the evidence. It's Independent Counsel Mueller.

That is a distinction without a difference. The Democrats do not have the honor to call this witch hunt off. The Democrats are the ones who ordered and purchased the fake dossier and then tried to use their own fake evidence as the basis of a crime. As Greg Gutfeld said, no more hanky panky for Senator Franky.
 

Revmitchell

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The democrats are delusional. They think this investigation will reveal their wishful thinking and they think they will win big in 2018. They will be wrong on both.
 

FollowTheWay

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That is a distinction without a difference. The Democrats do not have the honor to call this witch hunt off. The Democrats are the ones who ordered and purchased the fake dossier and then tried to use their own fake evidence as the basis of a crime. As Greg Gutfeld said, no more hanky panky for Senator Franky.
There is substance in this investigation. You and trump would like for it to go away but it won't. This doesn't compare to the endless investigations of the Clintons especially Hillary. Those were unjustifiable witch hunts without any merit.
 

church mouse guy

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There is substance in this investigation. You and trump would like for it to go away but it won't. This doesn't compare to the endless investigations of the Clintons especially Hillary. Those were unjustifiable witch hunts without any merit.

I believe in fair play but Trump has the ability to fire the Special Prosecutor if Sessions does not do it so I am not personally involved other than to note that the FBI is crooked, also, and maybe should be abolished. Hillary is a crook and a congenital liar but I do not think it is worth investigating her because she is not too smart and left a clear trail. She is old and sick now and always drinking so I think that she and her sexual predator husband should just fade away.

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FollowTheWay

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That is a distinction without a difference. The Democrats do not have the honor to call this witch hunt off. The Democrats are the ones who ordered and purchased the fake dossier and then tried to use their own fake evidence as the basis of a crime. As Greg Gutfeld said, no more hanky panky for Senator Franky.
Here's reality

Mueller was appointed by a Republican. Now tell me about the Democratic investigation of Trump.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department appointed Robert S. Mueller III, a former F.B.I. director, as special counsel on Wednesday to oversee the investigation into ties between President Trump’s campaign and Russian officials, dramatically raising the legal and political stakes in an affair that has threatened to engulf Mr. Trump’s four-month-old presidency.

The decision by the deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, came after a cascade of damaging developments for Mr. Trump in recent days, including his abrupt dismissal of the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, and the subsequent disclosure that Mr. Trump asked Mr. Comey to drop the investigation of his former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn.

Judicial nomination
In 2007, President George W. Bush nominated Rosenstein to a seat on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit. Rosenstein was a Maryland resident at the time. Barbara Mikulski and new Democratic Maryland senator, Ben Cardin, blocked Rosenstein's confirmation, stating that he did not have strong enough Maryland legal ties,[22] and due to this Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Patrick Leahy did not schedule a hearing on Rosenstein during the 110th Congress and the nomination lapsed. Andre M. Davis later was renominated to the same seat and confirmed by the Senate in 2009.

Deputy Attorney General of the United States


Rosenstein being sworn in as Deputy Attorney General


Appointment of Special Counsel to Investigate Russian Interference with the 2016 Presidential Election and Related Matters
President Donald Trump nominated Rosenstein to serve as Deputy Attorney General for the United States Department of Justice on January 13, 2017.[23] He was one of the 46 United States Attorneys ordered on March 10, 2017 to resign by Attorney General Jeff Sessions; Trump declined his resignation.[24] Rosenstein was confirmed by the Senate on April 25, 2017 by a vote of 94-6.[25][26]
 
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