The KJV: the word of God or the very wordS of God?

I also have absolute faith in the Word of God.

Moderator note: "pharisecal endeavors" is considered an attack on other posters. You are new so I will not delete it this time

 

Scripture exhorts us to have "faith" in Christ, etc. Scripture does not exhort us to have "faith" in the KJV, let alone exclusively. Should one have "faith" in the exclusive perfection of the NIV, or Geneva, or whatever, and then claim that those that don't are busy with pharisecal endeavors? No.

Have faith in what scripture tells you to. Making doctrines out of non-Biblical faiths is a BIG TIME NO-NO.

 

i'm sorry i wasted everyone's time. i had thought that a discussion about the Word of God could also include emotion and matters of faith rather than simple chronology. I didn't forsee the limitations of this kind of forum.
God Bless

 

I do not believe any translation or existing manuscript is word for word perfect and I DO believe that God preserved His "Word" perfectly.

The meaning of one's word can be expressed with more than one set of words.

 

Emotion and faith based on things not found in the Bible are not a sound basis for doctrine.

 

yeah well neither is your chronological arguments either buddy.

 

BTW what textbooks did you get all your arguments from?

 

here was your original claim:

which you never backed up with anything more than emotion .

 

The basis for saving faith is solidly founded and repeated in the Bible. The basis for faith in KJVOnlyism is found nowhere in the Bible.

I am sorry that there seems to be a feeding frenzy on you. You came in new and spouting errors that have been clearly and completely refuted here. You have become the mouse in a room full of hungry cats.

 

I have faith that the Geneva is/was the preserved word of God, and that the KJV differed from it. Now what do you do with that?

 

Then please name the English Bible that it was preserved in. If He did, then where is it?

 

No textbooks my friend, from my study of God's Word. Most of what you call "textbook arguements" have been simple questions which you choose not to answer. Instead, you have questioned the faith of others because they don't agree with you.

 

don't flatter yourself natters, maybe i'm not great at debate, but guess what that don't mean you're right. <personal attack deleted>

[ March 09, 2005, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: C4K ]

 

where in God's word does it talk about the different translations C4K? Huh? You used that against me, now step up and tell me the same.

 

It doesn't and that is my point completely.

No matter how hard I study it I find nothing on English translations on which to base a doctrine.

Therefore I won't base my faith on a man-made doctrine.

 

You don't have to be great at debate, but you should at least be able to acknowledge a valid point when it is made, let alone answer simple questions.

God bless you, Broken Clay. I'll step out of this discussion for now.

 

Christ saved me because He loved me. If you have faith in the Bible, then that is VERY clear.

Here is the problem with a simple statement of "faith". Something had to BRING you to that faith. What was it?

Assume that I were a non-Christian (agnostic, or whatever).

How do YOU convince me that YOUR faith is any better than the Mormon missionary who comes to my door with a burning bossom about the Book of Mormon?

Why should I believe your faith over the Arab who thinks he will get 72 virgins if he blows himself up (now THAT'S faith)?

Is the Bible your final authority? If it is, show me where it says that the KJV will be the perfect translation? We have had the Geneva longer than the KJV, so what makes you think it is the KJV?

If you cannot answer these questions we cannot carry on a civil debate. That is the problem with your argument, around and around the May-pole we go.

 

So, even according to you, Broken Clay, we didn't have a jot-and-tittle perfect Bible from 1611 until the Oxford version of the KJV in 1769?

God could inspire the translators, but not the printers?

Isn't it YOU who is limiting God's power?

 

Spoudazo;
I know Bro. Gipp. Can you provide a DIRECT quote on that one?

In HIS service;
Jim