Lol
some on here hate the thought of the Lords Day
you’re gonna get it now!!
great post
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Lol
some on here hate the thought of the Lords Day
you’re gonna get it now!!
great post
SavedByGrace
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not the Sabbath Day!
No....The Lords day...
We are not lawless, the 10 commandments are still binding on all men.
At the judgment all men ever born will be responsible to keep that law perfectly.
Someone kept it for the elect, I trust Him, and seek to obey His commandments.
George Antonios
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Tell that to Ezekiel and Paul who both prophesied of the return of the law and sacrifices.
37818
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Paul did no such thing. Now the Ezekiel prophecy needs to be looked at.
SavedByGrace
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Yes, but this is not the Seventh Day, which is part of the Ten Commandments. Nine of the Ten Commandments are for Christians to follow, as Fourth Commendment is between God and the Children of Israel only. Christians Worship on the First Day of the week, which is Sunday, because it is the Day that Jesus Rose from the dead, and the Holy Spirit was poured out on the Day of Pentecost, and when the Church was founded. This is The Lord's Day
George Antonios
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Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which ARE a shadow of things TO COME; but the body is of Christ.
Evidently, Paul was familiar with Ezekiel 40-48, which he references (not to mention Zechariah).
KenH
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"DEAD TO THE LAW BY THE BODY OF CHRIST
"Know ye not, brethren (for I speak to them that know the law), how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead she is loosed from the law of her husband, so then if while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband be dead she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress though she be married to another man. Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ, that ye should be married to another, even to Him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God." (Rom. 7:1-4).
If Paul has any meaning I think it amounts to this, that the law has the same dominion over the sinner, that expects life or help from it by his own obedience to the rules of it, as the husband has over his wife by the law of marriage; and the law communicates bondage to the soul; which the soul naturally genders to, until the soul be pregnant with horror, despair, and misery, just as a man communicates seed to a wife, who brings forth a still-born or dead child, which is the worst of labours without any heir to satisfy the husband, as Paul aims to prove. "For, when we were in the flesh, the motions of sin, which: were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death, Rom. 7:5. But when God tells the poor sinner, who is so fond of being Moses' disciple, that "Moses my servant is dead;" and the soul is quickened to feel and enlightened to see that the law is a killing letter, the law of death, and ministration of condemnation; and that the soul can bring forth no fruit to God under its gendering bondage, no fruit but fruit unto death or dead works; the soul seeing a dead husband, and a dead law, that cannot give life, the soul is loosed from that law; nor is it an adulteress, nor an Antinomian, though it be married to another man. For that law has no more power over such a soul than the corpse of Anna's husband had over her, who had been a widow upwards of forty years, and had lived with an husband but seven years from her virginity, and was then waiting to be married to the consolation of Israel. (Luke 2:36)
The way that the soul gets released from that law is by the body of Christ. The soul that sees that the law cursed the Savior as well as the sinner, and that the Lord died under the law; that it was the law of death to the Savior as well as to the sinner; and, finding Christ raised from the dead, it goes after him and unites with Him, and is begotten to a lively hope by His resurrection from the dead; and Christ formed in the soul the hope of glory is an incorruptible seed indeed, a precious fruit. Such are no adulteresses though they be married to another man. Nor do they deserve the name of licentious Antinomians, seeing the Holy Ghost affirmeth that this is done that they may bring forth fruit unto God, Rom. 7:4; namely, the fruits of the Spirit." - William Huntington
More at Bible Studies & Articles (rofgrace.com)
"Know ye not, brethren (for I speak to them that know the law), how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead she is loosed from the law of her husband, so then if while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband be dead she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress though she be married to another man. Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ, that ye should be married to another, even to Him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God." (Rom. 7:1-4).
If Paul has any meaning I think it amounts to this, that the law has the same dominion over the sinner, that expects life or help from it by his own obedience to the rules of it, as the husband has over his wife by the law of marriage; and the law communicates bondage to the soul; which the soul naturally genders to, until the soul be pregnant with horror, despair, and misery, just as a man communicates seed to a wife, who brings forth a still-born or dead child, which is the worst of labours without any heir to satisfy the husband, as Paul aims to prove. "For, when we were in the flesh, the motions of sin, which: were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death, Rom. 7:5. But when God tells the poor sinner, who is so fond of being Moses' disciple, that "Moses my servant is dead;" and the soul is quickened to feel and enlightened to see that the law is a killing letter, the law of death, and ministration of condemnation; and that the soul can bring forth no fruit to God under its gendering bondage, no fruit but fruit unto death or dead works; the soul seeing a dead husband, and a dead law, that cannot give life, the soul is loosed from that law; nor is it an adulteress, nor an Antinomian, though it be married to another man. For that law has no more power over such a soul than the corpse of Anna's husband had over her, who had been a widow upwards of forty years, and had lived with an husband but seven years from her virginity, and was then waiting to be married to the consolation of Israel. (Luke 2:36)
The way that the soul gets released from that law is by the body of Christ. The soul that sees that the law cursed the Savior as well as the sinner, and that the Lord died under the law; that it was the law of death to the Savior as well as to the sinner; and, finding Christ raised from the dead, it goes after him and unites with Him, and is begotten to a lively hope by His resurrection from the dead; and Christ formed in the soul the hope of glory is an incorruptible seed indeed, a precious fruit. Such are no adulteresses though they be married to another man. Nor do they deserve the name of licentious Antinomians, seeing the Holy Ghost affirmeth that this is done that they may bring forth fruit unto God, Rom. 7:4; namely, the fruits of the Spirit." - William Huntington
More at Bible Studies & Articles (rofgrace.com)
37818
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It would seem we have a different understanding here regarding what Paul meant.
SavedByGrace
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Jesus Christ ALONE is the Ultimate Sacrifice for ALL sins, and the Book of Hebrews tells us in much details, that the OT sacrificial law has ceased, as they were only a shadow of the reality in the Death of Jesus Christ. The OT ceremonial and sacrifical law is OVER, and will NEVER return. Anyone who says otherwise does not know their Bible! As there will not be a Third Temple! It is the New Covenant that is more important on this, which is Jesus Christ, and not the Old!
George Antonios
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Yeah ok.
SavedByGrace
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Isa.42:21
8 1/2 of the "Ten Commandments" are repeated for New Testament Christians. The sabbath day is not required. And in the second commandment, worshiping idols is still forbidden, and expounded to include "the good things of this world." But making any likeness of anything has no blanket No to it, as in Exodus 20. If it did, that would rule out photography, engineering drawing, computer icons,...
SavedByGrace
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verse 5 tells you what the Lord means, "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me"
George Antonios
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Typical response when you can't answer from the Bible
Yeah ok.
ok, we are down to 8.5, do I hear 7?
anybody for 7?
What about 8?
Any 8s?
come on somebody
you can vote here
I know you want to do it
come on 8
7 even better
You essentially repeated what I said.
But Yes or No: does that commandment in Exodus forbid making any likeness of anything?
SavedByGrace
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of anything that is in heaven, as in God and the angelic beings