hillclimber1 said:
Looks like the left is abetting our enemies on this very thread.
Which is worse I wonder...the left abetting them or the right recruiting, organizing, funding and arming them? Yeah, I know the left has funded and armed it's share of America's enemies (Clinton, Al Qeada, Kosovo) in the past too. But I imagine you were probably one of the people complaining the loudest about it then right? But now that it's "your side" doing it, it's either all cool now or you don't want to talk about it at all. Right?
Ever wonder where Al Qeada and the Taliban...America's "enemies" came from in the first place? The CIA helped recruit, organize, train and arm Al Qeada which was the name of the CIA database of foreign Arab "freedom fighters" in Afghanistan. The Taliban is the creation of a joint effort between the CIA and the Pakistani ISI. So I ask you again which is worse...abetting them or funding and arming them?
Still can't make up your mind which is worse? How about a mini history lesson? That might help...(or better yet
CLICK HERE and
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big history lesson)
Sheikh Abdullah Yusuf Azzam ran Maktab Khadamat al-Mujahidin al-Arab, the recruiting arm of the CIA-ISI operation against the Soviets in Afghanistan, responsible for organizing 35,000 Muslim radicals from 43 Islamic countries in the Middle East, North and East Africa, Central Asia and the Far East, as veteran Pakistani journalist Ahmed Rashid has noted. “Even conventional sources regard Maktab al-Khadamat (MAK) as a CIA and ISI front organization. Moreover, MAK served as the offices of the World Muslim League and the Muslim Brotherhood in the northern Pakistan city of Peshawar,”
I wrote in January, 2006. As I have explained elsewhere, Azzam’s connection to the Muslim Brotherhood is significant:
Azzam’s connection to the Muslim Brotherhood is a significant factor, considering the Muslim organization was long ago penetrated and made to jump through hoops for the sake of MI6 and later the CIA. “According to CIA agent Miles Copeland, the Americans began looking for a Muslim Billy Graham around 1955,” writes the Palestinian-born journalist and author Said K. Aburish. “When finding or creating a Muslim Billy Graham proved elusive, the CIA began to cooperate with the Muslim Brotherhood, the Muslim mass organization founded in Egypt but with followers throughout the Arab Middle East.” In 1957, the CIA and MI6 collaborated to use the Muslim Brotherhood in an effort to destabilize Syria and assassinate its nationalist leaders (see Jean Shaoul, CIA-MI6 planned to assassinate Syrian leaders in 1957), a plan following the successful CIA-instigated overthrow of the popular and democratically elected Iranian leader Mohammed Mossadegh by a few years.
Azzam was simply one of a number of CIA-ISI operatives and patsies:
As is often the case with useful but ultimately disposable Muslim fanatics, Sheikh Abdullah Azzam was assassinated on November 24, 1989 and Osama bin Laden took his place. Indeed… “al-Qaeda” may be considered an outgrowth of MAK—or more precisely, an heir apparent as engineered by the CIA, ISI, and Saudi intelligence. MAK had served its purpose as a recruiter and proselytizer of Wahhabi fanaticism in Afghanistan and after the Soviets were ejected the services of Azzam were no longer required (and he was likely considered a danger to the next phase—the spawning and unleashing of “al-Qaeda” in the Balkans and Chechnya.) <--(Clinton, Kosovo)
“MAK was a front for Pakistan’s CIA, the Inter-Service Intelligence Directorate. The ISI was the first recipient of the vast bulk of CIA and Saudi Arabian covert assistance for the Afghan contras. Bin Laden was one of three people who ran MAK. In 1989, he took overall charge of MAK,” writes
Norm Dixon, an indisputable fact admitted by
MSNBC in August, 1998, before everything changed, including history as recited by neocons. Hekmatyar, closely associated with bin Laden and Azzam, according to Asia Times, was “an ISI stooge and creation” (see above link).
SOURCE
The last word goes to Zbigniew Brzezinski: “What was more important in the world view of history? The Taliban or the fall of the Soviet Empire? A few stirred up Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War?”
SOURCE
Most of ya probably don't want to know this kinda stuff anyways so I'll let y'all get back to blaming the lefties for abetting our government's creations. Toodles. :wavey: