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The Libby Injustice

The Galatian

Active Member
Barbarian observes:
Nevertheless, if he lied, he committed a crime, and there will be consequences.

That's the way the law works.

Not necessarily.

Clinton comes to mind.

Clinton lied about his sex life under oath, and was disbarred. Could have been a lot worse, except that the Senate didn't think lying about sex constituted "high crimes and misdemeanors." Go figure.

Libby lied about official corruption at the highest level, apparently to protect his bosses. I figure that deserves at least a little time in the cooler.

But the jury and the judge will have the final say on that. As they should.
 

Baptist in Richmond

Active Member
The Galatian said:
Clinton lied about his sex life under oath, and was disbarred. Could have been a lot worse, except that the Senate didn't think lying about sex constituted "high crimes and misdemeanors." Go figure.

Libby lied about official corruption at the highest level, apparently to protect his bosses. I figure that deserves at least a little time in the cooler.

But the jury and the judge will have the final say on that. As they should.

That is what perplexes me, Galatian.
Not to take away from what Clinton did or what Libby allegedly did, why are there not charges against the despicable Bob Novak, and what he did on CNN after he wrote that article that started the whole ordeal? IMO, Novak is guilty of treason.

Regards, hope you are well,
BiR
 

The Galatian

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Novak is a republican apologist, and was trying to help the administration. The fact that he put an unknown number of CIA intelligence sources in danger thereby was apparently of little or no concern to him.

It's not quite treason, but it's disloyal and cowardly.
 

Baptist in Richmond

Active Member
The Galatian said:
Novak is a republican apologist, and was trying to help the administration. The fact that he put an unknown number of CIA intelligence sources in danger thereby was apparently of little or no concern to him.

It's not quite treason, but it's disloyal and cowardly.

He compromised a whole operation with his despicable behavior.

To quote former President George H. W. Bush:
"Even though I'm a tranquil guy now at this stage of my life, I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors."

https://www.odci.gov/cia/public_affairs/speeches/1999/bush_speech_042699.html

Regards to you and yours,
BiR
 

carpro

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Baptist in Richmond said:
That is what perplexes me, Galatian.
Not to take away from what Clinton did or what Libby allegedly did, why are there not charges against the despicable Bob Novak, and what he did on CNN after he wrote that article that started the whole ordeal? IMO, Novak is guilty of treason.

Regards, hope you are well,
BiR


Simple, really.

Novak broke no law. No one did in this entire Plame affair.

Libby is the only one accused and he's only accused of lying about a crime that never happened.
 

Pastor Larry

<b>Moderator</b>
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Libby lied about official corruption at the highest level
What was teh corruption? Turns out that apparently, the leak came from Richard Armitage, not the administration. And apparently, Fitzgerald knew that beforehand.

So why don't you comment on that Galatian?

It seems to me that the corruption is that Fitzgerald pursued an investigation in which he knew the outcome.
 

The Galatian

Active Member
The question remains: "Did Libby lie under oath, or did he not?"

If yes, he's guilty and needs some consequences. If not he's innocent.

The state of mind of others doesn't enter into it at all. He did it or he didn't do it. I'm pleased that Clinton was disbarred for lying under oath. Not because I hate him, but because he deserved it.

Libby, if he lied under oath, will also have to fact the consequences. That's the way it works, even if you personally approve of what he did.
 

The Galatian

Active Member
Yep. Everything else is irrelevant. Likewise, Clinton's sex life had nothing whatever to do with Whitewater, but he still lied under oath, even if the proseuter was exceeding his mandate. Still a crime.

If Libby lied under oath, he needs to face the consequences.
 

Pastor Larry

<b>Moderator</b>
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Galatian,

You said Libby lied about corruption at the highest level. What was the corruption at the highest level, given the fact that the "leak" came from Richard Armitage, and Fitzgerald knew that at the beginning?

Secondly, do you think it was proper for Fitzgerald to continue an investigation in which he already knew the answer? Did he bait Libby?
 

carpro

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Pastor Larry said:
Galatian,

You said Libby lied about corruption at the highest level. What was the corruption at the highest level, given the fact that the "leak" came from Richard Armitage, and Fitzgerald knew that at the beginning?

That was just Galation spin. It's normal.
 

Daisy

New Member
Pastor Larry said:
Galatian,

You said Libby lied about corruption at the highest level. What was the corruption at the highest level, given the fact that the "leak" came from Richard Armitage, and Fitzgerald knew that at the beginning?

Secondly, do you think it was proper for Fitzgerald to continue an investigation in which he already knew the answer? Did he bait Libby?
Why did the White House appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the leak if they already knew? Fitzgerald was appointed to do a job and he's done it with professionalism and discretion.

carpro said:
That was just Galation spin. It's normal.
Snark, snark.
 

Pastor Larry

<b>Moderator</b>
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Why did the White House appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the leak if they already knew?
I am not sure they did know. Do you know if they knew that Armitage was the leak? I think it entirely conceiveable that they did not know who the leak was and were geniunely concerned it was somebody in the building. I honestly don't know ... don't have any idea.

Fitzgerald was appointed to do a job and he's done it with professionalism and discretion.
I find it hard to say that investigating an issue that you already have an answer to is either professional or discreet. I just think that is wierd.
 
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