The Lord Looks Down & Shakes His Head

[dcorbett]

But you are not God; God does not give us a list of priorities for prayer requests. We should respect every prayer request. We have no cap on prayer requests at my church and we don't sit there all night and all day.

And what if God does want you to sit there all night and all day? Maybe it would be a good thing.

PS, I'm not your "dear."

I never said I was God. I hope sometime that you grow up, dear.

 

[paul wassona]

it's you who do not beleive in the bible, God says cast all your cares on Him, and you don't beleive it, you've been arguing against it, telling us plainly God doens't care enough to want to hear from us.

That's nowhere in no fashion true. It is a ficticious lie. If all our requests are equally important, then what if some one is bitter and wants to ask God to kill somebody? Is God just as caring for that request as if somebody else asks prayer for the salvation of another? NO! God isn't this mechanical little box you can program. God is far more discerning. He tells us to be anxious for nothing. Supplication cannot be for wishing somebody dead and be equally important.

 

[paul wassona]

The "you're not God" arguement is probably the most immature remark anyone can make in a debate. I'm beginning to wonder if some are even serious about prayer requests or are they just wanting to argue from a platform without good reason? "This is not church" is second only to the "you're not God" remark in that it too is just as immature.

 

[Mexdeaf]

Just more insults is all you have for me and I should grow up???? This way you can feel superior.

Paul,

I would like ONE quote where I have insulted you, please.

 

[Mexdeaf]

But Mexdeaf, You said, "This isn't a church. If it was I'd have to practice tertiary separation."

Have you considered, Mt 18:20, "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

I think the Lord could read this forum should he so desire? Don't you agree?

HAMel,

I was speaking TIC.

And God can do anything include hear prayers for animals in spite of those who would like to limit Him.

 

[Mexdeaf]

Never mind!

 

[donnA]

That's nowhere in no fashion true. It is a ficticious lie. If all our requests are equally important, then what if some one is bitter and wants to ask God to kill somebody? Is God just as caring for that request as if somebody else asks prayer for the salvation of another? NO! God isn't this mechanical little box you can program. God is far more discerning. He tells us to be anxious for nothing. Supplication cannot be for wishing somebody dead and be equally important.

your pushing it beyond scripture, as is your usual habit.
if you think God doesn't want to hear our prayers, go right ahead and don't pray, that you not the rest of us.
it must be pitiful living believing God doesn't care about our concerns

 

[paul wassona]

your pushing it beyond scripture, as is your usual habit.
if you think God doesn't want to hear our prayers, go right ahead and don't pray, that you not the rest of us.
it must be pitiful living believing God doesn't care about our concerns

Yet another ficticious lie of yours. Maybe you don't understand wavering? Our prayers only have the limit of being within the will of God. You do not determine his will. I John 5:14

 

[JMSR]

Our prayers only have the limit of being within the will of God. You do not determine his will. I John 5:14

Mat 10:29 "Are not two sparrows sold for a cent? And {yet} not one of them will fall to the ground apart from your Father.
30 "But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
31"So do not fear; you are more valuable than many sparrows.

Yes we are more important than animals. No they are not outside the will of God.

 

[Trotter]

If all our requests are equally important, then what if some one is bitter and wants to ask God to kill somebody? Is God just as caring for that request as if somebody else asks prayer for the salvation of another? NO! God isn't this mechanical little box you can program. God is far more discerning. He tells us to be anxious for nothing. Supplication cannot be for wishing somebody dead and be equally important.

God gives one fo three answers to prayer... "yes", "no", and "wait a while". Obviously the answer to your first question would be "no" as it is up to God when a person dies and not us.

Funny thing is, though, He still wants us to tell Him that we want Him to kill that person. Why? Simple... God wants us to share our heart with Him. God is a big God and can handle such things. Some would say that is sacrilegious, but He already knows what is in our heart anyway so we aren't hiding it and would be lying if we didn't tell Him.

I have been in positions spiritually where I have literally shook my fists at heaven and God. No, He didn't strike me dead. Instead God let me rage and vent until I had no more, and then He wrapped his arms around me and told me that He still loved me and that He would take away my hurt and anger if I would give it to Him. Eventually I did give my pain to Him, but not immediately. Even then He still loved me and heard me and listened to my prayers. God is not a fragile something... He is Almighty God and can handle to rough stuff.

it must be pitiful living believing God doesn't care about our concerns

It actually is. Many think that they must come to God completely holy and only use "church talk". They never open their heart to God and share those things that are black and evil. God already knows about them, but these people think that if they keep these things back in a corner and pretend they aren't there that God won't notice them. It's rather sad, actually.

When I am spiritually burdened (like I am now), I fear being called on to lead prayer at church. It is so hard not to talk to God about the things that are weighing my heart down. I thank God that He has taught me how to be specific in prayer, to address only that which the current subject of the prayer asked for, such as for the offering or dismissing us from the church service. What I talk to God about is very private and personal, not something I would want to tell anyone else.

 

[sag38]

Why do folks come on here and display a holier than thou attitude and expect the rest of us lower forms of Christianity to fall right in line with their haughtiness? Perhaps it's best to ignore them (Don't feed the trolls!!!). Pharisees didn't listen to Jesus. It's the same for those who live on that high pedestal of self-righteousness. If they wouldn't listen to Jesus then what makes us think they will listen to us pions today?

 

[dcorbett]

I am sorry, the grammar and spelling of some causes me to struggle to define the implied meanings. I am now able to respond to
some of the comments after translating them into something comprehendable. I can read fluent "typo", but I have difficulty with the above.

if you think God doesn't want to hear our prayers, go right ahead and don't pray, that you not the rest of us.

The attitude in this statement is a catalyst for hatred and dissension. Telling someone not to pray....that is so un Christian-like !!! I pray for this person every day, in the hopes that the Lord will soften her heart and make her realize that everybody doesn't think like she does and that the scripture is revealed to some through different methods and with different purpose. Words filled with anger and pain, apparently - and I don't know why they are directed at subscribers in here who disagree with her. Instead of spitting venom at some, she should pray for them instead.

 

[dcorbett]

Why do folks come on here and display a holier than thou attitude and expect the rest of us lower forms of Christianity to fall right in line with their haughtiness? Perhaps it's best to ignore them (Don't feed the trolls!!!). Pharisees didn't listen to Jesus. It's the same for those who live on that high pedestal of self-righteousness. If they wouldn't listen to Jesus then what makes us think they will listen to us pions today?

WE MUST PRAY IN HARMONY WITH GOD'S WILL

A. GOD'S WILL AND OUR PRAYERS...
1. Prayers are answered favorably if we ask "according to His
will" - 1Jn 5:14
2. Prayers more concerned with our will than God's are turned down
- Jm 4:3

B. HIS WILL BE DONE...
1. So Jesus taught us to pray - Mt 6:9-10
2. So He prayed in the garden at Gethsemane - Lk 22:42
3. Such praying made easier when our will is to do God's will
- cf. Jn 4:34

quoted from http://www.ccel.org/contrib//exec_outlines/pray/pray_04.htm1

 

[sag38]

So, you would preach to us pions about prayer? Funny, I agree with you except that I don't pray as one on a higher plane. I understand that God is concerned with all aspects of life and not just those on the holier than thou level.

 

[dcorbett]

So, you would preach to us pions about prayer? Funny, I agree with you except that I don't pray as one on a higher plane. I understand that God is concerned with all aspects of life and not just those on the holier than thou level.

I don't consider anyone a pion.

I posted it in Christian love from a website about prayer. You can choose to read it with thought, or you can snear at it with hatefulness. The people I witness to react the same way....either they think about it seriously, or they snear and walk away. Same reactions.

I don't post anything in here to spark the reactions I get. I get venom from one woman about everything, as if she is the adversary.

Hmmmm......

 

[Marcia]

I never said I was God. I hope sometime that you grow up, dear.

Then quit acting like you are. You do not get to decide what prayer requests have priority and which can be judged.

And please stop calling me "dear" or I will report it to the mods and/or call you "Hon."

 

[dcorbett]

Then quit acting like you are. You do not get to decide what prayer requests have priority and which can be judged.

And please stop calling me "dear" or I will report it to the mods and/or call you "Hon."

"Dear" is what I call young people, male or female. I am Grandmother to 8, and I didn't threaten you or call you a dirty name....so what do you have to report? I also know the law, since I work in law enforcement and have a degree in criminal justice. I have done nothing to be reported for. Take a deep breath and relax. This is a debate forum, not a rage forum.

I do not act like I am God. I didn't decide who could pray about what. I said that the deacon was wrong in his TIMING. Do you comprehend that sentence? I did not say it was not a valid prayer to those who requested it. I said the TIMING was not good. And that is my opinion, and I am entitled to my opinion, based on my Christian walk and my study of the scriptures.

 

[Marcia]

"Dear" is what I call young people, male or female.

You have no idea how old I am. I have a 28 year old son, in fact.

I am Grandmother to 8, and I didn't threaten you or call you a dirty name....so what do you have to report?

I asked you not to call me that and that should be enough. No one on this forum since I"ve been here has ever done this that I recall (use a term such as "dear"). You don't know me and have no right to use the term.

I do not act like I am God. I didn't decide who could pray about what. I said that the deacon was wrong in his TIMING. Do you comprehend that sentence? I did not say it was not a valid prayer to those who requested it. I said the TIMING was not good. And that is my opinion, and I am entitled to my opinion, based on my Christian walk and my study of the scriptures.

Yes, and I answered you earlier. Timing is not up to us Christians, either.

 

[dcorbett]

You have no idea how old I am. I have a 28 year old son, in fact. I asked you not to call me that and that should be enough. No one on this forum since I"ve been here has ever done this that I recall (use a term such as "dear"). You don't know me and have no right to use the term.

Sorry, the way you replied sounded very young. That's why I did it, I won't do it in the future.

Yes, and I answered you earlier. Timing is not up to us Christians, either.

So chaos rules in your church because no one puts time limits on anything? You come and go into classrooms as you feel, regardless of what is going on? You walk up to the platform while the preacher is doing his sermon and start talking?

OR... is that not handled by rules and timing? .... I.E. We have to have some man-made rules of order. God approves.

See my signature on all my messages.

 

[paul wassona]

Mat 10:29 "Are not two sparrows sold for a cent? And {yet} not one of them will fall to the ground apart from your Father.
30 "But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
31"So do not fear; you are more valuable than many sparrows.

Yes we are more important than animals. No they are not outside the will of God.

No one has said that they aren't outside the will of God either.

All ANYONE has said is that comparing a need for prayer for a grieving family over the passing of a mother,wife and friend makes praying for a dying dog to look trivial.

Then the animal lovers more thanmankind got running off into infinity with their accusations.