The LORD said to My Lord…

[SavedByGrace]

Which is it, is being a man, deity or not deity? Jesus was born and grew up to be a man. Or do you believe Jesus' mother is the mother of God?

your theology IS HERETICAL! Your own words condemn you!

"Jesus was born and grew up to be a man"

NO! NO! NO!

Jesus Christ IS 100% YHWH, The Almighty God, Who IS from all eternity 100% COEQUAL and COESSENTIAL with God The Father and God The Holy Spirit. In the Godhead none of The Three Persons are "superior" to the other, or "inferior" to the other. At His Incarnation, Jesus Christ, the eternal YHWH, by the power of God the Holy Spirit, entered the womb of the virgin Mary, and was conceived in her, and was born out of her human nature, 100% human, with the exception of any sin. Jesus Christ REMAINED YHWH, and thereafter BECAME and not CHANGED into The God-Man, 100% God and 100% Man. Jesus Christ was NOT on earth only a human being, Who "gave up" His Deity. Two complete "natures" God and Man, unmixed in the One Person. "God was manifest in the flesh", as the Bible says in 1 Timothy 3:16, and "The Word became flesh", as we read in John 1:14.

Your statement, "Jesus was born and grew up to be a man", is HERESY, as this exculdes His Deity!

 

[thomas15]

Why do you think that? Please be specific.

...In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

...All things were made through Him and without Him nothing was made that was made

...and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us


So simple even a 6th grader can understand it. Do you need a Scripture reference?

 

[37818]

your theology IS HERETICAL! Your own words condemn

You often make false accusations without explanation or Scripture.

You do not know or even understand my Biblical Christology or Theology.

Can you cite one Scripture I deny? You have never yet done that. [We do disagree on texts, 1 John 5:7 the additional words, John 1:18, God or Son.]

Psalms 110:1 does not teach the deity of David's "my Lord." And you argue that it does.

The humanity and deity of the Lord Jesus Christ I never have denied. The Trinity the three distinct Persons who are God have no subordination being God. You deny the subordination of their Persons.

 

[37818]

...In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

...All things were made through Him and without Him nothing was made that was made

...and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us


So simple even a 6th grader can understand it. Do you need a Scripture reference?

That does not explain what you said about me.
So do you deny that the Word was both "with God" and "was God?" Do you deny the Word changed when He became flesh? What changed? that He "was God" or how He was "with God?"

 

[thomas15]

keep digging

 

[37818]

keep digging

You have no excuse for an ad hominem.

 

[thomas15]

Have a nice day

 

[SavedByGrace]

Please keep to the OP

 

[Van]

Jesus Christ is from all eternity Almighty God, The Great I AM, YHWH. THIS is what Jesus means when He says, "Who do you say that I AM"? And THIS is what Pslam 110 is about

Sometimes a NT inspired writer will re-purpose an OT passage. God the Father did not make Jesus the I AM.

 

[percho]

By whom, when and by what means was Jesus, the seed of David, glorified to be made priest for ever after the order of Mel ?

The LORD said to my Lord.

because also Christ once for sin did suffer -- righteous for unrighteous -- that he might lead us to God, having been put to death indeed, in the flesh, and having been made alive in the spirit, 1 Peter 3:18

for I delivered to you first, what also I did receive, that Christ died for our sins, according to the Writings, and that he was buried, and that he hath risen (out of the dead) on the third day, according to the Writings, 1 Cor 15:3,4

for, as the Father hath life in himself, so He gave also to the Son to have life in himself, John 5:26

The LORD said to my Lord

Of what order will we be?

 

[SavedByGrace]

God the Father did not make Jesus the I AM

Jesus Christ IS The Great I AM of Exodus 3!

 

[Van]

Jesus Christ IS The Great I AM of Exodus 3!

Acts of the Apostles 2:34-36
“For it was not David who ascended into heaven, but he himself says:
‘THE LORD SAID TO MY LORD,
“SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND,

UNTIL I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES A FOOTSTOOL FOR YOUR FEET.”’

“Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Messiah—this Jesus whom you crucified.”

According to the New Testament, David was referring to the Messiah, not God the Son.

 

[SavedByGrace]

Acts of the Apostles 2:34-36
“For it was not David who ascended into heaven, but he himself says:
‘THE LORD SAID TO MY LORD,
“SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND,

UNTIL I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES A FOOTSTOOL FOR YOUR FEET.”’

“Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Messiah—this Jesus whom you crucified.”

According to the New Testament, David was referring to the Messiah, not God the Son.

your Christology is WRONG!

 

[Van]

your Christology is WRONG!

I made an argument for the intended meaning as re-purposed in the NT. Simply claiming the argument is invalid is twaddle.
My Christology is based on scripture as understand it from actual study. I am certainly fallible, but will not change course based on apparently unstudied claims.

 

[SavedByGrace]

I made an argument for the intended meaning as re-purposed in the NT. Simply claiming the argument is invalid is twaddle.
My Christology is based on scripture as understand it from actual study. I am certainly fallible, but will not change course based on apparently unstudied claims.

you have been caught out before with your dodgy Christology and Trinity statements!

 

[Van]

you have been caught out before with your dodgy Christology and Trinity statements!

Petty personal attacks have no place is biblical discussions.

God the Father did not make God the Son, but God the Father did make Jesus Lord and Messiah.

 

[SavedByGrace]

Petty personal attacks have no place is biblical discussions.

God the Father did not make God the Son, but God the Father did make Jesus Lord and Messiah.

You saying that Jesus was not YHWH from all eternity?

 

[Van]

You saying that Jesus was not YHWH from all eternity?

Why waste time hurling one false charge after another. I said God made Jesus our Lord and Messiah. Attributing falsehoods to me by implication using loaded questions is the hallmark of a false teacher.

“Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Messiah—this Jesus whom you crucified.”

Here the Greek word translated "Lord" refers to Christ being so to speak the "owner/master" of humanity because He bought humankind with His blood.

 

[Yeshua1]

Which is it, is being a man, deity or not deity? Jesus was born and grew up to be a man. Or do you believe Jesus' mother is the mother of God?

How about Jesus is very God Himself becoming as Man?

 

[Yeshua1]

You are not understanding. The Son of God is one distinct Person with two distinct natures. Now one is being an immortal man. And He was always and is always God. He is one of three distinct Persons who are the one God. Again as one Person has two distinct natures. Man is not God and God is not the man, but the Person being the Son is those two distinct natures.

Why do you always then speak of Jesus as somehow not fully God in some sense then? Keep contrasting God and Him?