The Mark - Tattoo or Chip?

[rockytopva]

Do you think the mark refered to in Revelation 13 will be a tattoo (something scannable like a qr code) or a chip (something electronic). In researching chips most returns are in protecting yourself from fraud. Even a tattoo can be copied.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.- Revelation 13

I would think though that such a mark will be something scannable that will eliminate the need of a billfold.

 

[rockytopva]

I would say that we will have opportunity to receive such a mark but will be called away before it is fully set up.

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; - 2 Thessalonians 2

 

[JonC]

I suspect it will be a corruption of the "seal of the living God" which is placed on the forehead of believers.

Will this seal on the forehead of believers be a tattoo or chip?

I dunno.

 

[rockytopva]

Here is the version 40 QR code. If they could make this into a tattoo and identify it with your credit card you could scan at grocery stores with a mere swipe of the hand.

 

[AustinC]

Revelation is apocryphal language. We read of God sealing his children so the angels know them and care for them.
Satan, ever the imitator, seals those whom God has not sealed.
When the time comes, this seal will be obvious. I don't think it is actually any physical chip or tattoo. I think it is a spiritual seal that marks one as an enemy of God enslaved to Satan and sin.

 

[robycop3]

the mark will be physical, & it'll most likely be some sorta implanted chip. The tech for it exists RIGHT NOW! However, the chip will be much-improved by the time the beast comes to power & mandates it. First, he will hawk it as "theft-proof, loss-proof, always with you", etc. & after the rapture occurs, there'll be little opposition to it, so he can easily mandate it.

 

[atpollard]

Just my "guess" ...

the "mark" is metaphorical.
On the forehead signifies that one must "think" the way the world thinks.
On the hand signifies that one must "do" the way the world does.

1. This contrasts with the call of God for His People to live apart from the world and to "think" as God thinks and NOT as the world thinks and to "do" as God does and not as the world does.
2. Fore a foreshadow of the "mark of the beast" in action, try being a baker in a certain city that chooses to not honor same sex marriage with a cake and feel the wrath of the "world" as it drives you from the market for refusing to "think" and "do" as the world demands.

 

[robycop3]

Just my "guess" ...

the "mark" is metaphorical.
On the forehead signifies that one must "think" the way the world thinks.
On the hand signifies that one must "do" the way the world does.

1. This contrasts with the call of God for His People to live apart from the world and to "think" as God thinks and NOT as the world thinks and to "do" as God does and not as the world does.
2. Fore a foreshadow of the "mark of the beast" in action, try being a baker in a certain city that chooses to not honor same sex marriage with a cake and feel the wrath of the "world" as it drives you from the market for refusing to "think" and "do" as the world demands.

No, it'll be literal. It'll be some of the means the beast/antichrist will use to control the world.

 

[atpollard]

No, it'll be literal. It'll be some of the means the beast/antichrist will use to control the world.

Prove it, otherwise it is just an opinion.

 

[Two Wings]

Rev 14 … an angel declares it. Identifies it.

yet … due to failure to wean off the world … and those whose spirit remains dead …

acceptance.

tattoo or chip?

IDK either but i believe it will be a physical mark.

greater social acceptance of tattoos is programming to accept a physical mark.

we have lots of agencies employing the chip too.

perhaps either/both?

 

[robycop3]

Prove it, otherwise it is just an opinion.

can't prove something that hasn't yet happened, but there's not any hint of symbolism in the passages describing it.

 

[AustinC]

No, it'll be literal. It'll be some of the means the beast/antichrist will use to control the world.

So, what is the literal mark that the angels place on all the saints? Will we get a microchip from God? Read Revelation, God marks his saints before the antichrist marks people.
Can you tell us what the literal mark is from God.

 

[Two Wings]

So, what is the literal mark that the angels place on all the saints? Will we get a microchip from God? Read Revelation, God marks his saints before the antichrist marks people.
Can you tell us what the literal mark is from God.

You appear to have misunderstood ... or I did.

I think Roby is referring to Rev 14 ... where antichrist demands all take a mark ... the 3rd angel he saw ... v 9 IIRC.

Being sealed in Christ is a different act ... and in THIS I understand this isn’t a physical mark on our bodies ... but the mark of the beast IS.

 

[robycop3]

So, what is the literal mark that the angels place on all the saints? Will we get a microchip from God? Read Revelation, God marks his saints before the antichrist marks people.
Can you tell us what the literal mark is from God.

Since He hasn't yet issued it, I don't know. And it's called a seal, while the antichrist's is called a mark.

 

[atpollard]

2 cents:
[2Co 1:22 NASB95] 22 who also sealed us and gave us the Spirit in our hearts as a pledge.
[Eph 1:13 NASB95] 13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
[Eph 4:30 NASB95] 30 Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

 

[Iconoclast]

These have taken place in History.
It will be like was described in Ezekiel 9

 

[Martin Marprelate]

You appear to have misunderstood ... or I did.

I think Roby is referring to Rev 14 ... where antichrist demands all take a mark ... the 3rd angel he saw ... v 9 IIRC.

Being sealed in Christ is a different act ... and in THIS I understand this isn’t a physical mark on our bodies ... but the mark of the beast IS.

Revelation 14:1.

 

[Two Wings]

Revelation 14:1.

Thx Martin.

no. My reference is the angel which declares the mark of the beast.
I did get cross-wired this reference for the antichrist’s declaration. Sorry.

but a physical or symbolic… i believe it to be a physical mark/apparatus’s

 

[robycop3]

2 cents:
[2Co 1:22 NASB95] 22 who also sealed us and gave us the Spirit in our hearts as a pledge.
[Eph 1:13 NASB95] 13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
[Eph 4:30 NASB95] 30 Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

My$0.02
Rev. 13:16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads

 

[robycop3]

These have taken place in History.
It will be like was described in Ezekiel 9

I have a whole big shelf full of encyclopediae & other works of history, as well as eleven English Bible versions, & the occurrence of those events is found in NONE of them.