The MASSIVE tornados in the south...

[Iconoclast]

Everyone on CNN and the Weather Channel are talking like that these are EXTRORDINARILLY destructive and fierce tornados. They are saying things like, "had bad ones before, but NEVER...LIKE...THIS."

Katrina
The oil spill
These tornados


Just wonder sometimes if God Almighty is eather judging us for our hedomism, violence, sodomites accepted, baby killing, etc, with our soon destruction the result...

Or...saying to us " this is your last chance, get your act together, or else I WILL do it."

He has done it before.

(There are times when I am GLAD that I am on the back side of 40.)

At least i can agree with you here:thumbsup:
sounds like this;

6And I also have given you cleanness of teeth in all your cities, and want of bread in all your places: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD. 7And also I have withholden the rain from you, when there were yet three months to the harvest: and I caused it to rain upon one city, and caused it not to rain upon another city: one piece was rained upon, and the piece whereupon it rained not withered.

8So two or three cities wandered unto one city, to drink water; but they were not satisfied: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD. 9I have smitten you with blasting and mildew: when your gardens and your vineyards and your fig trees and your olive trees increased, the palmerworm devoured them: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD. 10I have sent among you the pestilence after the manner of Egypt: your young men have I slain with the sword, and have taken away your horses; and I have made the stink of your camps to come up unto your nostrils: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD.

11I have overthrown some of you, as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah, and ye were as a firebrand plucked out of the burning: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD. 12Therefore thus will I do unto thee, O Israel: and because I will do this unto thee, prepare to meet thy God, O Israel.

No mother nature [an ungodly thought]
no weather cycle [random fate]

Amos declares it was God controlling the events.

17Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.

18And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.

 

[sag38]

And, exactly what is wrong with there being a weather cycle? We know exactly the reason that it didn't rain in the scripture you quoted. However, you cannot apply that scripture to the tornados that recently happened and infer that God caused them. What is it about some who can't see God allowing the weather to run its course or for tectonic plates to shift just as they were designed to in a fallen world? I cannot see that diminishing the sovereignty of God in any way. Could it be that He knew these things would happen but he let nature take its course? Then again He could have caused the tornados as a form of judgment or a sign. He could have caused the earthquakes and tsunamis too. However, we don't have enough information to say either way. All I know is that God is in control and I trust Him.

 

[Alive in Christ]

Iconoclast...

At least i can agree with you here
sounds like this;

Quote:
6And I also have given you cleanness of teeth in all your cities, and want of bread in all your places: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD. 7And also I have withholden the rain from you, when there were yet three months to the harvest: and I caused it to rain upon one city, and caused it not to rain upon another city: one piece was rained upon, and the piece whereupon it rained not withered.

8So two or three cities wandered unto one city, to drink water; but they were not satisfied: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD. 9I have smitten you with blasting and mildew: when your gardens and your vineyards and your fig trees and your olive trees increased, the palmerworm devoured them: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD. 10I have sent among you the pestilence after the manner of Egypt: your young men have I slain with the sword, and have taken away your horses; and I have made the stink of your camps to come up unto your nostrils: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD.

11I have overthrown some of you, as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah, and ye were as a firebrand plucked out of the burning: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD. 12Therefore thus will I do unto thee, O Israel: and because I will do this unto thee, prepare to meet thy God, O Israel.


No mother nature [an ungodly thought]
no weather cycle [random fate]

Amos declares it was God controlling the events.


Quote:
17Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.

18And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.

Good post!:thumbs:

AiC

 

[kfinks]

I just had power restored and had a chance to read this thread....How about a little compassion?

Instead of all this philosophizing, you guys throw a generator, chainsaw, hammer, etc. in your trucks and come help. I have been picking through rubble the last three days trying to help people get enough to get started again. This includes some of the Godliest people I have ever known as well as those who have lived as if there is no God.

If you can't come help, find an organization for financial donations to the small communities (Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc). It cost money to run the large equipment piling up what remains of peoples lives. The guys I have run across are donating time and the use of equipment, but cost of diesel fuel is a real burden to some of them.

 

[sag38]

PM me and tell me where you are and I'll try to come and help. I'll bring some helpers with me. My church is looking for an opportunity to help.

 

[rbell]

It is mother nature getting back as humans. Scientists have said for years that with global warming storms, tornadoes and hurricanes will become stronger. Well ............ guess we are seeing it for real and not just in computer models now.

Maybe "she's" your "mother." I worship the God of the Bible. I don't need a "mother nature" figure to refer to. Perhaps you do.


Anyhow...CTB has posted some monumentally ridiculous posts before. Now he's topped himself.

Come back to the BB when you have acquired a modicum of knowledge.


BTW: Many reputable scientists have scoffed at your silly premise. Not that you care or anything.

 

[sag38]

I thought his latest lunacy way "global dimming." I can think of something that is dimming but it's not the sun.

 

[rbell]

I think the "mother earth" comment reveals volumes about CTB's thinking, theology, and approach to factual truth/evidence (nonexistent on the last one).

 

[Alive in Christ]

Good grief. :tonofbricks:

Why not just find out where Crabtown Boy lives and go there and tar and feather him?

Or better yet, lynch him!

My goodness, I dont agree with him either, but you can disagree in a less insulting and vitriolic way.

By this all will know you are my disciples, by your love one for another.

 

[abcgrad94]

This thread reminds me of Job's friends, you know, the ones who wanted to know what sin Job had committed for God to "judge" him by taking away everything he owned.

The Bible says it rains on the just and the unjust. Why do we as humans always want to throw stones at the victims??? We should use this as an opportunity to show the love and compassion of Christ instead, especially for our fellow Americans. Sometimes it seems we show more care for those overseas than we do those here at home!

 

[quantumfaith]

And, exactly what is wrong with there being a weather cycle? We know exactly the reason that it didn't rain in the scripture you quoted. However, you cannot apply that scripture to the tornados that recently happened and infer that God caused them. What is it about some who can't see God allowing the weather to run its course or for tectonic plates to shift just as they were designed to in a fallen world? I cannot see that diminishing the sovereignty of God in any way. Could it be that He knew these things would happen but he let nature take its course? Then again He could have caused the tornados as a form of judgment or a sign. He could have caused the earthquakes and tsunamis too. However, we don't have enough information to say either way. All I know is that God is in control and I trust Him.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[quantumfaith]

I just had power restored and had a chance to read this thread....How about a little compassion?

Instead of all this philosophizing, you guys throw a generator, chainsaw, hammer, etc. in your trucks and come help. I have been picking through rubble the last three days trying to help people get enough to get started again. This includes some of the Godliest people I have ever known as well as those who have lived as if there is no God.

If you can't come help, find an organization for financial donations to the small communities (Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc). It cost money to run the large equipment piling up what remains of peoples lives. The guys I have run across are donating time and the use of equipment, but cost of diesel fuel is a real burden to some of them.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Kfinks, my church is taking gift card donations for Wal Mart, Publix, Winn Dixie etc. Wish I knew how and when they will be distributed. I would love to come and provide some assistance, must complete giving Final Exams for the Spring Term and will look for a group to head north with. Maintain your strength and resolve, try to brush off the philosophizing and "theologizing" that God brought these terrible storms, something no one can know. May God grant you strength and resolve.

 

[kfinks]

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Kfinks, my church is taking gift card donations for Wal Mart, Publix, Winn Dixie etc. Wish I knew how and when they will be distributed. I would love to come and provide some assistance, must complete giving Final Exams for the Spring Term and will look for a group to head north with. Maintain your strength and resolve, try to brush off the philosophizing and "theologizing" that God brought these terrible storms, something no one can know. May God grant you strength and resolve.

It has been a "fulfilling" few days. It is not hard to ignore the high-brow "stuff" when you dragging brush into burn piles. The initial rush will fade, but there will be plenty of need for helping people clear trees, etc for a long time to come.

 

[ReformedBaptist]

Our church went to Pine Log, GA over the weekend and picked up trash, cut trees, et. Lots of clean-up to do. I had to babysit and couldn't go. But now we are collecting good clothes to take a church up there that is opening a clothe bank for the community.

At first I wanted to buy new clothes cause who wants used clothes....but then I realized I buy most of my stuff at Goodwill. haha.