Rufus_1611
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DHK said:According to Joey Faust, the founder and disseminator of your aberrant theology, there are three types of Christians: the cold, the hot, and the lukewarm.
Those that are hot are those that are faithful having good works right to the end of their lives. When the rapture occurs they will stand before Christ at the JSOC, and the Kingdom will be rewarded unto them.
Then there are the cold--Christians, but rebellious Christians. These Christians are also raptured at the same time--pre-trib, pre-mil. They will stand before Christ at the JSOC, and because of their rebelliousness on earth will be rewarded with a thousand years of torment during the MK.
Then we have a third group: the Lukewarm--they are neither cold nor hot. They will not be raptured. Their punishment is to endure the wrath of God throughout the Great Tribulation. And shall they endure to the end they shall be saved (physically) and inherit the kingdom.
The trouble with all this man-made philosophy is that it is not Scriptural. It is a philosophy. One definition of philosophy is a vain man's imagination. But you surely won't find these ideas in Scipture. You will find them on Faust's website, however. At the expense of using the word heretical it is the most aberrant theology I have ever heard, and yet still have the intestinal fortitude to call himself Baptist.
Man shall not live by imagination alone, but by every word of God.
DHK,
Brother. The respect that I once had for you is being slowly chipped away with each of your posts. Joey Faust is not the founder of Kingdom Accountability and J. Jump has repeatedly demonstrated how he became a kingdom accountability believer outside of the teaching of Pastor Faust. Your continual attacks on Faust without attacking Tozer, Govett, Nee, etc. and play it as though this is some brand new doctrine, demonstrates that you desire to keep this on some sort of personal level against Faust rather than objectively focus on scripture, doctrine and historical teaching. As Lacy pointed out in another thread approximately 50% of The Rod: Will God Spare It addresses what teachers of old said about this doctrine. To say that Joey Faust is the founder of this "aberrant theology" is either the epitome of disingenuousness or the epitome of intentional ignorance. Regardless, I know Joey answers his emails so if you need to personalize this matter with Joey you can send him an email at pastor@kingdombaptist.org.
As to the continued use of "heretic" and "heresy" etc. I thought we had perhaps moved passed this after direction was provided by BB leadership here.I get that my Christian "brethren" like to call people like me who believe in the King James Bible and believe in Kingdom Accountability as being cultic, parasitic, heretics etc. I've gotten used to it as name calling is just part of the sick game that some seem to like to play. Further, I suspect my pastor has also gotten used to being labeled a heretic and so many other names by his "brethren" that he's likely callused from these stripes as well.
Yet now you have gone to a brand new level as you are going to suggest it is abhorrent for him to have the intestinal fortitude to call himself a Baptist. What Joey Faust teaches about the Kingdom is straight from the word of God. If his doctrine is heretical then I am a heretic. If he is to be questioned as to whether or not he is Baptist enough for you, then you can throw that same question my way. Perhaps, you can provide me with a checklist so I can ensure that I'm a Baptist? Maybe, I'm not a Baptist after all as I sure am starting to not feel real friendly to a whole bunch of 'em right about now.
Regardless, none of the above had anything to do with your conversation with J. Jump and J. Jump has nothing to do with Kingdom Baptist Church and did not come to a belief in Kingdom Accountability through Joey Faust. For two years I sought a Bible believing, non-501c3 church. I interviewed or visited over 50 churches in my area and gave up the hunt until my wife sent me an URL for a country church named Kingdom Baptist church and a preacher named Joey Faust. At the time, I was an Arminian and the heresy I thought he'd be preaching was eternal security but by the grace of God we went to that church anyway. The Biblical doctrine that Joey preaches is the only one that I have ever encountered that harmonizes the Bible. It is the only one that settles the Calvinism vs. Arminianism strife. It is the only one that allowed me to believe in OSAS and the only one that allowed me to call myself a Baptist. If you need someone to rail on Joey or Kingdom Baptist church to...I'm your huckleberry not J. Jump or better yet, I would refer you again to pastor@kingdombaptist.org. In the meantime, if you're all about scripture and are so opposed to philosophy, then how 'bout you stick to scripture and leave Mr. Faust out of your arguments, unless of course your scriptural arguments are not strong enough and you require a distraction to help you along.