It is only the elect for which Christ died. </font>[/QUOTE]That simply hold not water Mrs Frogman , Jesus came to seek and to save that which was lost, the spirit of man....ALL mankind. I believe Jesus knew exactly where to find us, because he became one of us for a while, so that he could teach a few all about himself, so that they would teach others who would teach others who would teach others, all the while with the goal established of redeeming sinful man from the clutches of sin. Jesus came to mankind as one of the elect, a jew born of a jew virgin, and the Spirit of God. This boy child would not be ordinary, though he would in every way be tempted as all mankind is tempted, yet he would remain sinless, and be slaughtered on a Roman cross, and his blood spilt as an atonement for the sins of the world, the whole world. He would then rise victorious over death, so that whosoever believeth in him will have eternal life.Originally posted by Yelsew:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Mrs.Frogman:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by romanbear:
Hi froggman;![]()
Why do you believe that only the elect are going to be saved?
Romanbear![]()
The elect, the Jews, as Paul so clearly points out, have rejected the builders block which became the cornerstone of the Christian church. So, God opened the wedding feast up to any and all who would come. Those who cleaned up (had bathed and put on clean garments) were welcomed to the feast, but those who "came as they were" so to speak were cast out!
Those who cleaned themselves were not the elect, because the elect, the first invited guests who declined the invitation for myriad reasons, were not convinced. Those who did clean themselves up and came to the feast are the whosoever wills, the non elect.
"Cleaning themselves up" does not imply that they alone had the power to do so, but they were willing to be cleaned up, and therein is the difference, they by their free will choice to believe in Jesus, were then cleaned up by the atoning blood of the perfect Lamb of God. Their "Garments" were made spotless, and they were wholy acceptable to God. </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry fellas,
My wife was logged in when I posted the above to which Yelsew answered, the above post Yelsew is disputing is my own.
Now I am going to read the rest of the disputation so I can...answer or not. Let me just say, I do not believe any for whom Christ died, will fail to be saved.
"As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I have sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit wherein is no water."
whose blood, whose covenant? where is the prison, who are the prisoners, from what pit, why is there no water?
Not one of the precious children of God shall be forsaken.
God Bless.
Bro. Dallas
God Bless.
Bro. Dallas