The Messianic Kingdom?

[OldRegular]

A couple of people kept whining about And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: but where is their response to post 197. I will post Mauro's excellent comments later!

 

[revmwc]

You are so brainwashed by false pre-trib-doctrine you ignore everything that doesn't compote with that false doctrine. Forget that nonsense about the Jewish millennium and then perhaps the scales will fall from your eyes! The Scripture states:

[/b][/color=darkred]Revelation 20:11. And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.[/color][/b]

You are deliberately denying Scripture in order to support the fable of pre-trib-dispensationalism! A literal reading of Verse 11 makes it clear that the Great White Throne is not on earth. I don't believe it is in the New Heavens and New Earth, at least not when judgment occurs and it most certainly is not David's throne!

Where do you see the BEMA Seat judgement occurring?

 

[revmwc]

A couple of people kept whining about And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: but where is their response to post 197. I will post Mauro's excellent comments later!

From what I read about him he was charismatic and if so I trust nothing he wrote.

 

[OldRegular]

From what I read about him he was charismatic and if so I trust nothing he wrote.

Actually if it were not for the prevalence of Rapture Ready folks among the charismatic groups {Pentecostal, Church of God, Assemblies of God, and perhaps the WOF} pre-trib-dispensationalism would soon die the death it so richly deserves!

Obviously you are like some other Rapture Ready people on this BB. They refute pre-trib-false doctrine you slime them. I don't know whether Mauro was Charismatic or not. He was certainly a gifted lawyer and Bible Scholar. Following is a short biography. You should be so gifted!

A Short Biography of Philip Mauro


Philip Mauro
(1859-1952)
As far as twentieth century Christian figures are concerned, Philip Mauro stands out as one of the most captivating. After coming to a saving knowledge of the Lord in 1903, at the age of forty five, Mauro, a member of the bar of the Supreme Court of the United States and one of the foremost patent lawyers of his day, began his "Testimony" of what was to him the most important event in his life.

His repeated successes in courts of law, coupled with his legal briefs, could not but gain recognition, for they were "models of accuracy, conciseness, and literary finish." As such, they were "frequently used by judges in the text of their decisions." Perhaps one of the most important occasions where his legal work was requisitioned was in connection with the famous Tennessee-Scopes trial in 1925. The brief or argument which Bryan used, and thereby won the case, was prepared by Philip Mauro.

His early twentieth century was a period of great expansion for many errors, such as Dispensationalism and Anglo Israelism. Rising to the forefront of Christianity's great struggle against these foes, he applied the preparation God had given him, and scored great victories for sound doctrine. As a result of his body of work, the following generations have been able to pick up weapons at the spot where he fell and continue the struggle for Truth, as it is to this day.

The very fact that a materialistic, scientific lawyer of such high reputation as Mr. Mauro had become such an earnest Christian and such an able advocate of Christianity, both by his pen and public addresses, caused him to be sought for increasingly as a speaker at Bible conferences and in Christian circles generally.

Perhaps one of the most important occasions where his legal help was requisitioned was in connection with the famous Tennessee-Scopes trial in 1925.

True, William Jennings Bryan, the "silver-tongued" orator, thrice Democratic nominee for President of the United States, devout Christian and popular Bible teacher, was retained by the State of Tennessee to defend its law prohibiting the teaching of evolution in its public schools. The brief or argument which Bryan used, however, and thereby won the case, was prepared by Philip Mauro. This was a great victory inasmuch as the defense attorney was none other than Clarence Darrow, the brilliant and successful criminal lawyer.

And if others did not forget Mauro's legal ability, neither did he forget his former business and legal associates. These he had faithfully and personally witnessed to after his conversion and fervently prayed that they, as he had been, might be brought out of darkness into light. One of the most famous of these was Thomas A. Edison.

As successful patent counsel for the Columbia Phonograph Company, Philip Mauro had repeated encounters with this wizard, who was regarded as "one of the company's most formidable antagonists," in the extensive litigation involving patents. Despite the fact that Mr. Mauro was Edison's legal opponent and invariably his victor, Edison evidently retained his respect for him personally as well as for his intellect, for when in 1926 Mr. Mauro wrote Edison, "giving him a personal testimony as to the peace of mind and conscience that had come to him through trusting in Jesus Christ, the result was an invitation to visit Mr. Edison at his laboratory in Orange, New Jersey." When the two met on October 29, 1926, they had not seen each other for about twenty years.

The story of their interview is best told be Mr. Mauro himself as printed in The Last Hour, edited and published by himself. "Mr. Edison is now in his eightieth year; but his mind is evidently as keen as ever. All his life his attitude regarding things not seen- God, the human soul, life hereafter, etc.- has been severely skeptical. But now, in the sunset of his days, he has undertaken the investigation of those great matters, with a desire to know the truth, but with insistence upon PROOF. 'I want FACTS,' was the way he expressed the attitude of his mind. Owing to Mr. Edison's deafness, it was difficult for the editor to speak to him. But it was better so; and the promise was given that he would read attentively a short letter on the matter discussed." This Mr. Mauro wrote "the day following the interview."

"Dear Mr. Edison,

"It was a real pleasure to see you and hear your voice again. Moreover, the matters touched upon in our conversation of yesterday gave me much to think about.

"You want facts. So do I. A reasonable man's belief should rest upon nothing less substantial than well-attested facts. So here is a fact for you:
"God (whom you reverently call "the Supreme Intelligence") loves you and wants your love in return. My visit to you and this letter are evidence of it, though, of course, not sufficient to prove to your satisfaction either that God is, or that He cares for Thomas Edison. But wait.

"Another fact: God is Light.
"How do I know? I know only in the way that light can be known- by experience. For the nature of light is such that it admits of being known only in the way of experimental knowledge. I am saying this to the man who has had more to do with the development of artificial light than any other who ever lived in this dark world, and who probably knows more about light, in a practical way, than any other. How then could the existence and the nature of light be demonstrated to one who had been shut up all his life in a dark cell? It could be done only in some way such as by opening a window; and then the light would enter, and prove itself.

"This I say, because you are seeking a solution of the mystery of life and the soul by the way of analogies form nature. Very good. Much truth can be got in that way; as Butler, in his famous Analogy has abundantly shown. I hope you will continue your investigation, and in your customary thorough-going fashion; for it is the most important you ever undertook. And in this connection I call you attention to a clear and pertinent analogy; the point of which is that the proof you demand can be had only by experiment. For myself, I know that God is Light, and that He sheds light in the heart that is opened to Him, because I put the matter to the test of experience twenty-three years ago, and have enjoyed the consciousness of spiritual light ever since. Moreover, my experience is that of millions of others.

"Let me remind you that light will not force its way into a place that is tightly closed; but that, if only a tiny chink be opened, in it comes, proving itself.
"Likewise Christ, who is 'the true Light,' does not force Himself into the chambers of the soul against the human will. For the nature of the matter is such that, like the smell of a violet, the color of a sunset, or the taste of honey, it can only be known by experiment. The 'Good Book' that you asked me not to quote, says, 'Come and see,' 'Taste and see.' Is not that strictly scientific?

"You have been truly doing God's work in helping to enlighten the darkness of nature. But there is a spiritual darkness too. So follow the analogy, and it will lead you straight to the truth, and to the solution of the whole mystery of human existence.

"With sincere affection and respect,
(Signed) Philip Mauro."

Philip Mauro was a prolific writer. His works includes God's Pilgrims, The Church, the Churches and the Kingdom, The Hope of Israel, Ruth, the Satisfied Stranger, The Wonders of Bible Chronology, The Last Call to the Godly Remnant, More Than a Prophet, Dispensationalism Justifies the Crucifixion, Speaking in Tongues, and Things Which Soon Must Come to Pass. Many of these works may be obtained through Schoettle Publishing Company, Inc.

http://www.schoettlepublishing.com/biographies/pmauro.htm

 

[DHK]

Consider again Daniel 9:26. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

In the first sentence we read of the murder of Jesus Christ on a Roman Cross AFTER 69 weeks. What happens at sometime following that murder?

and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Above we have the prophecy of the events Jesus Christ promises in Matthew 24, the destruction of the Temple {sanctuary} and Jerusalem {the city} which happened in 70AD at the hands of the Roman Army. Therefore, the second clause of Verse 26 was fulfilled in 70 AD.

Now consider Daniel 9:27. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The big question is what is the antecedent of the pronoun HE? Is it the "Messiah" or "the people of the prince" of verse 26 . Now obviously HE does not refer to "the people of the prince" for at least two reasons, HE is singular, the people is plural, "the people of the prince" made no covenant with the Jews before they destroyed the Temple and Jerusalem in 70AD. Therefore the HE of verse 27 can only refer to the "Messiah", Jesus the Christ of verse 26.

You are mistaken.
1. "the prince" is the closest, the nearest antecedent to the "he" of vs. 27. Both are singular and masculine.
2. "the people" of vs. 26 destroyed the city. That is what the verse says, and that is the most accurate depiction both of the verse and of history. Who ransacked Jerusalem: Titus? or his armies? It was the latter!
But the prince that shall come--"he" --a foreigner, not a Jew, shall confirm a covenant with many (the Jews) for seven years.
--Messiah is only mentioned at the very beginning of verse 26. It could be in a different verse altogether considering that verse division is not inspired and was not put in until many years after the OT was written. The first part of the verse is a completely different thought. Messiah is certainly not the antecedent of "he" of verse 27. How could it be? It is too far removed.

Now consider the first sentence of verse 27: And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:
In the YLT this sentence reads: And he hath strengthened a covenant with many--one week. There is no "FOR" in the original language. The same truth is shown in the GLT. This sentence simply states that during the 70th week of Daniel's prophecy the Messiah shall strengthen, cause to prevail, or make a covenant with the many. There is no date specified for the end of that covenant. In fact it is an everlasting covenant. The impact of that Covenant is that in the middle of the 70th week, or 3.5 years the Messiah shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.

That is not what it says at all. The word "for" may not be in the Hebrew but is supplied by almost every translation available, including the 54 translators of the KJV. It is also accepted and explained by the Hebrew scholars Keil and Delitszch. They say:

with expression בְּרִית הִגְבִּיר with לְ is analogous to בְּרִית כָּרַּת [icere faedus] with לְ; and the construction with לְ signifies that as in the forming of a covenant, so in the confirming of a covenant, the two contracting parties are not viewed as standing on an equality, but he who concludes or who confirms the covenant prevails, and imposes or forces the covenant on the other party… Therefore the thought is this: That ungodly prince shall impose on the mass of the people a strong covenant that they should follow him and give themselves to him as their God.

From verse 9:26 we learn that "Messiah" {Jesus Christ} shall be murdered during the 70th week. Verse 9:27 tells us that "Messiah" shall be murdered in the middle of the week. All this is in accord with Scripture:

Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:

and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27a And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,

As you can see the first part of verse 26 is far removed from verse 27. It could have been a verse in itself. It is too far removed from the "he" in verse 27 to be the antecedent of the "he" of verse 27.

Taking into consideration what the grammar of the verse properly says according to K & D, the KJV and almost all other translations, your interpretation would still require Christ making a firm covenant for 7 years and then breaking the same covenant in 7 years, making Christ a sinner.

Whether "for" is directly there or not is irrelevant. All translations put it there to make sense, as K&D do as well.
Even the translation you quoted from only makes sense with "for."

Dan 9:27
(27) And he hath strengthened a covenant with many--one week, and in the midst of the week he causeth sacrifice and present to cease, and by the wing of abominations he is making desolate, even till the consummation, and that which is determined is poured on the desolate one.'
What do we see here?
--That foreigner, (the Antichrist), has made a covenant, with many (the Jews) for one week or 7 years. And in the midst of that 7 year period he will make a sacrifice.
--That will desecrate the temple (Mat.24:15 as Jesus said), and the end is shortly thereafter.

 

[OldRegular]

Comments on Daniel 9:27 by an early refugee from the false doctrine of pre-rib-dispensationalism, Philip Mauro as presented in THE SEVENTY WEEKS AND THE GREAT TRIBULATION

THE SEVENTIETH WEEK

"And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week, and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease." (Da 9: 27)

We come now to the last verse of the prophecy, which verse is of surpassing interest and importance. It has to do specifically with the seventieth week of the prophecy. The expiration of 69 weeks brought us "unto Christ, " but not to His crucifixion, nor to that which is the great subject of all prophecy, "the sufferings of the Christ" (1Pe 1: 11). Particularly it should be kept in mind that the six things of (Daniel 9: 24) depended for their accomplishment upon His atoning death, His resurrection, and His ascension into heaven. All these events were "after the threescore and two weeks."

When Moses and Elijah appeared with Christ in glory on the Mount of Transfiguration, they "spake of His exodus which He should accomplish at Jerusalem" (Lu 9: 31). His "exodus" or "way out" of this world was the consummation of the purposes of God, the climax of all prophecy, the supreme event of all the ages. Thereby He accomplished eternal redemption, opened a fountain for sin and for uncleanness, sealed the everlasting covenant, and set aside forever the sacrifices appointed by the law.

The first part of Daniel 9: 27, quoted at the head of this chapter, is quite clear except for the words "for one week, " which will be explained later on. The meaning of the clause (apart from those three words) is, we believe, easily discerned in the light of the New Testament scriptures. To "confirm" the new covenant (Jer 31: 31-34 Heb 8: 6-13,10: 1-18), that is, to make it sure, was the great purpose for which the Son of God came into the world in the body of flesh prepared for Him (Heb 10: 5). Moreover, it was by His death as a sacrifice for sin that He displaced and abolished the sacrifices of the law, thus causing them "to cease." God had had "no pleasure" in these because they "could never take away sins, " whereas "it pleased the Lord to bruise Him, " making "His soul an offering for sin" (Isa 53: 10). If we take the pronoun "He" as relating to "the Messiah" mentioned in the preceding verse, then we find in the New Testament scriptures a perfect fulfilment of the passage, and a fulfilment, moreover, which is set forth in the most conspicuous way. That pronoun must, in our opinion, be taken as referring to Christ, because (a) the prophecy is all about Christ, and this is the climax of it; (b) Titus did not make any covenant with the Jews; (c) there is not a word in Scripture about any future "prince" making a covenant with them. Other reasons in support of this conclusion will appear later on. But the foregoing are sufficient. There are three points in the passage we are now studying, and each of them is completely fulfilled in the inspired accounts of the work of the Lord Jesus Christ given in the New Testament. Those three points are (1) confirming the covenant with many; (2) what happened in the midst of the week; (3) causing the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. We will briefly examine these three points in order.

Confirming the covenant with many. We ignore for the present the words "for one week, " which words would seem to limit the duration of the "covenant" to the short period of seven years. It will suffice for now to say that there is no preposition "for" in the text, and that the words "one week" do not refer to the duration of the covenant, but to the time when it was confirmed; for that covenant was confirmed by the shedding of the blood of Christ (Heb 9: 14-20) in "the one week, " the last of the seventy which had been "determined." This will be clearly shown later on. As to the fulfilment of this important feature of the prophecy we have a clear announcement from the Lord’s own lips. For when, in the institution of His memorial supper, He gave the cup to His disciples, He uttered these significant words, "This is My blood of the new covenant, shed for many for the remission of sins" (Mt 26: 28). In these words we find four things which agree with the prophecy: 1st, the One who was to confirm the covenant, Christ; 2nd, "the covenant" itself; 3rd, that which "confirmed" the covenant, the blood of Christ; 4th, those who receive the benefits of the covenant, the "many." The identification is complete; for the words correspond perfectly with those of the prophecy, "He shall confirm the covenant with many." There could not be a more perfect agreement. It is to be noted in this connection that the prominent feature of the new covenant is the forgiveness of sins (Jer 31: 34 ) (Heb 10: 1-18). Hence the significance of the Lord’s words, "for the remission of sins." His mission in coming into the world was to "save His people from their sins" (Mt 1: 21). That is the prominent feature of His gospel (Lu 24: 47 Ac 10: 43). It is further to be noted that, although the promise of the New Covenant was made to the entire "house of Israel and house of Judah, " not all of them entered into its benefits. Those who rejected Christ were "destroyed from among the people" (Ac 3: 23). They were, as branches, "broken off" (Ro 11: 17). We see then the accuracy of Scripture in the words of the prophecy "with many, " and those of the Lord Jesus "shed for many." This use of the word "many" is found in other like scriptures. Thus, in a similar prophecy it is written: "My righteous Servant shall justify many" (Isa 53: 11). Again, "And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God" (Lu 1: 16). This was said by the same heavenly messenger, Gabriel, when he announced to Zacharias the birth of a son. And yet again— this time from the lips of Simeon—" This Child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel" (Lu 2: 34). And yet once more, in the words of the Lord Jesus, "For the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give His life a ransom for many" (Mt 20: 28). In each of these scriptures the word "many" applies to those who receive by faith the benefits of the New Covenant which Christ made sure by the shedding of His blood upon the Cross.

2. In the midst of the week. These words are important in helping to identify the fulfilment of the prophecy. Considering the supreme importance of the death of Christ, upon which depended not only the six predictions of verse 24, but all the purposes of God; and considering also that the prophecy gives the time when the Lord’s ministry as "the Messiah" was to begin, we should expect to find in it a statement when His ministry was to end by His being "cut off." This information is given in the words "in the midst of the week, " that is the seventieth week. The expiration of 69 weeks brought us "unto the Messiah." Only "one week" of the seventy remained; and in the midst of that last week He was crucified. We have here (as already indicated) a valuable means of checking up our conclusions and testing their correctness. For, as has been often pointed out since very early times, the Gospel of John contains information by which it appears that the ministry of Christ lasted three and a half years. In fact Eusebius, a Christian writer of the fourth century, is quoted as saying: "It is recorded in history that the whole time of our Saviour’s teaching and working miracles was three years and a half, which is half a week. This, John the evangelist will represent (i.e. will make known) to those who critically attend to his Gospel." Thus the length of our Lord’s ministry, as disclosed by the Gospel of John (half a week), strikingly confirms the prophecy, which gives 69 weeks unto the beginning of the Lord’s ministry, and fixes the ending thereof "in the midst of the week" following.

Continued.

 

[OldRegular]

Part 2, Continued from earlier post.

Comments on Daniel 9:27 by an early refugee from the false doctrine of pre-rib-dispensationalism, Philip Mauro as presented in THE SEVENTY WEEKS AND THE GREAT TRIBULATION

3. He shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease. No one will dispute that, when Christ suffered and died on the Cross, thus offering "one sacrifice for sins forever, " He then and there caused the sacrifices and oblations of the law to cease as a divine appointment. Even when in full vigour they were but the shadows of that perfect and all sufficient sacrifice which He, as the Lamb foreordained before the foundation of the world, was to offer in due time. Hence they were completely displaced when Christ, through the eternal Spirit, offered Himself without spot to God.

Neither can there be any question that the removal of those sacrifices (which could never take away sins) was a great thing in the eyes of God, a thing so great and wellpleasing to Him as to warrant its having a prominent place in this grand Messianic prophecy. In proof of this important point we direct the attention of our readers to (Heb 8, 9, 10.) In those chapters the Spirit of God puts before us in great detail, and with solemn emphasis, the setting aside of the Old Covenant, with all that related to it, the "worldly sanctuary, " the priesthood, the "ordinances of divine service, " and particularly those many sacrifices (by which a remembrance of sins was made every year); and He puts before us also the confirming of the New Covenant, with its heavenly sanctuary, its spiritual priesthood, its sacrifices of praise and thanksgiving, all based upon the atonement of Christ. The great subject of this part of Hebrews, as of the prophecy of the Seventy Weeks, is the Cross.

Chapter 10 of Hebrews dwells largely upon the sacrifices which were "offered by the law, “ emphasizing the imperfection and insufficiency thereof to purge the conscience of the offerers, and declaring that, for that reason, God had no pleasure in them. It was because of this (" wherefore") that the Son of God said, "Lo I come (in the volume of the Book it is written of Me) to do Thy will, O God" (v. 7). This relates the passage directly to the prophecy of the Seventy Weeks, which has for its subject the coming of Christ into the world and the purpose for which He came. How full of significance then, and how conclusive for the object of our present study, are the words which follow!

"Above when He said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin Thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; then said He, Lo, I come to do Thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that He may establish the second" (Heb 10: 8,9).

This is the climax of the whole matter. "He taketh away" those sacrifices and oblations wherein God had no pleasure! What perfect agreement with the words of the prophecy, "He shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease"! And when we find, both in the prophecy (Da 9: 27) and in Hebrews 10, that this setting aside of the sacrifices of the law is connected directly with the confirming of the New Covenant, we are compelled to conclude that the passage in Hebrews is the inspired record of the fulfilment of this prophecy.

We ask careful attention to the fact that in (Hebrews 10: 12) it is expressly stated that Christ took away the sacrifices of the law when He offered Himself as the "one sacrifice for sins forever, " ere He "sat down on the right hand of God." Those sacrifices, therefore, ceased to exist in God’s contemplation from the moment Christ died. From that moment God regards no longer the sacrifices of the law. It is impossible, therefore, that the words "he shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease" could refer to any event subsequent to the crucifixion of Christ. To this we purpose to return. But at this point we would simply raise the question, where shall we look for a fulfilment of the prophecy, if we reject that recorded in (Hebrews 10: 9)?



FOR ONE WEEK

We come now to the words "for one week" (Da 9: 27), which have been the means of leading astray some who have undertaken to explain this prophecy.

Manifestly those words are utterly inconsistent with the view that the covenant spoken of is the New Covenant, since that is "everlasting" (Heb 13: 20). But it is hardly conceivable that any covenant— particularly one of such importance as to have a prominent place in this prophecy— would be confirmed for such a brief term as seven years Even if we suppose, as some do (though with no proof whatever to support them), that the prophecy refers to some agreement which the supposed "prince" of the future will supposedly make with "many" Jews, permitting them to resume the long abolished sacrifices of the law, can we conceive that such a covenant would be limited to the insignificant term of seven years?

In view of the difficulty presented by the words "for one week, " we consulted a Hebrew scholar, asking him if there were any preposition "for" in the original text, or anything to imply it. His reply was that there is no "for" in the text, nor anything to imply it. This information removed the chief difficulty; but it left still unsettled the meaning to be given to the words "one week." That further information, however, was supplied by the same Hebrew scholar (formerly a Jewish Rabbi, but now a servant of the Lord Jesus Christ), who gave us the English rendering of the Septuagint Version of (Daniel 9: 27). This Septuagint Version is a translation of the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek, made nearly three hundred years before the birth of Christ. It has a claim on our acceptance as an authoritative version, because our Lord and His apostles frequently quoted from it.

Particularly do we ask attention to the fact that when our Lord, in His prophecy on Mt. Olivet, quoted from the latter part of (Daniel 9: 27), He used the words of the Septuagint Version, namely, "the abomination of desolation" (Mt 24: 15). Therefore we have a special warrant for following the sense of the Septuagint. We give the English translation of the entire verse as it appears in the Septuagint.

"And one week shall establish the covenant with many; and in the midst of the week my sacrifice and drink offering shall be taken away; and upon the temple shall be the abomination of desolation; and at the end of the time (the age) an end shall be put to the desolation."

From this wording the meaning of the first clause is easily grasped. It is a common form of speech to say for example, "the year 1776 established the independence of the American colonies"; "the year 1918 restored Alsace and Lorrainne to France, " etc., which is a figurative way of saying that such or such an event took place at the time specified. This form of expression is used when it is desired to call special attention to the year, or other period, in which a certain event occurred. So here, the previous verses having accounted for 69 of the total of 70 weeks, it was most appropriate to emphasize that last week; and especially so for the reason that the last week was not only to fulfil the six predictions of verse 24, but it was to be the climax of all the ages.

The sense of the passage then is this: That the one remaining week would witness the confirming of the covenant (which could only mean the promised New Covenant) with the many; and that, in the midst of that last week, Christ would cause the entire system of sacrifices appointed by the law to cease, by the offering of Himself as the all sufficient sacrifice for sins.

This gives to the last week of the seventy the importance it should have, and which the prophecy as a whole demands, seeing that all the predictions of verse 24 depend upon the events of that last week. On the other hand, to make this last week refer to a paltry bargain between antichrist (or a supposed Roman prince) and some apostate Jews of the future, for the renewal (and that for a space of only seven years) of those sacrifices which God has long ago abolished forever, is to intrude into this great scripture a matter of trifling importance, utterly foreign to the subject in hand, and to bring the entire prophecy to an absurdly lame and impotent conclusion.

Continued.

 

[OldRegular]

Part 3, Continued from previous post.

Comments on Daniel 9:27 by an early refugee from the false doctrine of pre-rib-dispensationalism, Philip Mauro as presented in THE SEVENTY WEEKS AND THE GREAT TRIBULATION

MY SACRIFICE AND DRINK OFFERING

In further elucidation of the sense of verse 27 we would call special attention to the words of the Septuagint Version, "My sacrifice and drink offering shall be taken away." Before the death of Christ the sacrifices of the law were God’s. But He would never call His the sacrifices which apostate Jews might institute under agreement with antichrist. This we deem to be conclusive. Subsequently to the first appearance of these papers we have had access to Dr. Wm. M. Taylor’s excellent book entitled Daniel The Beloved, in which the above rendering of verse 27 is confirmed. Dr. Taylor gives Dr. Cowle’s version of that verse, as follows: "One seven shall make the covenant effective to many. The middle of the seven shall make sacrifice and offerings to cease, " etc.

We quote also from Dr. Taylor’s comments, which afford confirmation of the conclusions we had already reached:

"It is well known by those acquainted with chronology that Christ was born four years earlier than the first of the era which we call by His name. Therefore, at the year 26 A.D. our Lord would be really thirty years of age; and we know (Lu 3: 23) that His baptism, or public manifestation to the people, took place when He ’began to be about thirty years of age.’

"Further, at the end of half a seven of years, or in the middle of the heptad, Messiah, according to this prediction, was to cause the sacrifice and offerings to cease. Now, if we suppose this to refer to the fact that Christ’s death, being a real and proper sacrifice for sin, virtually abolished all those under the law, which were only typical, we have here a date harmonizing with that of the Crucifixion. It is as near as possible demonstrable from the Gospel by John that our Saviour’s public ministry lasted three years and a half (see Robinson’s Harmony of the Gospels, Appendix); and this is corroborated by the parable of the barren fig tree (Lu 13: 6-9) which seems to indicate that three years of special privilege to the Jews had run their course, and that a fourth, or a portion of a fourth, was to be given them. Here again, therefore, we have a coincidence of date between the prediction and the history.

"The exposition we have given of this section of Daniel’s prediction, and of the manner of its fulfilment, is fitted to stir the heart even of the most indifferent. For myself, I feel awed by the sense of the nearness of God, which comes over me when I read these verses and when I remember how they have been confirmed by the events of which Calvary was the scene. God is in this history of a truth. But let us not forget that it differs from ordinary history only that here we are permitted to read out of the Book of Divine purpose and prescience; whereas in other cases that record is hidden from our eyes. God is in all history as really and as much as He was in this. How solemn, yet how reassuring also is the thought !"

In view of all this, we would ask, how can any sober minded expositor of the Scriptures set aside the perfect and heart satisfying fulfilment of this wonderful prophecy, so dearly to be seen in "the events of which Calvary was the scene, " and propose instead a contrived fulfilment, in a supposed covenant (whereof the Scriptures say not a word) between antichrist and the Jewish people of the last days, relating to the imagined revival of the long abolished sacrifices of the law?

Therefore we conclude that the modern interpretation which takes Christ and the Cross out of the last verse of the prophecy, where it reaches its climax, and puts antichrist and his imaginary doings into it, does violence to the Scripture and serious wrong to the people of God.

 

[OldRegular]

From: {http://www.daniels70weeks.com/index.html}

The 70 weeks of Daniel

Of all the controversial topics found in the Bible, none other has been so abused or misunderstood than the prophecy known as Daniels 70 Weeks. There is no other Messianic prophecy that so perfectly foretells the coming of Christ and the year of His baptism and crucifixion. So why is this 70 week prophecy of Daniel 9 so misinterpreted? The true answer can only be attributed to our adversary. The most significant reason being of course is that this prophecy of weeks is perfect proof that Jesus is the Christ (anointed one). Non-Messianic Jews would realize they had missed the first coming of the Messiah if they understood this prophecy, but they avoid it believing this passage is cursed. The one passage proving they missed the Messiah and they won’t read it! Who would you say is responsible? And what would you say if I told you that many now think this prophecy foretells the coming of antichrist?

As part of the Counter Reformation, the Catholic Church commissioned Jesuit priests to write counter interpretations of Bible prophecy as a counter response to the Protestant reformation when the finger was pointed at them as being antichrist. Spanish Jesuit, Francisco Ribera proposed that the final seven years of the 70 weeks of Daniel was a future antichrist and that antichrist would bring an end to sacrifices in a rebuilt temple. This is where the supposed 7 years of tribulation comes from before the second coming of Christ. But this was manufactured prophecy, written with the sole purpose of deceiving Christians on the true identity of antichrist. When has a Bible passage ever been so abused by Satan? Attributing Daniel’s 70th week of Jesus’ baptism and crucifixion and applying it instead to antichrist is outright blasphemous.

Daniel’s 70 weeks is actually not that difficult to understand and current historical information makes it relatively easy to get accurate dates. Despite this, there are an alarming number of people who Daniel's 70 weeks gap theorybelieve there is an unknown gap of time between the 69th and the 70th week that originated from the Spanish Jesuit Francisco Ribera. Chuck Missler and many others have been deceived by this and sadly are deceiving countless others. Publishers Weekly printed that Left Behind authors Jerry Jenkins and Tim LaHaye took the fictional, future one man antichrist idea of Ribera, Bellarmine, Maitland, Todd, Newman, Irving, John Darby, Cyrus Scofield and Hal Lindsey and made it “The most successful Christian-fiction series ever.”

The book “The Late Great Planet Earth” by Hal Lindsey was primarily theological and this limited its appeal, but “Left Behind” was a successful series of fictional novels. So much so that John Hagee, Jack Van Impe and Peter and Paul Lalonde television ministries worked together and produced “LEFT BEHIND: The Movie.” This venture received attention from the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal that resulted in an interview with Jerry Jenkins and Tim LaHaye on the Larry King Live show. This Left Behind fiction is now teaching much of the same Jesuit Futurism as Francisco Ribera, which is hiding the real truth on antichrist and some fictional seven year tribulation period that did in fact originate from an outrageous abuse of Daniel’s 70 weeks prophecy that foretells the coming of Christ, not antichrist.

Futurism through this highly imaginative and fictional Left Behind series has unleashed a tsunami sized tidal wave of false Prophecy, which is sweeping over the entire world. I mean, everyone believes movies and books, right? Thus we now have all this false teaching circulating on some illusory secret rapture and seven year tribulation period as many have taken these books as being primarily true and teach them as if they are Biblical truth even though these books are fictional.

Consider the following in regards to this erroneous gap theory. If you purchased a house on monthly repayments but made your payments every 6 months, do you think that the bank would accept this? Obviously not. How do you think the bank would respond if you told them that you were in fact paying your monthly payments every month but you had added a 5 month gap between the 3rd and 4th weeks making your monthly repayments actually occur every six months? Do you think they would accept your reasoning? It would be far more likely they would call the funny farm and have you committed for some serious psychiatric help! They would also tell you that one month is one month!

Daniel’s 70 week prophecy is also just that! It is not 70 weeks plus some indefinite period of time thrown in between the 69th week and the 70th week. To quote the obvious, that would no longer be 70 weeks! The angelic interpreter speaking to Daniel declares exactly how long it is and nowhere does scripture say we can manipulate time periods by adding time in where we choose. This is nonsensical foolishness and not supported in the Bible anywhere. Those teaching this erroneous heresy have tragically been deceived by our adversary who has succeeded in having them spread this Jesuit spawned propaganda. Too many people underestimate what the enemy can do and has done over the centuries and continually do so.

And just to clarify since some have misunderstood in the past. Yes the Bible does say we go through tribulation but we are not told how long. Scripture says that “except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved.” (Matthew 24:21-22) And yes scripture does teach there will be a second coming of Christ that many refer to as the rapture, but the word rapture is not found in the Bible and nor does it teach that it will be secret.

 

[DHK]

Confirming the covenant with many. We ignore for the present the words "for one week, " which words would seem to limit the duration of the "covenant" to the short period of seven years. It will suffice for now to say that there is no preposition "for" in the text, and that the words "one week" do not refer to the duration of the covenant, but to the time when it was confirmed;

This is a serious flaw in his interpretation. It is unique, and "strange," and does not fit into a proper exegetical and hermeneutical treatment of the passage. It simply presents an excuse for not treating the passage as one should.

Someone made a covenant "with many" for a period of seven years.
Who is the "someone"?
Who are the "many"?
When was the period of "seven years"?

 

[revmwc]

Bullinger on Daniel 9:Verse 27

he shall confirm the covenant = make a firm covenant: i.e. the little horn will do this at the beginning of the last seven years. See note below on "one week". It may even be the beginning of the 2,300 days of Daniel 8:14. Compare Daniel 11:21-24.

the covenant = a covenant.

many = the many.

one week. This is the last seven years which completes the "seventy" of Daniel 9:24; the time when action commences in connection with Daniel"s "city" and "People" (i.e. Jerusalem and Israel). These have been in abeyance since Daniel 9:26. Israel is "Lo-ammi" (= not my people, Hosea 1:9, Hosea 1:10). For the present interval between, Daniel 9:26 and Daniel 9:27, see Luke 4:18-20; Luke 21:24. App-50; also App-63. This fills the first half of the "week" (see Revelation 11:3-11).

the midst of the week = the middle of the week (i.e. at the end of the first three and a half years).

the sacrifice and the oblation to cease = sacrifice and oblation to cease. This is the action of "the little horn" (See Daniel 8:11, Daniel 8:12, Daniel 8:13; Daniel 11:31; Daniel 12:11). This belongs to the time of the end, and will be accompanied by the setting up of the abomination mentioned below and by our Lord in Matthew 24:15. See App-89and App-90.

for the overspreading of = on the wing, or battlement of; but Ginsburg suggests "al kanno (instead of "al kanaph) = in its stead [shall be]: i.e. in place of the daily sacrifice. Compare Daniel 11:7.

abominations he shall make it desolate = the abomination that maketh desolate. See App-90. This is certainly future. See Matthew 24:15. Our Lord tells us where it will stand "in the holy place": i.e. in the Temple at Jerusalem: and we have the same admonition to "understand" (compare verses: Daniel 9:23, Daniel 9:25, above). Antiochus, the type of "the little horn", defiled the sanctuary, but he did not destroy it. He cannot therefore be the fulfiller of this prophecy, though he foreshadowed him.

abominations. Jehovah"s name for an "idol", as being what he detests. Hebrew. shakaz = to be abominable. The "of" in this connection being the Genitive (of the Origin), App-17.: i.e. which causes the desolation. Compare 2 Kings 23:13. Isaiah 44:19, &c. Daniel 12:11 is conclusive.

until the consummation = unto a full end. The reference is to Isaiah 10:22, Isaiah 10:23.

determined. See note on "the wall", Daniel 9:25 above.

shall be poured upon = shall come pouring upon. For the fulfillment, compare Revelation 16:1, Revelation 16:2, Revelation 16:3, Revelation 16:4, Revelation 16:8, Revelation 16:10, Revelation 16:12, Revelation 16:17.

desolate = the causer of desolation. See Daniel 12:11. Then the consummation of Daniel 9:24 will be fulfilled.

 

[revmwc]

Then there is Arno Gaebelein's annotated Bible he too shows the anti-christ as the he in 9:27:

But all this leaves seven years, that is one week, unaccounted for. We have up to now 483 years, and there are to be 490 years. The last week of seven years is still future. The course of the Jewish age was interrupted. It is an unfinished age. Between the 483 years which ended when the nation rejected the Lord of Glory and the beginning of the last seven years of the Jewish age, this last year-week is this present age, the unreckoned period of time during which God does His great work in sending forth the gospel of His grace to the Gentile nations, to gather out of them a people for His Name. This age of grace is still on but it will end some day when God’s purpose is accomplished. Then the true Church will be gathered home to glory and the Lord will turn again to His people Israel and the last week of Daniel will pass into history. During these seven years the Prince that shall come, the little horn of Daniel 7:1-28, will enter into a covenant with the Jewish people. Not with all of them, for there is a remnant of godly Jews who will not accept this one (indicated by the expression the many”--see correct translation). In the middle of the week he breaks that covenant and the result will be the great tribulation, the time, times and half of a time, 1,260 days, 42 months of Daniel 7:1-28 and Revelation 13:1-18. When this great tribulation ends the Lord Jesus Christ comes back and the great things mentioned in Daniel 9:24 will be accomplished.

 

[beameup]

The "door was left open" for Israel to repent and Messiah would return and set-up his Kingdom in Israel. The "door was left open" at least until 70 A.D.

Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. Acts 3:19-21

It calls for the Nation of Israel to repent (the continuation of the ministry of John the Baptist).
The Nation of Israel was to become a "Nation of Priests" as Moses stated. This is reserved for a future time, when the Body of Christ is complete.
God does things in his own time, for his own purposes. God does not operate by "human time" (ie: he does not wear a watch).

 

[DHK]

Jonathan Edwards believed that the "he" or the one referred to in Daniel 9:27 was the Antichrist.

But the reconciliation of the difficulty is in this, that they are all, mystically, one and the same; for they are lively types one of another. What is ultimately respected, is that spoken of in the 12th of Daniel, which is accomplished in the days of antichrist, of which the preceding are lively images. That setting up of the abomination that makes desolate in the sanctuary, by Antiochus Epiphanes, is typical of what was done by antichrist; for he was a great type of antichrist. And so was that which came to pass at the time of the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans, spoken of Da 9:27 and spoken of by Christ, Mt 24:15 Luke explains "the abomination of desolation, standing in the holy place," by Jerusalem being compassed with the Roman armies, Lu 21:20-21. Jerusalem was the holy city, and so many furlongs about it were accounted holy. Now when the Roman army approached within the limits of the holy ground, then the abomination of desolation might be said to stand in the holy place. But the word abomination seems particularly to refer to the Roman ensigns, upon which were the images of their emperors, which the Romans worshipped, as Suetonius expressly tells us, and Tacitus calls them their "Bellorum Dei," their gods of war. Now it was an abomination to the Jews, to see those idols set up within the limits of the holy city; to which may be added what Josephus tells us afterwards, that the Romans, after they had conquered the city, set up these ensigns in the ruins of the temple and sacrificed to them." (Thus, Abp. Tillotson, vol. 2. of his Works, Serm. 185. p. 533.) This setting up the image of the emperor within the limits of the holy city, and afterwards in the ruins of the temple, and there sacrificing to it, is a lively representation of setting up the pope in the church of God, the spiritual Jerusalem, who is the emperor of the antichristian Roman empire, and the image of the beast, an image of the heathen Roman emperors, who is set up as a god in the temple of God, where he exalts himself above all that is called God, or is worshipped, although it be in the temple in ruins. He first in effect destroys the temple of God, and then sets himself up there as God, to be worshipped and sacrificed to. Here see Bp. Kidder's Dem. part 2. p. 11,12,13.

 

[OldRegular]

Bullinger on Daniel 9:Verse 27

You must be getting desperate when you quote a hyper dispensationalist! I thought normal? pre-tribbers thought them heretics!

 

[OldRegular]

Then there is Arno Gaebelein's annotated Bible he too shows the anti-christ as the he in 9:27:

Another dispensationalist. Apparently he bought into the teachings of the Romanist priest!

The 70 weeks of Daniel

As part of the Counter Reformation, the Catholic Church commissioned Jesuit priests to write counter interpretations of Bible prophecy as a counter response to the Protestant reformation when the finger was pointed at them as being antichrist. Spanish Jesuit, Francisco Ribera proposed that the final seven years of the 70 weeks of Daniel was a future antichrist and that antichrist would bring an end to sacrifices in a rebuilt temple. This is where the supposed 7 years of tribulation comes from before the second coming of Christ. But this was manufactured prophecy, written with the sole purpose of deceiving Christians on the true identity of antichrist. When has a Bible passage ever been so abused by Satan? Attributing Daniel’s 70th week of Jesus’ baptism and crucifixion and applying it instead to antichrist is outright blasphemous.

From: {http://www.daniels70weeks.com/index.html}

 

[OldRegular]

The most asinine response yet is the following:

That is not what it says at all. The word "for" may not be in the Hebrew but is supplied by almost every translation available, including the 54 translators of the KJV. It is also accepted and explained by the Hebrew scholars Keil and Delitszch.

Translated that means: Even though the word for is not in the Word of GOD because it supposedly supports my false doctrine I will simply assume GOD made a mistake in leaving it out!:thumbsup:-:applause:-:applause:-:applause:

The truth is there is absolutely nothing in Scripture that supports a supposed covenant of seven years between the Jews and anyone else.

 

[DHK]

The most asinine response yet is the following:


Translated that means: Even though the word for is not in the Word of GOD because it supposedly supports my false doctrine I will simply assume GOD made a mistake in leaving it out!:thumbsup:-:applause:-:applause:-:applause:

The truth is there is absolutely nothing in Scripture that supports a supposed covenant of seven years between the Jews and anyone else.

There are many statements in scripture where words are supplied simply to make the statement to read with ease, not all chopped up. This is one of them.

Here is the translation you quoted:
Dan 9:27 And he hath strengthened a covenant with many--one week,
Note: We don't speak that way. It is "choppy." It is more natural to say "for one week," and thus the word "for" (its intended meaning) is supplied.

Loot at other examples:

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
"It is" is supplied (not in the original). "And that not of yourselves; the gift of God."
We don't speak that way. It is too choppy or broken up. They supplied the "it is" to provide more fluidity, to make it flow better. It is easier for us to read with "it is" added in.

Here is an interesting example that we call dynamic equivalence
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
--Neither "God" nor "forbid" are found in the Greek.

Rom 6:2 let it not be! we who died to the sin--how shall we still live in it?
The literal translation (Youngs) above translates it (May it not be). That is what it is literally--word for word, and that is what Young does in his translation. But that is not how we speak.

The KJV translators, in this case, took the strongest possible objection in the English language which the Greek equivalent (May it not be) expressed, and translated or gave an equivalent expression of "God forbid." Many modern translations and paraphrases overuse this method and it gives way to inaccurate translations. Perhaps here an exception could be made.

Just open your Bible. Look almost anywhere.
For example in Jeremiah 2:14, it says:
"Israel a servant?" But that doesn't make sense. So the KJV translators added "Is" "is Israel a servant." Words are added to give the true sense of the meaning of the verse in question.

The true sense of the verse in question: Dan.9:27 is:
"And he shall confirm the covenant for one week."
You won't find better Hebrew scholars than Keil and Delitstzch to confirm.
Neither will you find such a plethora of translations to confirm the same.

 

[OldRegular]

Daniel’s 70 Weeks.

Consider again Daniel's prophecy of the 70weeks. In doing so consider the passage without the verse structure which was not in the original.

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

In the first sentence we read:Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Six conditions are named in this sentence:

1. to finish the transgression
2. to make an end of sins
3. to make reconciliation for iniquity.
4. to bring in everlasting righteousness.
5. to seal up the vision and prophecy.
6. anoint the most Holy.

Now some on this BB have insisted that not one of the above six conditions have been met or accomplished, that those are intended only for the Jews or Israel.

Consider what Scripture tells us:

There was a man, born some 2000+ years ago who told us:

Matthew 9:2. And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.

Matthew 9:6. But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.

Matthew 26:28.{NASB} for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.

Luke 24:45-48
45. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46. And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47. And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48. And ye are witnesses of these things.

Notice in particular verse 47 where this man tells us: that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. So who was this man who claimed he had the power to forgive sins?

First we hear from his enemies:

Mark 2:7. Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?
Luke 5:21. And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?

And then from this remarkable man Himself. Remarkable Scripture records that this revelation was first made to a Samaritan woman.

John 4:24-26.
24. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
25. The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

The Messiah, for which the Old Testament had much to say was now present on earth. The Gospel according to Luke gives us a remarkable account of the birth of this Messiah and tells us:

Luke 1:30-35
30. And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33. And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
34. Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
35.* And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

The Messiah, not just man, but the GOD-man, the Incarnate GOD, called the son of GOD.

The Apostle John in his Gospel tells us further about this remarkable person who claimed the power to forgive sins:

John 1:1-4; 10-14
1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2. The same was in the beginning with God.
3. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

10. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11. He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13. Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

We find that others who wrote about this remarkable person, the Son of GOD, who claimed the power to forgive sins.

Hebrews 10:12-14, KJV
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Galatians 1:4, KJV
4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

GOD through the Apostle Paul tells us more:

Philippians 2:5-10
5. Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6. Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7. But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8. And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10. That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Now recall what this Man, Jesus Christ, says of Himself:

Matthew 26:28.{NASB} for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.

So to any rational person it is obvious that condition #2 {to make an end of sins } above was met through the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ for the “many” who believe in HIM!

Now was sin in this world eliminated through the death of Jesus Christ. Obviously not. Neither is sin eliminated in the so-called Jewish Millennium! Sin will not be eliminated until Jesus Christ returns in Power and Glory at the end of time as we know it.

To be Continued!

 

[OldRegular]

Daniel’s 70 Weeks.

Part #2, continued from an earlier post.


Consider again Daniel's prophecy of the 70weeks. In doing so consider the passage without the verse structure which was not in the original.

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

In the first sentence we read::Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Six conditions are named in this sentence:

1. to finish the transgression
2. to make an end of sins
3. to make reconciliation for iniquity.
4. to bring in everlasting righteousness.
5. to seal up the vision and prophecy.
6. anoint the most Holy.

In an earlier post it was shown by Scripture that condition #2 {to make an end of sins} was met through the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ on the Roman Cross.

Consider now, on the basis of Scripture, what else this Messiah, Jesus Christ, the Incarnate God accomplished through HIS sacrificial death. Recall that some on this BB have insisted that not one of the above six conditions have been met or accomplished by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, that those are intended only for the Jews or Israel. Perhaps the following passage will show how the foolishness of that doctrine. GOD through the Apostle Paul is speaking to the Church at Ephesus. This is a rather long passage but its significance cannot be overstated:

Ephesians 2:11-22
11. Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12. That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13. But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15. Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16. And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17. And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20. And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21. In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22. In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Notice particularly Verse 13 and then Verse 16:

13. But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

Whatever the Apostle is talking about it is accomplished through the blood of Christ. Jesus Christ, the Messiah of the Jews, through HIS shed blood has reconciled both Jew and Gentile to GOD as Verse 16 shows.

16. And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

Scripture is replete with the teaching that Jesus Christ through HIs sacrifice has reconciled the many to GOD!

Romans 5:10,11, NKJV
10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
11 And not only [that], but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.

Colossians 1:19-22, NKJV
19 For it pleased [the Father that] in Him all the fullness should dwell,
20 and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross.
21 And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled
22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight--

Not only has Jesus Christ reconciled the many to GOD but he has committed to the redeemed the ministry of reconciliation:

2 Corinthians 5:19. To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

So once again to any rational person it is obvious that condition #3 above {to make reconciliation for iniquity} was accomplished through the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ for the “many” who believe in HIM!

To be Continued!