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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by makahiya117, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    Yea not sure why we need to know that.
     
  2. franklinmonroe

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    Some words have fallen into disuse; and the signification of others, in current popular use, is not the same now as it was when they were introduced into the version. The effect of these changes is, that some words are not understood by common readers, who have no access to commentaries, and who will always compose a great proportion of readers; while other words, being now used in a sense different from that which they had when the translation was made, present a wrong signification or false ideas. Whenever words are understood in a sense different from that which they had been introduced, and different from that of the original languages, they do not present to the reader the Word of God. -- Noah Webster speaking about the KJV text in the preface of his 1833 Bible translation ​
     
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  3. makahiya117

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    Webster's dictionary is a monumental contribution to the English language.
    Webster's 1828 dictionary matched the KJV Holy Bibles.

    Webster's bible is a monumental display and a perfect example of foolishness.
    When Webster altered pure KJV texts with "better" words, his pride produced
    diminished KJV texts.


    Bible publishers are doing the exact same thing today !


    KJV Holy Bible
    2 Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation
    through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

    Webster's Bible
    2 Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the sacred scriptures, which are able to make thee wise to salvation
    through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
     
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    According to a consistent application of your unproven assertion, did the pride of Benjamin Blayney and other editors of KJV editions diminish KJV texts when they altered the 1611 edition in many places?

    Your uninformed and misinformed opinions are not supported by the facts.
     
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    Noah Webster was an "Orthodox Calvinist", who wanted an American Bible version. Thus, he made his Common Bible, suited to the Americanized English of the day. And he knew enough Koine greek and hebrew to consult the old Scriptural mss. when be believed it necessary to clarify some seemingly-obscure passages.

    Actually, Webster made a "New KJV", with most of his changes for the better. He replaced "Holy Ghost" with "Holy Spirit" thruout. He replaced gender-specific pronouns for non-living things with "its" or other non-gender-identifying words. He replaced many archaic terms with more-modern ones with the same meanings, I. E. "male child" insteada "manchild".

    The most-galling change to the KJVOs was his correcting the KJV's goof of "Easter" for "passover" in Acts 12:4. (There were no KJVOs to holler about that in 1828.)

    I believe Noah Webster was a lot smarter than the average KJVO. We can thank him for the current spellings of many of our words derived from Latin; his dictionary and speller removed the u from the spellings of Latin words ending in or, I. E. color insteada colour
     
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    O,that is positively devasting to the modern translations! I see so much watering-down in that example of how Webster's Bible altered the pure words of the KJV. He changed the entire meaning -- what a Scripture-twister he was! Thank you for uncovering that. Keep exposing the flaws of these modern versions like Webster's translation.
     
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    You and alvin should get together and write a book on "How NOT to Interpret the Scriptures."
     
  8. franklinmonroe

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    sacred

    SA'CRED, a. [L. sacer, sacred, holy, cursed, damnable. We here see the connection between sacredness and secrecy. The sense is removed or separated from that which is common, vulgar, polluted, or open, public; and accursed is separated from society or the privileges of citizens, rejected, banished.]

    1. Holy; pertaining to God or to his worship; separated from common secular uses and consecrated to God and his service; as a sacred place; a sacred day; a sacred feast; sacred service; sacred orders. ...

    unto

    UN'TO, prep. a compound of un, [on,] and to; of no use in the language, as it expresses no more than to. I do not find it in our mother tongue, nor is it ever used in popular discourse. It is found in writers of former times, but is entirely obsolete.


    -- from Webster's 1828 Dictionary​
    Noah is the expert.
     
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  9. makahiya117

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    calling those who uphold God's Word over man's translation "apostate" will get a person suspended from the BB for hate speech. Sad.
     
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  10. makahiya117

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    Historically and logically, Theology is the master university science.
    Academic Theology was central in the development of higher education
    at Paris, Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Yale and Princeton.

    Since the U.S. Supreme Court (1963) removed prayer
    and Holy Bibles from public education, including higher education,
    the general education grade level has reached an all-time low.

    One simple question clearly demonstrates this critical fact.

    “ What is the most published, read and loved book of all time ? ”

    Today, college graduates don’t have enough knowledge to understand academic theology
    or enough faith to believe the scriptures.

    The KJV Holy Bible is the most published, read and loved book of all time.

    Consider the motives of individuals who have removed the KJV Holy Bible
    from educational curriculums and how ridiculous it is for an individual
    to consider themself educated, having never read the most published
    and loved Holy Bible.
     
  11. Mexdeaf

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    Now on THIS, we can agree.
     
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