The nasty attitude toward anyone who doesn’t only support vaccine narrative

[JonC]

I see an article posted I don’t see where a member said.

On this board it is taken that members post articles in support of their positions that they affirm. Anything else would be close to deliberately posting false information.

And other members posted that a covid virus has not been isolated, it is influenza (they included pictures).

In the end, however, I am not responsiblefor your ignorance. You were active in those threads. Go back and read them.

 

[Wingman68]

I can also show you where a member denied genome sequencing is real.

Also, the covid virus was isolated for the first time in 2019, and many times afterwards. But in flat earther fashion the anti-science folk here just ignore this fact and claim it has never been isolated.

If you want a quote of a member claiming the covid virus has not been isolated I can provide one.

A member posted that mRNA vacvines have not been tried on animals or people before. But in 1990 it was tried in animals and from Oct 2013 to Feb 2018 a mRNA vaccine for rabies was tried in humans.

I can quote the member who said it was not tried in humans before as well.

I can quote a member who thought the vaccine was gene therapy. And another who believed it altered our DNA.

I can provide a quote from a member who claimed the vaccine was made from aborted fetuses.

And I can provide quotes of members saying covid is a new world conspiracy by the Freemasons to reduce the world population.

All of these absurdities are on this board. Just frightened people trying to comfort one another.

You can come up with whatever because YOU have full access. I’ve seen this movie before, & been advised on the outcome. Let me promise you, none, reiterated…..none from my side are acting out of fear. What scares us is people allowing this to happen, laying down, even encouraging. Those who encourage have lost my respect forever.

 

[JonC]

You can come up with whatever because YOU have full access. I’ve seen this movie before, & been advised on the outcome. Let me promise you, none, reiterated…..none from my side are acting out of fear. What scares us is people allowing this to happen, laying down, even encouraging. Those who encourage have lost my respect forever.

You even said covid is not different from the common cold and scientists have not isolated an actual covid virus (this was in August on the Disney thread).

 

[Wingman68]

On this board it is taken that members post articles in support of their positions that they affirm. Anything else would be close to deliberately posting false information.

And other members posted that a covid virus has not been isolated, it is influenza (they included pictures).

In the end, however, I am not responsiblefor your ignorance. You were active in those threads. Go back and read them.

Alrighty then…..now I get it. Anything linked or posted is 100% the posters word. NOW you can hang someone for sharing information. Never heard those ‘unseen’ rules. Keep talking Jon, this is getting good.

 

[JonC]

Alrighty then…..now I get it. Anything linked or posted is 100% the posters word. NOW you can hang someone for sharing information. Never heard those ‘unseen’ rules. Keep talking Jon, this is getting good.

And several times you said there was no pandemic.

 

[JonC]

Alrighty then…..now I get it. Anything linked or posted is 100% the posters word. NOW you can hang someone for sharing information. Never heard those ‘unseen’ rules. Keep talking Jon, this is getting good.

Yes, Christians are responsible for their words. And yes, members are responsible for the content they post even if they are quoting another person.

 

[Wingman68]

Yes, Christians are responsible for their words. And yes, members are responsible for the content they post even if they are quoting another person.

Well then, when we find out the CDC has been fudging the #’s, how many here will be a liar? Good to know you are doing such a fine job of keeping tabs on the ‘lies’. What are moderators for, afterall.

 

[JonC]

The Coronavirus COVID-19, is "Just Another Flu"

No. Covid is not just another influenza virus.

Covid wont stop till 70% have had the disease

No, Scott. It is not just influenza.

Florida over half those seeking lifesaving covid treatment are full vaxxed

No, @Revmitchell , they CAN distinguish covid from the flu. The covid virus has been isolated many times since it was first isolated in 2019.

Florida over half those seeking lifesaving covid treatment are full vaxxed

No, @Revmitchell, the flu shot does not protect against covid. It is a different virus.

No, Scott, covid is not the flu. The flu is caused by an influenza virus, covid-19 by a coronavirus.

No, @Revmitchell, covid tests can differentiate between covid and the flu.

 

[Wingman68]

And several times you said there was no pandemic.

You are stretching the truth, twisting words again. Pretty sure that would have been one of my ‘what if’ statements, but if you can prove me wrong, do so. This is a forum, what is a forum? It’s an exchange of ideas, not a show trial for your agenda.

 

[JonC]

You are stretching the truth, twisting words again. Pretty sure that would have been one of my ‘what if’ statements, but if you can prove me wrong, do so. This is a forum, what is a forum? It’s an exchange of ideas, not a show trial for your agenda.

Read the posts.

Two choices:

1. You posted what you believed was correct.

2. You were deliberately posting misinformation (information you believed incorrect).

I have no problem believing the latter. That has been my complaint for awhile. You guys post false propaganda knowing it is misinformation.

 

[Wingman68]

Read the posts. They were not "what if's".

You were simply wrong.

Read what posts….None of your links quote me saying anything of the sort. What I did see on these links was all the people no longer here……so many, & I guess it slipped by me that Scott Downey was gone now too. Good for you, Jon, good for you. Successfully keeping things honest. Of course, there’s always more work to do, keeping up with those of us whom you continually name in your posts.

 

[JonC]

Read what posts….None of your links quote me saying anything of the sort. What I did see on these links was all the people no longer here……so many, & I guess it slipped by me that Scott Downey was gone now too. Good for you, Jon, good for you. Successfully keeping things honest. Of course, there’s always more work to do, keeping up with those of us whom you continually name in your posts.

Just go by what you told me, then.

You posted an articles saying covid was fake and the pandemic was fake.

You are now saying you did not believe what you posted.

So you were deliberately posting misinformation (information that supported the anti-covid-vax position but also information you believed to be false).

Do you think it is better to post misinformation thinking it is true ot misinformation knowing it is false?

 

[JonC]

@Wingman68 ,

So as not to derail this thread any more I have started another to continue our discussion.

I am interested in understanding why you believe it is appropriate in an argument or debate to post information supporting your side that you believe is untrue.

I doubt you are the first to do this, and you probably will not be the last. I am curious about your motivation for posting what you see as misinformation.

Covid Politics and Responsible Posting

 

[Reformed1689]

On this board it is taken that members post articles in support of their positions that they affirm.

That is a load of crock and you know it.

 

[Wingman68]

@Wingman68 ,

So as not to derail this thread any more I have started another to continue our discussion.

I am interested in understanding why you believe it is appropriate in an argument or debate to post information supporting your side that you believe is untrue.

I doubt you are the first to do this, and you probably will not be the last. I am curious about your motivation for posting what you see as misinformation.

Covid Politics and Responsible Posting

Not interested. This OP has not been derailed, just proves the OP.

 

[JonC]

Not interested. This OP has not been derailed, just proves the OP.

OK. Then I will ask you here:

You say that you believe the article you posted is false.

Why, in an argument or debate, did you post information that you believe is false?

 

[Wingman68]

OK. Then I will ask you here:

You say that you believe the article you posted is false.

Why, in an argument or debate, did you post information that you believe is false?

I said nothing of the sort. I said it was a revelation that people here could be held to an article posted by them as being 100% their own belief. It now makes sense why all the people are gone. Gone by a smoke & mirrors game that was worked up to catch them on their back foot. That’s why I said I’ve seen this movie before. Did you know that people suffer, more than just the humiliation of getting tossed from a Christian board, but they suffer over the accusation that goes to their character. I’m sure you don’t care, you’ve said as much when you are not just ignoring that it ever even happened. I find it shameful. You asked-put it in my file.

 

[JonC]

I said nothing of the sort. I said it was a revelation that people here could be held to an article posted by them as being 100% their own belief. It now makes sense why all the people are gone. Gone by a smoke & mirrors game that was worked up to catch them on their back foot. That’s why I said I’ve seen this movie before. Did you know that people suffer, more than just the humiliation of getting tossed from a Christian board, but they suffer over the accusation that goes to their character. I’m sure you don’t care, you’ve said as much when you are not just ignoring that it ever even happened. I find it shameful. You asked-put it in my file.

I agree character is involved.

This is very simple. You are the one trying to use smoke and mirrors.

You posted this:

The Virus Is Fictitious.” CDC Sued by 7 Universities’ Scientists for Huge Fraud
june 4, 2021 by canadaman2020


By Enza Ferreri

In a previous post we have reported how Dr. Stefano Scoglio, Ph.D., B.Sc., Italian 2018 Candidate Nobel Prize in Medicine came to the conclusion that it’s not sure this virus exists, and that he’s one of the increasing number of medical prestigious professionals who question the reality of the claimed “isolation” of the SARS-Cov-2 virus and the validity of the RT-PCR test supposedly able to detect it.

NO TRACE OF THIS VIRUS AT ALL. FOUND ONLY TYPE A AND B INFLUENZA VIRUSES
Now even more evidence emerges casting serious doubts on the existence of the novel coronavirus which is reputed to cause the alleged new disease Covid-19.

Dr. Derek Knauss, clinical scientist and immunologist-virologist at a Southern California laboratory, says he and his colleagues from 7 universities are suing the CDC for massive fraud.

Dr. Derek Knauss says:

I have a PhD in virology and immunology.

I’m a clinical lab scientist and have tested 1,500 “supposed” positive COVID-19 samples collected here in Southern California.

When my lab team and I subjected the 1,500 supposedly positive Covid-19 samples to Koch’s
postulates and put them under an SEM (electron microscope), we found NO Covid in all 1,500 samples. We found that all 1,500 samples were primarily Influenza A, and some Influenza B, but no cases of Covid. We did not use the [unreliable] PCR test.

When we sent the rest of the samples to Stanford, Cornell, and a couple of the labs at the University of California, they came up with the same result: NO COVID. They found Influenza A and B. Then we all asked the CDC for viable samples of Covid. The CDC said they can’t give them, because they don’t have those samples.

So we came to the hard conclusion through all our research and lab work that Covid-19 was imaginary and fictitious. The flu was only called ‘Covid,’ and most of the 225,000 deaths were from co-morbidities such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, pulmonary emphysema, etc.. They got the flu which further weakened their immune systems, and they died.

I still need to find one viable sample with Covid-19 to work with. We who conducted the lab test with these 1,500 samples at the 7 universities are now suing the CDC for Covid-19 fraud. The CDC still has not sent us a viable, isolated and purified sample of Covid-19. If they can’t or won’t, then I say there is no Covid-19. It’s fictional.

The four research papers describing the genome extracts of the Covid-19 virus never managed to isolate and purify the samples. All four papers describe only small pieces of RNA that are only 37 to 40 base pairs long. That is NOT a VIRUS. A viral genome normally has 30,000 to 40,000 base pairs.

Now that Covid-19 is supposedly so bad everywhere, how come not one lab in the world has completely isolated and purified this virus? That’s because they never really found the virus. All they ever discovered were small pieces of RNA that were not identified as the virus anyway. So what we’re dealing with is just another flu strain, just like every year. Covid-19 does not exist and is fictitious. [Emphasis added]

I want to underline all this because it’s something of momentous and shocking importance. The results of these lab tests were staggering.

Not even one single allegedly positive test was found to have SARS-CoV-2, the virus believed to be the cause of the new disease Covid-19 . There was no trace of this virus at all. Scientists found only type A and B influenza viruses.

Even the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), when requested to provide virus samples, admitted not to have any availability of them.

At that point, Dr. Knauss and his scientist colleagues concluded that the virus does not exist because no one has been able to bring incontrovertible evidence of its existence. They took the flu, called it “Covid-19” and created the most enormous scam in history. The public believed it and still believes it.

This could help explain why the flu has practically disappeared from the statistics collected since the beginning of the “Covid pandemic”. See the following WHO data on numbers of global influenza cases per week, from the first week of 2020.

Either you believe it is true or you believe it is not true.

Which is it?

 

[kathleenmariekg]

The reason is our nation is divided politically, and for a minority the vaccine is a political issue.

There is an extraordinary nasty attitude against those who chose to be vaccinated (even violence against nurses providing vaccinations to those wanting one).

There is nastiness on both sides. Nastiness comes in many forms.

Now it is not even good enough to be vaccinated. It is starting to matter what brand of vaccine you received. Too many Moderna x3 people have started refusing to have close contact with anyone that has not also had Moderna x3. We have now entered the time when the poor become the untouchables, even if they agreed to be immunized with the only thing offered to them.

I'm not picking sides. The poor are not even considered a side, but are being treated the nastiest by both sides, no matter what they do.

 

[Centrist]

I got the Moderna shot (Moderna 028A21A, 4/3/21 & 5/1/21), and I ain't dead yet. Is it fake? I dunno. Just like crossing Wiltshire Blvd. in a crosswalk with a "Cross Now" signal in Hollywood CA at 12 noon, it's a gamble. If I live, I live to see another day. If I die, guess I get to meet Jesus earlier than expected. Just another reason to stay on His good side.