The New Alamo Movie

[KenH]

I just got home after watching the new Alamo movie. It is, in my opinion, the best movie about the Alamo. Billy Bob Thornton does a great job as Davy Crockett.

I believe it is well worth watching.

 

[rsr]

Ken, in another thread it's denounced as revisionist history and kowtowing to political correctness. I haven't seen it, but surely it has to be better than its predecessors.

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by rsr:
in another thread it's denounced as revisionist history and kowtowing to political correctness.

I have read such myself but after seeing it that is simply not true. As one born and reared in Texas my admiration for Crockett, Bowie, and Travis was not attacked at all by anything in the film. I probably feel better about Sam Houston than before. Santa Anna was shown for the butcher that he was.

 

[rsr]

I was watchng the History Channel presentation today about the Alamo, and it lined up (so I'm told) with the movie. Am I deceived? Could it possibly be that the Alamo defenders were not pure as the driven snow?

 

[KenH]

I don't know anyone who claimed they were. We all know about Bowie and Houston's drinking problems and about Travis's less than moral conduct. The cleanest of the bunch was Crockett.

There's only been one Person Who has walked this earth Who was pure as the driven snow, and you're not him, rsr. And neither am I, nor was Houston, Bowie, Travis, or Crockett, or Santa Anna.

So take your dig and stuff it in a convenient place.

 

[rsr]

I don't know anyone who claimed they were. We all know about Bowie and Houston's drinking problems and about Travis's less than moral conduct. The cleanest of the bunch was Crockett.

Well, Ken, you are a prize indeed. Most of America has accepted the John Wayne myth, and you propose that everyone knows better.

You have attacked me for agreeing with you. If I didn't know better, I would think you are a Texian, not an Arkansawer (or Arkanser).

I was simply trying to point out that the traditional Texian version of the Alamo was not the end-all and be-all of truth.

The Texas war for independence was a result of a complex mixture of slavery, Mexican arrogance and American filibustering.

Disagree with that.

Oh, BTW, I have never equated myself with the Christ and His holiness. That would be heresy and downright low and dishonest.

[ April 10, 2004, 06:15 PM: Message edited by: rsr ]

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by rsr:
Ken, you are a prize indeed. You have attacked me for agreeing with you. If I didn't know better, I would think you are a Texian, not an Arkansawer (or Arkanser).

I was born and reared in Texas. I went to college in Searcy, Arkansas at a Church of Christ college and then came to work in El Dorado, Arkansas upon graduation.

As for the rest, I have no intention to argue over the slavery issue. Everyone probably knows my opinion about the War for Southern Independence as we have talked a lot about this on this board a few months back.

 

[rsr]

You can take your Lone Star flag and Confederate flag and, as you say, "stuff it in a convenient place."

You are a difficult person, Ken. I try to agree with you and you are disagreeable.

Is it not a fact that "The Texas war for independence was a result of a complex mixture of slavery, Mexican arrogance and American filibustering?"

 

[KenH]

It was a matter of obtaining independence for Texas from a brutal dictator. And I am grateful to those that accomplished that independence. Just like I am grateful to those who achieved our independence from England in 1776.

One can argue over the why's and wherefore's from now until Doomsday as human history is made by flawed humans, not angels.

 

[rsr]

Just curious. Foreigners were allowed to settle in Tejas so long as they converted to Roman Catholicism. How did all the Protestants get there? Do you suppose they lied?

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by rsr:
Do you suppose they lied?

If they did, there ain't a thing anyone can do about it now. What's history is history.

 

[rsr]

Nah. History is never over. Eventually, Mexico will retake Tejas, one way or the other.