The New Humble Pope

[Gregory Perry Sr.]

Words that don't belong.....

The words "poor", "humble", "meek", "humility" and other such words have no place in any discussion about the Roman Catholic Church. Just because they do charitible "works" does not necessarily qualify them OR ANYBODY as "good"..... Matthew 7:21-23 (KJV)

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Bro.Greg:saint:

 

[BobRyan]

riests, whether it is public or private is a matter of schedules I would imagine.

Why is the RCC apparently holding the key to solving world poverty? Surely, if the squillons squandered on military ordinance .

I agree that if we look to worldly institutions instead of the largest most wealthy Christian church on the planet to solve world hunger - that the world ties up its own money in ways that do not always honor God.

I think that goes without saying.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[targus]

The RCC is sitting on trillions of dollars in assets.

When that money is gone - so also is world hunger.

The RCC spends 171 Billion each year to run its facilities - in America alone.

http://www.economist.com/node/21560536

in Christ,

Bob

Typical SDA misleading debate tactic...

If one reads the article the majority of that amount is to run hospitals and schools.

Should the Catholic Church shut down their hospitals and schools?

Why doesn't Bob Ryan advocate for the SDA to sell off their hospitals and schools to give the money to the poor?

 

[BobRyan]

See this argument about the "Wealth" of the Catholic Church is actually from a false premise. The truth of the Matter is in Europe hundreds of years ago people wanted to glorify God thus Cathedrals were built, art work was made, and people generally gave their best materials and work to glorify God to their best ability. The Church's and art work in Europe testify to this. And since this was done out of love of God these were for the Church by members of the Church. These were the active places for worship in Europe like modern day churches. Now during the Protestant reformation many of the Cathedrals and churches were actually confiscated by protestant governments like England, Holland, and the Netherlands.

When the trillions of dollars of assets are mentioned regarding the RCC today - no economist I know of - goes back and tries to count former Catholic properties that are now owned today by Protestants - as still being in the scope of "Catholic assets". Are you saying that you know of such a thing?

I have never heard of it.

And as for how the Basilica in Rome was built. Wasn't that based on bilking the poor by telling them to give money for indulgences to get their loved ones out of the torments of purgatory and that no matter how much they were starving it could not be worse than what was suffered by their loved ones in imaginary Purgatory?

Isn't that how we got the protesting Catholics to rise up and complain that such things were being done?

Given that the means to build and buy and pay for those works of art and palaces was in fact obtained by dealing this way with the poor - it is only fitting that they be sold and given back to the poor don't you think?

in Christ,

Bob

 

[Gregory Perry Sr.]

Pure Willful Stupidity

You'd have to be willfully blind, stupid and foolish to view the assets and properties (starting with Vatican city) of the catholic church and have ANY illusion of their being "poor" of having the slightest idea about what it means to experience any "state" of poverty. The ONLY poverty they know anything about has to do with their state of spiritual blindness....and that is a poverty they are too blind to see...much less admit to. Very sad indeed.:tear:

Bro.Greg