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Earth Wind and Fire

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LOL i am going to presume "tongue in cheek".

Defend ourselves of course if it comes to that.
You presume incorrectly. Besides we need to war and war is our natural state. War will set a pace we desperately need and will help grow our economy. China needs to be eliminated.
 

KenH

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I view it as eliminating evil once and for all. Remember Korea, remember Vietnam Nam.

As Christians we are not to repay evil for evil. That is the way unsaved people act.

“Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all.” - Romans‬ ‭12:17‬ ‭ESV‬‬
 

HankD

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Hard to believe that Christians can talk so cavalierly about nuclear annihilation.
yes it is a fault of which i am guilty.
In my military days i worked as an intel/info technician and learned firsthand concerning man's inhumanity to man.
I operated computers and other devices collecting data which i also (later in my military assignment) analyzed from our enemies and in my day (1960's) the number 1 candidate was the Soviet Union in her full strength and glory,

So i know from that experience and later as a military system architect/engineer the unthinkable horrors we plan to give each other.

Nevertheless I do believe in AND SUPPORT a defensive war - EYE FOR EYE, TOOTH FOR TOOTH, ETC... and a STRONG MILITARY
 

KenH

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EYE FOR EYE, TOOTH FOR TOOTH

That part of the Law of Moses, never given to Gentiles, only to ancient Israel, was a restriction on man’s behavior, not mandating it. In modern usage, it would mean if someone slaps you that you could only slap them back, not take a gun and shoot them.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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As Christians we are not to repay evil for evil. That is the way unsaved people act.

“Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all.” - Romans‬ ‭12:17‬ ‭ESV‬‬
Oh does that explain ww1 and 2, Korea, Vietnam nam?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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That part of the Law of Moses, never given to Gentiles, only to ancient Israel, was a restriction on man’s behavior, not mandating it. In modern usage, it would mean if someone slaps you that you could only slap them back, not take a gun and shoot them.
That’s defensive... why do you think people carry weapons? Why do we have a military!
 

KenH

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That’s defensive... why do you think people carry weapons? Why do we have a military!

We live in a fallen, corrupt world ever since Adam sinned in the Garden of Eden. We are so corrupt that only by the completed work of Christ Jesus that we can be saved. We all, Christian and non-Christian, sin and sin and sin. It’s just the way it is and like the member of a British bomber crew in WWII who, after a bombing run, would go into the woods and ask God to forgive him for what he had done, we throw ourselves at His feet and ask for mercy on the basis of His Son.
 

HankD

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That part of the Law of Moses, never given to Gentiles, only to ancient Israel, was a restriction on man’s behavior, not mandating it. In modern usage, it would mean if someone slaps you that you could only slap them back, not take a gun and shoot them.
if you want to know what God desires in a government for man then ISRAEL is the model so
EYE FOR EYE TOOTH FOR TOOTH LIFE FOR LIFE is how you behave defensively as a nation.

if any nation such as NAZI GERMANY or IMPERIAL JAPAN falls from natural common grace then they can be dealt with as the principal of equilibrium - EYE FOR EYE, ETC...

PAX ROMANO WORKS ALSO. if some one brings a knife to a fight, you bring a gun.
 

KenH

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if you want to know what God desires in a government for man then ISRAEL is the model so
EYE FOR EYE TOOTH FOR TOOTH LIFE FOR LIFE is how you behave defensively as a nation.

if any nation such as NAZI GERMANY or IMPERIAL JAPAN falls from natural common grace then they can be dealt with as the principal of equilibrium - EYE FOR EYE, ETC...

PAX ROMANO WORKS ALSO. if some one brings a knife to a fight, you bring a gun.

Difficult issues in a fallen, corrupt world inhabited by depraved folks like, well, like all of us.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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We live in a fallen, corrupt world ever since Adam sinned in the Garden of Eden. We are so corrupt that only by the completed work of Christ Jesus that we can be saved. We all, Christian and non-Christian, sin and sin and sin. It’s just the way it is and like the member of a British bomber crew in WWII who, after a bombing run, would go into the woods and ask God to forgive him for what he had done, we throw ourselves at His feet and ask for mercy on the basis of His Son.
Kinda hypocritical don’t you think. Now the Maori tribes have it right... kill them and eat them! LOL
 
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HankD

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Difficult issues in a fallen, corrupt world inhabited by depraved folks like, well, like all of us.
well if someones depravity crosses my boundaries then you are correct.
Concerning the sermon on the mount and turning the other cheek
1) Jesus addressed issues which were non-life threatening (slap on cheek, etc)
2) what happens when I run out of cheeks?
 
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