The Pope and Obama: Two of a kind?! You tell me!

[righteousdude2]

Do you remember this? http://www.catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id=51077

I was reading through the paper and came across an article about the pope and how his actions have served to drive a deep wedge between himself and conservative Catholics, especially conservative Catholics in the US! https://www.catholicvote.org/conservative-catholics-does-pope-francis-make-you-grumpy/

Do you get the feeling that Obama and Francis are cut from the same cloth?

 

[church mouse guy]

Both Pope Francis and Obama are leftists.

Everyone knows about Obama's connections to the US Communist Party through Frank Marshall Davis, a former Chicagoan who mentored Obama in Hawaii, and everyone knows how those connections to Chicago formed the basis for Obama's friends and political allies in Chicago, where Obama attended a Garvey black liberation theology church.

Pope Francis, from Peronist Argentina also is a believer in liberation theology, considered to be the brainchild of the KGB who wanted to sucker Christians into thinking that communism and Christianity are the same thing. Cuban dissidents say that Pope Francis is a Peronist--Peron being an Argentine dictator with Italian roots (like many in Argentina). Peron travelled to Italy and wanted to introduce socialistic government into Argentina such as he observed in Mussolini. So you can say that Peronists are socialists modelled after Fascism.

Pope Francis immediately began to overthrow the works of Pope John Paul II who had defrocked and reprimanded many communistic priests in Latin America. Pope Francis has re-instated those priests and accepted, as you know, a crucifix from the President of Bolivia, Evo Morales, a full-blooded Indian cocaine grower and narcotrafficer ally of Castro--this crucifix showing Jesus crucified on the hammer and sickle of communism.

The Pope apparently is planning to lecture Americans on allowing more Latinos into our "evil" country. The Catholic Bishops have many empty churches and they want gullible Latinos to fill the pews even if it further empties the pews in Latin America, where Catholicism is on the decline as it is worldwide.

The Pope probably wants to lecture Americans on giving more dollars to the Vatican, which is always broke because of the expense of maintaining a huge palace filled with centuries of artifacts that must be maintained and guarded, not to mention the cost of the papacy itself which is expensive like ancient royalty--the papacy having been considered a kingship until the 20th century.

Finally, the Pope intends to visit the Castros in Cuba where the Catholic Church has said that Cuban Protestants are scum and that Cuban dissidents in the 300 prisons of Cuba are not welcome in the Catholic Church. With all of South America and Central America in political and economic collapse due to socialism, it is unlikely that Pope Francis will have any words of comfort for common people in Latin America.

Pope Francis never saw a dictator that he didn't like.

 

[Walter]

Both Pope Francis and Obama are leftists.

Everyone knows about Obama's connections to the US Communist Party through Frank Marshall Davis, a former Chicagoan who mentored Obama in Hawaii, and everyone knows how those connections to Chicago formed the basis for Obama's friends and political allies in Chicago, where Obama attended a Garvey black liberation theology church.

Pope Francis, from Peronist Argentina also is a believer in liberation theology, considered to be the brainchild of the KGB who wanted to sucker Christians into thinking that communism and Christianity are the same thing. Cuban dissidents say that Pope Francis is a Peronist--Peron being an Argentine dictator with Italian roots (like many in Argentina). Peron travelled to Italy and wanted to introduce socialistic government into Argentina such as he observed in Mussolini. So you can say that Peronists are socialists modelled after Fascism.

Pope Francis immediately began to overthrow the works of Pope John Paul II who had defrocked and reprimanded many communistic priests in Latin America. Pope Francis has re-instated those priests and accepted, as you know, a crucifix from the President of Bolivia, Evo Morales, a full-blooded Indian cocaine grower and narcotrafficer ally of Castro--this crucifix showing Jesus crucified on the hammer and sickle of communism.

The Pope apparently is planning to lecture Americans on allowing more Latinos into our "evil" country. The Catholic Bishops have many empty churches and they want gullible Latinos to fill the pews even if it further empties the pews in Latin America, where Catholicism is on the decline as it is worldwide.

The Pope probably wants to lecture Americans on giving more dollars to the Vatican, which is always broke because of the expense of maintaining a huge palace filled with centuries of artifacts that must be maintained and guarded, not to mention the cost of the papacy itself which is expensive like ancient royalty--the papacy having been considered a kingship until the 20th century.

Finally, the Pope intends to visit the Castros in Cuba where the Catholic Church has said that Cuban Protestants are scum and that Cuban dissidents in the 300 prisons of Cuba are not welcome in the Catholic Church. With all of South America and Central America in political and economic collapse due to socialism, it is unlikely that Pope Francis will have any words of comfort for common people in Latin America.

Pope Francis never saw a dictator that he didn't like.

I read your post with interest. However, I am not sure where you are getting your facts from. The Catholic Church is NOT in decline worldwide, it is growing by leaps and bounds and surpassed 1 billion Catholic Christians. In Africa, Latin America and China the Church or growing much faster than any Protestant church. In the United States the Catholic Church is still growing despite the sex scandals of the past. And the overall effect of immigration is far less than most people assume. In my parish there is a significant number of people-filling our packed pews- who are 'reverts' to the Church. Probably 20 to 25% of the people coming to my church had at one time left the Catholic Church for a Protestant one only to return to the Church after study. Sure there are churches in parts of the U.S. that have had to close because of changing demographics but here in the West we can't build churches fast enough. There are churches in some cities that have loud speaker outside the church building so the overflow can at least hear.

 

[poncho]

Do you remember this? http://www.catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id=51077

I was reading through the paper and came across an article about the pope and how his actions have served to drive a deep wedge between himself and conservative Catholics, especially conservative Catholics in the US! https://www.catholicvote.org/conservative-catholics-does-pope-francis-make-you-grumpy/

Do you get the feeling that Obama and Francis are cut from the same cloth?

Do you have the power to make a change here?

https://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2256575&postcount=28

What's your solution?

 

[righteousdude2]

Do you have the power to make a change here?

https://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2256575&postcount=28

What's your solution?

You go first; you seem to have all the answers and solutions! You already know my view, so why press? Or, are you just trying to be sarcastic and provocative? :laugh:

BTW - sarcasm and self pity --"I used the word "hypocrite" once. I got a permanent 10 point infraction for it. You shouldn't have to worry about it though. You aren't me" AND MORE OF THE SAME? "some other's are using that same word in your forum today but I'm not going to report them for it. I learned my lesson about asking you for help and learned it well." -- do not become you!

 

[poncho]

You go first; you seem to have all the answers and solutions! You already know my view, so why press? Or, are you just trying to be sarcastic and provocative? :laugh:

BTW - sarcasm and self pity --"I used the word "hypocrite" once. I got a permanent 10 point infraction for it. You shouldn't have to worry about it though. You aren't me" AND MORE OF THE SAME? "some other's are using that same word in your forum today but I'm not going to report them for it. I learned my lesson about asking you for help and learned it well." -- do not become you!

Which of your views are you talking about? You have conflicting views sometimes in the same paragraph.

How do you expect me to know what your view is when you don't know what it is? The only consistent view I've seen come from you is "me conservative, you liberal". I reckon it wouldn't be that hard for me to figure out what view you'll have on any given day by watching a few hours of Fox News and listening to GOP pundits issue the daily talking points but I'm just to busy with real issues, chasing facts, finding documented evidence and forming my own views for all that.

Telling the truth doesn't become me, is that what your saying? I can make a pretty good guess where you're getting that from, the mainstream consensus again right?

Having a guardian angle on BB willing to overlook his own rules on your behalf should make you feel empowered. Being in the group of group thinkers has it's advantages apparently.

Why don't you post a nice big silly image now to support your view, that's what the consensus people do isn't it?

And just so you know, I didn't report you for using the "H" word. Not that anything will come of it anyway. Your special. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[righteousdude2]

Which of your views are you talking about? You have conflicting views sometimes in the same paragraph.

How do you expect me to know what your view is when you don't know what it is? The only consistent view I've seen come from you is "me conservative, you liberal". I reckon it wouldn't be that hard for me to figure out what view you'll have on any given day by watching a few hours of Fox News and listening to GOP pundits issue the daily talking points but I'm just to busy with real issues, chasing facts, finding documented evidence and forming my own views for all that.

Telling the truth doesn't become me, is that what your saying? I can make a pretty good guess where you're getting that from, the mainstream consensus again right?

Having a guardian angle on BB willing to overlook his own rules on your behalf should make you feel empowered. Being in the group of group thinkers has it's advantages apparently. :smilewinkgrin:

Why don't you post a nice big silly image now to support your view, that's what the consensus people do isn't it?

And just so you know, I didn't report you for using the "H" word. Not that anything will come of it anyway.

You are pathetic ... if you want to call me names, fine. You are not sucking me into your pity party.

As for the "h" word, the context I used it in was not spiritually. It was in his refusal to answer others, but demanding others answer him. I probably should have called him sanctimonious. But that has a spiritual tone. I believe it is the tone used, and you tone is always confrontational, provoking and quite outlandish.

I try to carry on a conversation with you, but no matter what I say, you turn it into something different, like the person I used the "h" word go describe his failure to do as he tells others to do.

I am clear about one thing ponch, and that is you are not a social person. But with your radical views, maybe that works for you. I am placing you on permanent IGNORE, which is like claiming Ichabod over you as a brother. I had hoped we could be brothers and act civilly towards one another, but your continued goading makes that next to impossible. God bless, and happy hunting! :tonofbricks:

 

[poncho]

You are pathetic ... if you want to call me names, fine. You are not sucking me into your pity party.

As for the "h" word, the context I used it in was not spiritually. It was in his refusal to answer others, but demanding others answer him. I probably should have called him sanctimonious. But that has a spiritual tone. I believe it is the tone used, and you tone is always confrontational, provoking and quite outlandish.

I try to carry on a conversation with you, but no matter what I say, you turn it into something different, like the person I used the "h" word go describe his failure to do as he tells others to do.

I am clear about one thing ponch, and that is you are not a social person. But with your radical views, maybe that works for you. I am placing you on permanent IGNORE, which is like claiming Ichabod over you as a brother. I had hoped we could be brothers and act civilly towards one another, but your continued goading makes that next to impossible. God bless, and happy hunting! :tonofbricks:

Oh stop it, nobody called you any names.

I wasn't aware there were special circumstances that would allow the use of the "H" word. Nobody told me and I asked, a couple different mods a couple different times.

My radical view.

Stop dropping bombs and causing destructive civil wars in other countries to stop the mass migrations from those countries. WE do have power to make change.

Versus your sensible view.

Trash talk democrats and blame "bleeding heart liberals" for all our problems. WE"RE all so powerless.

I'm as social as the next guy but I'm not going to sit here and take what you dish out. No matter what you say to me it's always condescending and petty and I already know what asking the mods for help with condescending petty posters that like to make fun and toss insults my way is going to get me.

And then you cry big crocodile tears and blame it all on me when you get a taste of your own medicine.

Poor little petty condescending RD2 nobody understands you. :tear:

Aw shucks I had to go and defend myself again. I don't think I'm allowed to do that either.

Well, it was nice talking to y'all again. I'm probably gonna be in the dog house now. :wavey:

Oh yeah and if you ever want to get the real news, go to prisonplanet.com, infowars.com, washintonsblog.com, landdestroyer.blogspot.com and zerohedge.com Some of the most prolific posters on this board visit prisonplanet.com and infowars.com but you'll never see or hear any of them admit it. I guess they're to embarrassed about it.

Pull your heads out of the false left vs right paradigm get informed and don't let the neocons and their army of government and media mocking birds scare monger you into being stupid and giving up more of your rights and liberties.

 

[church mouse guy]

I read your post with interest. However, I am not sure where you are getting your facts from. The Catholic Church is NOT in decline worldwide, it is growing by leaps and bounds and surpassed 1 billion Catholic Christians. In Africa, Latin America and China the Church or growing much faster than any Protestant church. In the United States the Catholic Church is still growing despite the sex scandals of the past. And the overall effect of immigration is far less than most people assume. In my parish there is a significant number of people-filling our packed pews- who are 'reverts' to the Church. Probably 20 to 25% of the people coming to my church had at one time left the Catholic Church for a Protestant one only to return to the Church after study. Sure there are churches in parts of the U.S. that have had to close because of changing demographics but here in the West we can't build churches fast enough. There are churches in some cities that have loud speaker outside the church building so the overflow can at least hear.

Okay, maybe it is just the Americas that are in decline. And migration to the USA will cause Latin American membership to drop even more. Cuba, for example, is a state church that is expelling Catholics such as the Ladies in White because they are related to political prisoners.

USA Today published at the end of last year that Latin American membership declined about 20% to only 69% of the population. Amazing considering that Catholicism in Latin America does not allow for freedom of conscience.

In just one generation, Latin America has seen the number of people who identify themselves as Catholic plummet, with more people becoming Protestant or dropping religion altogether, a new report shows.

The shift is dramatic for a region that has long been one of the bastions of Catholicism in the world. With more than 425 million Catholics, Latin America accounts for nearly 40% of the global Catholic population. Through the 1960s, at least 90% of Latin Americans were Catholic, and 84% of people surveyed recently by the Pew Research Center said they were raised Catholic.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/11/13/latin-america-less-religious-study/18946703/

 

[Salty]

I had hoped we could be brothers and act civilly towards one another, but your continued goading makes that next to impossible. God bless, and happy hunting! :tonofbricks:

But isnt that how a lot of brothers act towards each other:smilewinkgrin:


CAV rules!

 

[righteousdude2]

But isnt that how a lot of brothers act towards each other:smilewinkgrin:


CAV rules!

Sadly, this is true more often then it should be, especially here. There is a group who love to gang up on members, and it comes down to the "old Christian clique" syndrome. They try to push you into a fight; and in my case, they love to bring up past posts (where I know I got too emotional and said things that were wrong). However, they won't let you forget it your past sins. This is not what Jesus would do.

In my case, it takes help from God, to not let them get to me. It is a real shame, Salty, as their behavior lacks resemblance to WJWD. Shalom!

Oh yeah, Cav does rule. You guys were bad a$$es! Charlie knew when your choppers were dropping to take the fight to them. :thumbs:

 

[Bro. James]

The wonderful world of apostasy is making another full circle--some call it ecumenism.

Speaking of the latest adventures of the holy see: some say the popes since Vatican II are apostate usurpers including the present papa. This also includes the one on emeritus sabbatical. What was Benedict fleeing?

Overflowing cathedrals could also mean brainwashing is hard to overcome.

How many cathedrals have closed because they are bankrupt from paying too much hush money and legal settlements? This may explain the apparent shortage of pew space.

Bottom line: the holy see is either authentically true or authentically false. If true, we should all join them as the authorized version. If false, what are we doing having anything to do with such things?

"Come out from among them sayeth The Lord; touch not the unclean thing".

True Baptists have never been a part of Rome, Wittenburg, Geneva, Paris, Canterbury or Nauvoo; nor anything else founded by man/woman.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James