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evangelist6589

evangelist6589

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I do not know what all these churches teach but I just met a believer from the church here in Denver who is as sound as they get. Affirmed the essentials of the faith and did not deny the trinity nor the divine Christ. Affirmed the authority of all the Bible, the reality of Hell, salvation by grace, justification by faith, and such.

I know that they have some false teachings in the WOF message but what I cannot say is that all attenders in these churches are following another gospel.

Or perhaps the person I spoke with did not know fully what they teach.
 
SovereignGrace

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evangelist6589 said:
I do not know what all these churches teach but I just met a believer from the church here in Denver who is as sound as they get. Affirmed the essentials of the faith and did not deny the trinity nor the divine Christ. Affirmed the authority of all the Bible, the reality of Hell, salvation by grace, justification by faith, and such.

I know that they have some false teachings in the WOF message but what I cannot say is that all attenders in these churches are following another gospel.

Or perhaps the person I spoke with did not know fully what they teach.
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If they are that which you say, they will eventually leave. I have read Mr. Jakes was a modalist. Any truth to this?
 
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I once heard TD Jakes say in a sermon "God doesn't care about every detail of your life". I think TD Jakes is a false prophet along the line of Joel Osteen.I would avoid him. And unless he has changed, he does not believe in an orthodox trinitarian view.
 
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Van

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Is the Potter's house in Denver affiliated with the Potter's House in Dallas, where T.D. Jakes holds sway?
 
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Don

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evangelist6589 said:
Yes unfortunately. However I cannot say that every single soul in the church is lost.
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Same thing can be said for pretty much any denomination.

I used to joke that there are saved people in Catholic churches; they just haven't visited a Baptist church yet....
 
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Van

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Yes, I too believe there are many born anew siblings in Catholic and Reformed churches, they may hold bogus doctrines, but their faith and devotion to Christ is as deep or deeper than our own.
 
evangelist6589

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Van said:
Yes, I too believe there are many born anew siblings in Catholic and Reformed churches, they may hold bogus doctrines, but their faith and devotion to Christ is as deep or deeper than our own.
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Bogus doctrines in Reformed churches? Van you are asking for trouble making slanderous comments like this.
 
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Van

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Not too put too fine a point on it but I was addressing doctrine, not individuals. You on the other hand addressed me personally. And I have demonstrated time and time again Reformed (TULI) doctrine is unbiblical. Care to review?
1) Total Spiritual Inability is mistaken doctrine, as demonstrated by Matthew 23:13 where unregenerate people were in the process of entering the kingdom, before they were blocked.
2) Unconditional Election is mistaken doctrine, as demonstrated by 2 Thessalonians 2:13 where God chooses individuals for salvation through faith in the truth.
3) Limited Atonement is mistaken doctrine, as demonstrated by 1 John 2:2 where Christ became the propitiation (means of salvation) for the whole world, fallen mankind.
4) Irresistible Grace is mistaken doctrine as demonstrated by Matthew 23:13 where people were in the process of entering the kingdom before they were blocked, thus the grace was resistible.
 
evangelist6589

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Van said:
Not too put too fine a point on it but I was addressing doctrine, not individuals. You on the other hand addressed me personally. And I have demonstrated time and time again Reformed (TULI) doctrine is unbiblical. Care to review?
1) Total Spiritual Inability is mistaken doctrine, as demonstrated by Matthew 23:13 where unregenerate people were in the process of entering the kingdom, before they were blocked.
2) Unconditional Election is mistaken doctrine, as demonstrated by 2 Thessalonians 2:13 where God chooses individuals for salvation through faith in the truth.
3) Limited Atonement is mistaken doctrine, as demonstrated by 1 John 2:2 where Christ became the propitiation (means of salvation) for the whole world, fallen mankind.
4) Irresistible Grace is mistaken doctrine as demonstrated by Matthew 23:13 where people were in the process of entering the kingdom before they were blocked, thus the grace was resistible.
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Oh I get so tired of debating and debating these issues with people like you who have a closed mind. I've had a belly full.
 
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