The President Is Not Above the Law

[Bunyon]

BTW, there is a good article in a magazine I was reading today. It was about how tere are all of these Islamic web sites advocating jihad and how all these folks are responding to them. They may not even be a formal part of the terrorist oganization and they well act on the web sites.

Now you now why we have to scan all communications.

 

[KenH]

Care to provide some of these websites, Bunyon, or is this just more stuff made up in your own mind like your "poll" of Muslims?

 

[OldRegular]

Apparently you are above the law Ken since this thead is well past the 10 page limit. Could it be the moderators cut some slack for the Bush Bashing threads?

 

[Bunyon]

"Care to provide some of these websites, Bunyon, or is this just more stuff made up in your own mind like your "poll" of Muslims?"----------------------------------------------------------------

What is your problem Ken? Are you afraid of the truth. By the way, you are being uncharacteristically petty by bringing the Poll thing over here. I left the magazine at work. I'll bring it home tomorrow an give you the info. I am really surprised at your pettiness.

 

[KenH]

Just provide the websites, Bunyon. I want to see them for myself. I am sure not going to trust you.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Ken,

He said he would post it tomorrow. Although, I am confident this thread will be closed by then (Perhaps he can start a new thread and post it there), let's give him the benefit of the doubt on this one that he will.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[Bunyon]

"let's give him the benefit of the doubt on this one that he will."-------------------------------

Stop being petty, Joseph. You don't fool me or intimidate me with your modus operandi of demanding that every ones opinion be backed with a poll. I would advise you to be more Christian in your approach to your fellow Christians. You have given many opinions about our Country and its founding fathers and citizens that you did not back up with a poll. But I did not get petty with you. I'll post the info for you when I have the magazine. Did you think I was lying, KenH, when I told you that I left it at work and would bring it home tomorrow?

 

[Bunyon]

"I am sure not going to trust you."---------------------------------------------------------------

I have never said anything like that to either of you. I am not really sure about you two anymore, seems you are too quick to revert to personal attacks and innuendo.

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by Bunyon:
Did you think I was lying, KenH, when I told you that I left it at work and would bring it home tomorrow?

Nope. Just emphasizing the point.

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by Bunyon:
I am not really sure about you two anymore, seems you are too quick to revert to personal attacks and innuendo.

Yeah, I know. And you are as pure as the wind driven snow, Bunyon. Yes, I know, I know.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Bunyon,

I was taking up for you here. When I make an opinion about my country, its founders, or anything, I will back it up with some data from history, or I will simply state it is my opinion. I do not, however, like you did, make up some phony number out of the air, and pass it off as fact. You are the one who did that. For example, when I state that we were not founded on Christian principles, I will point to the fact that our founders legalized and profited on the abomination which was slavery. I don't need a poll for that. It is pretty evident right there in the Original form of the Constitution. You, on the other hand, made up a phony number out of the air, and passed it off as fact:

Perhaps, but 90+ percent of them want Israel to disappear and resent our involvement with Israel.

Bunyon's phony data

When you were asked to back up your assertion, you got upset. That is because all you have is hate and prejudice to back it up with.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[Bunyon]

No I think I have just as much evidence to believe that most middle eastern Muslims want Isreal gone and resent our involvement as you do in your negitive opinion of our founding. But you demanded Poll data not the reasons for my opinion. In fact I think it is the majority opinion, but you assume we all just make it up out of nothing. You guys are being petty. You could have disagreed with me in an honorable way, but you chose not to. Now I think the Christian thing to do is drop it. It is unseemly for Christians to get personal in a debate as you guys have.

I am confident that most folks see your belittling and unsudry tacitcs for what they are, even if they don't agree with me. So you guys have gotten a lot of personal stuff in there. It really would be best if we dropped it now, in the intrest of our faith.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Originally posted by Bunyon:
No I think I have just as much evidence to believe that most middle eastern Muslims want Isreal gone and resent our involvement as you do in your negitive opinion of our founding. But you demanded Poll data not the reasons for my opinion. In fact I think it is the majority opinion, but you assume we all just make it up out of nothing.

You did make up a phony number. 90%. You have nothing to substantiate that number except for your own hatefilled, prejudice opinion.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[Daisy]

Originally posted by church mouse guy:
The Democrats gutted the CIA...

They legislated against some of the worst abuses, but that had to do with assassinations, overthrowing governments and torture, not information gathering.

...and that is why we were caught flat-footed when India denonated the atomic bomb and we were caught flat-footed on Iraq...

Eh? Iraq consulted with us before they invaded Kuwait, so what are you talking about? (They had no part in Nine Eleven).

... and on Nine Eleven.

I'm not convinced that that was an intelligence failure or a failure to heed intelligence.

It takes years to build a good intelligence network. We had the best one in the world and our reliance on other countries after Frank Church proved to be a disaster.

We relied on other countries' to counter our own, rather foolishly, imho.

 

[Phillip]

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