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[General Mung Beans]

Keep barking up the Bush tree all you want. However you should know I was not his fan.

That's fine (I personally think President Bush wasn't a complete disaster as a President), my point is that President Obama was reelected by a fairly comfortable margin, compared to previous Presidents.

 

[preachinjesus]

That makes a total of one!

OR, you need to seriously start making sense in your replies if you want folks to take you seriously. If you look back to post-WW2 you'll see similiar results for many elections. I wasn't around then but would support any President with a similiar result as has just occurred.

If we are to be intellectually honest we must admit that there are seasons when one party has done better than others. We cannot claim that Ronald Reagan had a mandate in 1980 and then say Barak Obama does not after 2012. The results are nearly the same.

The only President in recent history (since 1900) that hasn't won the popular vote by plurality is George W Bush in 2000. I don't think anyone can say he had a mandate after that election. However, you can say that he obtained one after 2004.

I'm not an apologist for President Obama, nor President Bush, but we must be intellectually honest when discussing the facts. You might not like that President Obama won this election (I've said that I don't think it mattered who won since both candidates were essentially the same) but you must admit that his victory was significant and that should command some respect. Elections have results, one of them for Christians should be that it makes us honest.

 

[preachinjesus]

1% on the popular vote is not a huge win.
61% on the electoral college is simply a symptom of a broken system.


Especially with the countless reports of fraud....that the MSM and liberal shills ignore.

Please, that is no mandate. It is a victory for Obama and the liberal agenda to destroy the US....but not a mandate.

Them please show me what President since WW2 had a mandate.

The rest of your points are as hoc criticisms and red herrings. Please stay on task and use logical argumentation.

 

[OldRegular]

OR, you need to seriously start making sense in your replies if you want folks to take you seriously. If you look back to post-WW2 you'll see similiar results for many elections. I wasn't around then but would support any President with a similiar result as has just occurred.

If we are to be intellectually honest we must admit that there are seasons when one party has done better than others. We cannot claim that Ronald Reagan had a mandate in 1980 and then say Barak Obama does not after 2012. The results are nearly the same.

The only President in recent history (since 1900) that hasn't won the popular vote by plurality is George W Bush in 2000. I don't think anyone can say he had a mandate after that election. However, you can say that he obtained one after 2004.

I'm not an apologist for President Obama, nor President Bush, but we must be intellectually honest when discussing the facts. You might not like that President Obama won this election (I've said that I don't think it mattered who won since both candidates were essentially the same) but you must admit that his victory was significant and that should command some respect. Elections have results, one of them for Christians should be that it makes us honest.

I have absolutely zero respect for Obama. He is supremely arrogant. He is a Marxist and is pushing his Marxist agenda. He is a narcissist. Worst of all he is the supreme leader of the abortion loving democrat party!

 

[preachinjesus]

Okay, so dispute the data evidenced in this thread. Move beyond your dislike of the man and deal with the data. That is the evidence of a reasonable intellect which is useful to others.

 

[saturneptune]

Them please show me what President since WW2 had a mandate.

The rest of your points are as hoc criticisms and red herrings. Please stay on task and use logical argumentation.

Richard Nixon in 1972 won 49 states, 61% of the vote, and over 500 electoral votes. In 1984, Ronald Reagan won 62% of the vote, 49 states, and over 500 electoral votes. In 1964, President Johnson won 44 states, 60% of the vote, and over 450 electoral votes. What level do you think should be reached before it is called a mandate?

In addition to the above elections, lesser but convicing elections were won by the Republicans in 52, 56, 80, and 88, 2008, and 2012. Democrats won convincing margins in 48, 92, and 96. The elections that were even near close were 60, 68, 76, 2000, and 2004.

How can you possibly say there have been no mandates since WW2? There are many more mandates than close elections. Is it because that leftist mandates seem quite rare?

 

[poncho]

Okay, so dispute the data evidenced in this thread. Move beyond your dislike of the man and deal with the data. That is the evidence of a reasonable intellect which is useful to others.

Here's some data that might be useful.

Obama won 99% of the vote in 100 precincts in Ohio.

Perhaps if there were just one or two precincts where Obama got more than 99% of the vote we could dismiss the results as “statistical anomalies” and ignore them.

But there were more than 100 precincts where this happened in the most important swing state in the nation.

Maybe there is some rational explanation for the numbers that you are about to see. If there is, I would really love to hear it.

 

[Revmitchell]

No such thing as a Presidential mandate. Obama was not the only one elected. Our government was not set up that any one single branch should just get their way unchecked . This mandate is a myth and contrary to our constitution.

 

[Jack Matthews]

I have absolutely zero respect for Obama. He is supremely arrogant. He is a Marxist and is pushing his Marxist agenda. He is a narcissist. Worst of all he is the supreme leader of the abortion loving democrat party!

Reforming the tax codes to bring it in line with where it has been for most of the country's existence, and proposing health care finance reform, with the suggestion that health care is a basic human right, and as such, falls outside the parameters of market driven economics does not make someone a Marxist. And I doubt that you've ever been close enough to the President personally to even be in a position to judge whether he is arrogant or narcissistic. The last three Republican presidents had more than enough opportunity to make sure that a Supreme Court that would overturn Roe v. Wade, and thus end abortion on demand, could have been appointed, and they refused to do so, which is convincing evidence that they, too, love abortion and want to see it continue because their political success depends on it. This is America, and America constitutionally and legitimately elected President Obama twice. If you are not willing to live here when things don't go your way politically, move somewhere else. Give Mexico a try. Or maybe you could get one of your rich, tax dodging friends in the Cayman Islands a visit for a while.

 

[Revmitchell]

And I doubt that you've ever been close enough to the President personally to even be in a position to judge whether he is arrogant or narcissistic.

We have all been close enough. Every time he gets on TV he drips of it.

The last three Republican presidents had more than enough opportunity to make sure that a Supreme Court that would overturn Roe v. Wade, and thus end abortion on demand, could have been appointed, and they refused to do so, which is convincing evidence that they, too, love abortion and want to see it continue because their political success depends on it.

Quite the delusion there.

This is America, and America constitutionally and legitimately elected President Obama twice. If you are not willing to live here when things don't go your way politically, move somewhere else. Give Mexico a try. Or maybe you could get one of your rich, tax dodging friends in the Cayman Islands a visit for a while.

Or we can stand tall when the constitution is breached and speak out as is our right as Americans. We know beyond any doubt liberals (like yourself) want to silence opposition. But it isn't going to happen. Maybe you should head to Mexico to get some relief.

 

[OldRegular]

Here's some data that might be useful.

Obama won 99% of the vote in 100 precincts in Ohio.

Perhaps if there were just one or two precincts where Obama got more than 99% of the vote we could dismiss the results as “statistical anomalies” and ignore them.

But there were more than 100 precincts where this happened in the most important swing state in the nation.

Maybe there is some rational explanation for the numbers that you are about to see. If there is, I would really love to hear it.

The only surprising thing is that he only got 99% of the vote. I suspect that in some precincts he got well over 100% of the vote!

 

[OldRegular]

Reforming the tax codes to bring it in line with where it has been for most of the country's existence, and proposing health care finance reform, with the suggestion that health care is a basic human right, and as such, falls outside the parameters of market driven economics does not make someone a Marxist.

His policies are Marxist. He has demonstrated his intent to bankrupt the country.

And I doubt that you've ever been close enough to the President personally to even be in a position to judge whether he is arrogant or narcissistic.

His arrogance is obvious to anyone who watches him lecture his adoring crowds!

The last three Republican presidents had more than enough opportunity to make sure that a Supreme Court that would overturn Roe v. Wade, and thus end abortion on demand, could have been appointed, and they refused to do so, which is convincing evidence that they, too, love abortion and want to see it continue because their political success depends on it.

The democrat Senate Borked Bork and tried to Bork Thomas but he outsmarted them!

Presidents never know how their appointments will behave unless they appoint ideologues like the three women on the court. Rabid abortionists all!

This is America, and America constitutionally and legitimately elected President Obama twice.

That is still up for debate!

If you are not willing to live here when things don't go your way politically, move somewhere else.

I regret that I only have one life to give for my country. Something you leftists don't understand. Some of us love our Constitutional Republic and don't want it to be converted to a third rate socialist state like you leftists apparently do.

Give Mexico a try.

If I live long enough and democrats continue to control the Federal Government we will be Mexico!

Or maybe you could get one of your rich, tax dodging friends in the Cayman Islands a visit for a while.

You are showing your ignorance. Most of the wealth in the country is controlled by democrats!

 

[pinoybaptist]

This is America, and America constitutionally and legitimately elected President Obama twice.

I'll hand him the first one, but this last one ? right now, as far as I'm concerned he's a fraud president. not only that, he is a derelict president. he was derelict of his duty to protect those who serve under him, derelict of his duty to uphold the sovereignty of the United States of America when he allowed the attack on Benghazi, and until he is able to prove that he ABSOLUTELY did everything to prevent the deaths of the Benghazi four, and by EVIDENCE brought out by an undebatably INDEPENDENT accountability probe that he had NOTHING at all to do with ordering the stand down on the rescue of the four Americans, he is a suspected MURDERER.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I'll hand him the first one, but this last one ? right now, as far as I'm concerned he's a fraud president. not only that, he is a derelict president. he was derelict of his duty to protect those who serve under him, derelict of his duty to uphold the sovereignty of the United States of America when he allowed the attack on Benghazi, and until he is able to prove that he ABSOLUTELY did everything to prevent the deaths of the Benghazi four, and by EVIDENCE brought out by an undebatably INDEPENDENT accountability probe that he had NOTHING at all to do with ordering the stand down on the rescue of the four Americans, he is a suspected MURDERER.

Thank you!:thumbs:

 

[Jack Matthews]

Keep living in your fantasyland. The Democrats just handed you a tax cut that your dear darling adoring Republicans refused to vote for, preferring to give it to the billionaires.

But don't let facts invade your la la land. Keep up your whining and lip flapping. It makes it easier for our side to win elections.

 

[poncho]

Keep living in your fantasyland. The Democrats just handed you a tax cut that your dear darling adoring Republicans refused to vote for, preferring to give it to the billionaires.

But don't let facts invade your la la land. Keep up your whining and lip flapping. It makes it easier for our side to win elections.

The fact is Jack. It took both parties to run us into bankruptcy. One side is no better than the other. Both sides lie. "Your side" just has more propaganda outlets (MSM) in which to spread it's lies that's all.