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The Primitive Churches
- Thread starter Martin Marprelate
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^ @David Lamb ^ Martin is prying/seeking for an occasion against the Primitive Baptists. Just as his predecessor Andrew Fuller did to the Gillites. Marthas complain against the Marys
I've been a member of the Old Baptists since 1982 and never once have I heard about the 'opposition of the free offer of the gospel'. Anyone who visits an Old Baptist Church will hear the gospel, guaranteed.
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Martin is wrong if that is his point. If I were to go into my particular church which teaches eternal grace, election and regeneration and were to hear that those things that are in the scriptures are not to be stressed…that Adams sins do not pass to the children, that election is unfair to the reprobate, then I’d wonder if I had been transported to some modern religion hellhole and look to leave it as quickly as I could. And let’s fast forward to today to see what modern religion has done to a church that once operated scripturally. I have visited with my local UMC church recently because my wife wants to claim a church community as her own and was completely disgusted by my finding….in a word they are apostate. Very few or any scriptural reading ( in fact no picking up a Bible and nobody carries in a Bible) the place is run by woke women who embrace homosexuality, in fact one of them is openly gay, they do a men’s Bible study on Saturday morning using text written by a non believer and when I pointed it out the response by the guy running it was “so what!”
Really, this place has devolved to a woke clubhouse…and it’s really sad, it’s become an apostate community center for non believers because anyone who is a regenerate born again would have nothing to do with them. Conversly my PB churches in Florida are gospel rich and centered, full of people being taught scriptures and then teaching their children so they could grow up honoring God.
DaveXR650
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That makes it hard to understand your other posts, and @Earth Wind and Fire, and the links you guys put up regarding Fuller. Qualify your statements. Don't post outrageous stuff and then attack someone who takes you to task on it. All people can go on is what you post, and the links you post.
FYI, he's not a Primitive Baptist.
You have no intention of 'understanding'.
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I don't have a point. I thought it would be good to let Andrew Fuller speak after you and @Earth Wind and Fire had been slagging the poor fellow off without ever giving him a chance to say anything. I know nothing whatsoever about the 'Primitive Baptists' other than what I have heard from you two, and what you have told me of your views, which I had supposed were typical. I am not aware of a 'Primitive Baptist' denomination ever existing in Britain, though there was once a grouping called 'Primitive Methodists.'
If I did have a point it would be to say that the earliest (primitive?) Baptists in Britain were highly evangelistic, and that is why they grew so quickly.
I am delighted to hear it. Are people exhorted to come to Christ (Acts 16:31) or are they told it's only for the 'elect'? That's like someone describing a delicious meal to a starving man and then telling him that he can't have it. I'm asking because I don't know the answer.
Again, you need to get your facts straight. The post that upset you sooooo much was made by an anti-Primitive Baptist, and the author of the article is NOT a Primitive Baptist.
FYI, he's not a Primitive Baptist.
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So you don’t reference subject matter on Google…surely you can’t be serious, or is it you don’t like apposing points of view? I’m sure that Marty could fill you in on Fullers activities with saving people from The throws of Hypercalvinism. So how did he do that… go ask Martysince he verified it by his claim. But since I’m not a Calvinist, I have no need of saving. What my church has promised me is there complete support in planting and or reestablishing dying churches up here in the Northeast… so do you consider that charitable, Christian and do you consider that missionary?
30 | and brought them out and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? |
31 | And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus, and thou shalt be saved, thou and thy house. |
Anyone who inquires in this manner, or visits a church for answers, is almost certainly 'elect', and alive.
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No,no,no…you are starving them to death most assuredly LOL. ( did Jacob Arminias just enter the building) !?!
But seriously, what is the definition of a Reprobate? Let’s just dive into the “MARROW” of the matter. First, do we understand the Doctrine of Total Depravity (and did Andrew Fuller believe in it. Indeed, Fuller claimed himself a Calvinist, so what was his gripe with the Doctrine's of Grace? Where did he get the is beliefs and then promote them to Calvinist churches? What must the faithful members of those churches must have thought… God, does that get factored in?
So will David require proof of that? LMAO
Bingo
See this really has nothing to do with Andrew Fuller….it has everything to do with the destruction of the doctrines of Grace. Fuller was only the agent to begin the process of toning it down to where humanism enters the picture. Thus you see the elimination of key doctrines that Christian’s define themselves by. Now there is no such thing as total depravity, see that’s unfair to the human , and if not responsible for the sin character then all are capable of salvation ( sure, just emulate Christ sinless life)… and on an on it goes. Now there is no uniformity,rather there is a thousand churches all claiming Christ, mostly without His help.
DaveXR650
Well-Known Member
None of the posts upset me but what I was referring to was the post in the other thread on this subject, your post #44 where you posted a Primitive Baptist elder who extensively quoted Ella. So you should take that up with him. Do you even read the stuff you link to?
DaveXR650
Well-Known Member
The stuff you guys, and Alan posted on the other thread claimed the gospel of Fuller was false and blasphemous. The article by Ella, both him and the extensive quotes from him by the PM elder, elaborated on the perceived errors of Fuller. I stand by what I said. Everyone can read it for themselves.
DaveXR650
Well-Known Member
@Earth Wind and Fire. Is this true? Then could you explain what is going on?
This pattern is always the same with you. You post ridiculous and incoherent things, then descend into crudity.
Your PB churches? One or both of you are nuts.
Maybe it’s you that is nuts….and I haven’t begun to get crude yet but stay tuned. But just for clarity, just what is your true convictions….ive heard Fundimentalist, I’ve heard your love of certain Puritans, you stated you like or is it like John Wesley? You appear a voyager from one persons convictions to another. Are we interrupting a possible love affair with Andrew Fuller now? As far as I’m concerned you have a very pattern of someone unhinged from reality… so please clarify yourself or take a hike.