"But Luke 15:10-32 is linked with Isaiah 7:14-16, the rebel but lawful son of GOD, not by adoption-John 1:12-13, take a look." [From the prior thread]
Just my two cents:
The parable of the Prodigal Son, found in Luke 15:10-32 is all about repentance, and the joy it brings to God and His angels.
I have no idea just what the contrary view is, a link was provided, rather than a brief statement of position. However, guessing from what was posted, the contrary view has no basis in scripture.
1) Is there "linkage" between Isaiah 7:14-16 and Luke 15:10-32? I believe the Isaiah passage is a prophecy about the coming Messiah, Jesus. Now it might have been one of those double edged prophecies, where there was a near term Old Covenant application, and a long term New Covenant application. That is above my pay grade.
2) I made no mention of "adoption" because "adoption" only refers to our bodily redemption at Christ's second coming. However, the "prodigal son" in Luke is indeed a beloved "son" of the earthly father. The issue is how to apply this parable to our spiritual rebirth as a child of God.
3) Note that the parable son turns away from his father, comes to his senses, and when he returns says I have sinned against you. That points to one of the lost, not to someone who has been born anew.
4) John 1:12-13 does indeed also teach that someone lost, first comes to their senses and puts their love and devotion upon God, and believe. And only then, after believing, are they given the right to become children of God and are then born anew.
Just my two cents:
The parable of the Prodigal Son, found in Luke 15:10-32 is all about repentance, and the joy it brings to God and His angels.
I have no idea just what the contrary view is, a link was provided, rather than a brief statement of position. However, guessing from what was posted, the contrary view has no basis in scripture.
1) Is there "linkage" between Isaiah 7:14-16 and Luke 15:10-32? I believe the Isaiah passage is a prophecy about the coming Messiah, Jesus. Now it might have been one of those double edged prophecies, where there was a near term Old Covenant application, and a long term New Covenant application. That is above my pay grade.
2) I made no mention of "adoption" because "adoption" only refers to our bodily redemption at Christ's second coming. However, the "prodigal son" in Luke is indeed a beloved "son" of the earthly father. The issue is how to apply this parable to our spiritual rebirth as a child of God.
3) Note that the parable son turns away from his father, comes to his senses, and when he returns says I have sinned against you. That points to one of the lost, not to someone who has been born anew.
4) John 1:12-13 does indeed also teach that someone lost, first comes to their senses and puts their love and devotion upon God, and believe. And only then, after believing, are they given the right to become children of God and are then born anew.
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