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The question of footwashing.

37818

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Opps - forgot to mention one thing - some baptists beleive in
three ordinances - would be feet washing.

Here is the deal. If Jesus instituted footwashing as an observance to be keep, then it is a Baptist teaching all who call themselves Baptist should observe.

Issue, none of 26 books teach it. There are 27 books. And there are more issues against that view of footwashing being an instituted obverance. It's only supposed support is the teaching Jesus taught doing it.

I am persuaded that the notion of footwashing as an ordance to be observed is not Baptist.
 

tyndale1946

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Get it right. There's two. It's FEET washing.

Feet washer here... First of all its not an ordinance... It's an example and not all among our people wash feet... Some don't, I was surprised that SDA'a that I know of wash feet... It is an example started by Jesus Christ and it is to show humility at your bothers feet... It not a test of fellowship but you feel better after you have done it... It was an honor for me to wash my Dads feet... Men wash men's feet and women wash women's feet... I ask my Dad one time, Jesus didn't say wash feet!... It not a command but an example... He said to do as he had done... You ought to wash one another feet, you don't have too... Dad said son, an ought to me is the same as saying wash one another's feet... The disciples didn't set it up the Lord did... If the disciples started it, then there's a question but the Lord started it... No question!... You call yourself a disciple, wash feet!... So I follow the Lord and do!... Brother Glen:)

John 13: 12 So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?

13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.

14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.

15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.
 

tyndale1946

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Its an experience and once you do it in the right frame of mind, there is nothing like it... If you can recall the first time you were baptized, with tears of joy in the Lord, singing, handshaking, hugging and you were truly a part of a loving brotherhood and the family of the Lord, its something like that, this side of Heaven... Most don't even know what foot washing is?... Brethren before they go into foot washing have taken a shower and have cleaned their feet at home... You don't do foot washing because you have dirty, smelly feet... That is not the point... It has spiritual application... You are stating to the brethren in a covenant way... You and these other brethren because we have washed each others feet, will walk in a way the Lord has bid us to walk, not showing dishonor to the Lord or one another, until we meet again... In service or until we wash feet again... Now do some of you have an idea what foot washing is?... Brother Glen:)
 

JD731

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Foot/Feet washing is not an ordinance of the church to be observed. I can say that on the authority of the holy Scriptures. See here;

Eph 3:1 For this cause (consult previous chapter for the cause) I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost. 17 I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus Christ in those things which pertain to God.

Now watch this;

18 For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,

Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

Logically, if I were going to read my Bible and try to determine if God wanted me to practice foot washing as an ordinance of the church and I came across the words I have quoted above, they would have a serious impact upon my decision. I would read the 13 letters Paul wrote to gentiles to see if he addressed it anywhere and instructed me as a gentile to do it.
I would pay particular attention to the following quote;

1 Corinthians 11:2
Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.

Here is some petinent information to consider.

Everything Biblically from Ge 12 to Acts 10 is in the context of the people group Israel, beginning with the fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Because Israel would not believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the promised Messiah when he came to fulfill all that was written concerning him, God called the gentiles and in this age mostly gentiles are filling up the house (family) that God is forming now and the church has a distinctly gentile character. When the house is full, then God will take it to his house in heaven and deal with those who are left on earth and purge and redeem Israel like he promised in those OT scriptures. See this:

Luke 14: 22 And the servant said, Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room.
23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
24 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.

Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: (he had been speaking to the Jews)

25 For I would not, brethren (That is gentile brethren), that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

So no, Paul gave two ordinances to the church, baptism and the Lord's table. That is it. He did not tell us to wash one another's feet as an ordinance. However, Christians have liberty and if a congregation chooses to do so, God is not dishonored by it. One just cannot make it a test of spirituality.

I hope this helps.
 

tyndale1946

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Foot/Feet washing is not an ordinance of the church to be observed. I can say that on the authority of the holy Scriptures. See here;

Eph 3:1 For this cause (consult previous chapter for the cause) I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost. 17 I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus Christ in those things which pertain to God.

Now watch this;

18 For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,

Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

Logically, if I were going to read my Bible and try to determine if God wanted me to practice foot washing as an ordinance of the church and I came across the words I have quoted above, they would have a serious impact upon my decision. I would read the 13 letters Paul wrote to gentiles to see if he addressed it anywhere and instructed me as a gentile to do it.
I would pay particular attention to the following quote;

1 Corinthians 11:2
Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.

Here is some petinent information to consider.

Everything Biblically from Ge 12 to Acts 10 is in the context of the people group Israel, beginning with the fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Because Israel would not believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the promised Messiah when he came to fulfill all that was written concerning him, God called the gentiles and in this age mostly gentiles are filling up the house (family) that God is forming now and the church has a distinctly gentile character. When the house is full, then God will take it to his house in heaven and deal with those who are left on earth and purge and redeem Israel like he promised in those OT scriptures. See this:

Luke 14: 22 And the servant said, Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room.
23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
24 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.

Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: (he had been speaking to the Jews)

25 For I would not, brethren (That is gentile brethren), that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

So no, Paul gave two ordinances to the church, baptism and the Lord's table. That is it. He did not tell us to wash one another's feet as an ordinance. However, Christians have liberty and if a congregation chooses to do so, God is not dishonored by it. One just cannot make it a test of spirituality.

I hope this helps.

One question... Did you ever wash feet in church, after The Lords Supper?... Brother Glen:)
 

37818

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One question... Did you ever wash feet in church, after The Lords Supper?... Brother Glen:)
The.foot washing Jesus did was done after the supper, Luke 22:19-21, John 13:2-31.

John 13:12 So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?

13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.

14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.

15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.
 
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JD731

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One question... Did you ever wash feet in church, after The Lords Supper?... Brother Glen:)

No.


Paul, our apostle, writes the word "foot" one single time in his 13 letters to the churches and pastors.

Here it is:

1Co 12:15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

The context is the members of the body of Christ in the body. It is not in the context of observing an ordinance.

The word "feet" is found these times and none are in the context of keeping an ordinance.

Ro 3:15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
Ro 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Ro 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
1Co 12:21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under [him, it is] manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
Eph 1:22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all [things] to the church,
Eph 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
1Ti 5:10 Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints’ feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work.

I am not condemning the practice but just saying it is not a church ordinance. The practice of it for individual churches falls under the heading of "Christian liberty."
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