You are right, that is silly. You don't think I know that Edwards and I are on complete opposite sides of the spectrum with regard to soteriology? That is OBVIOUS and I've NEVER claimed otherwise.
I've ONLY claimed to be in agreement with Edwards on the question of the origin of sin, PERIOD. What is SILLY is that you would accuse me of saying that Edward agrees with Arminianism on the whole. That is LUDICROUS!
You are not reading my posts thoroughly at all.
I did not say that you claimed that Edwards agrees with Arminianism as a whole.
I said that you claim that Edwards agrees with Arminianism on the issue of original sin when he clearly does not.
What you CANNOT seem to see is that he, for about the third time, acknowledges that Arminian divines got it right on a particular ASPECT of original sin.
Not ONLY does Edwards not agree with Arminianism as a whole (I never said that you said he did) but he does not agree with Arminianism concerning original sin as a whole (iow, on the whole of the doctrine of original sin).
Please be more thorough in reading my posts. We are only able to respond a few times over the spread of many hours and when I have to clarify just because you did not read the post thoroughly it makes this process quite tedious.
I know what he said Luke, remember I quoted it to you several times. The part that he wasn't comfortable with is the part you are comfortable with...i.e. saying God does sin (but somehow its ok because his motives are good), which Edwards NEVER says. He goes out of his way to say that God is not the one doing the deed and that such a belief would indeed be blasphemous. Remember?
See, you don't read thoroughly. I NEVER said that God sins. Are you doing this on purpose or are you that distracted??
God kills men but it is not murder.
God takes from men but it is not stealing.
God batters men but it is not abuse.
God often employs the evil hearts of wicked men to do his bidding but God's power, plan and purpose are at the back of every deed ever done.
Men who do those deeds do them with an evil heart and with evil motives. God who planned and empowers those deeds does them with a pure heart and the highest and holiest of motives.
And I would be in that tent right along with you, but you won't stop there will you Luke? You will go on to say as you have said again and again, that God does "sinful deeds" but that its not really sin because he does it for good reasons.
You continue to misrepresent me. THEY ARE NOT SIN IF GOD DOES IT. It IS NOT POSSIBLE.
Reread the above comments for further clarification.
Plus, anything that God only foreknows and permits, doesn't fit your view because you can't have God being informed by something a man originates, so that only leaves God to be the originator, but you can't bring yourself to say that so you appeal to mystery.
God cannot be informed of anything. I actually find it shocking that you would purport such a notion.
. Please find me just one scholar who teaches this view so I can research it.
Will you really?
You presented this same challenge to jarthur in another thread and he presented you with about a dozen. Did you withdraw your challenge or acknowledge that it had more than sufficiently been met.
If you will commit to do this I will present you with numerous scholars. However, Edwards is one of them and you do not seem to be able to see it.