The Religious Right Is Awol From The Real War

[poncho]

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin458.htm

You tell em Chuck! Maybe you can get through to em better than me. I haven't been able to and I've been preaching this same message here almost everyday for four long years.

 

[I Am Blessed 24]

Ask some soldiers or veterans what they think about that article...

 

[poncho]

Ask some soldiers or veterans what they think about that article...

Why, don't you have an opinion?

 

[I Am Blessed 24]

Yes, I do, and it's the same as the soldiers and veterans I know. The article is hogwash.

IMO, the people who are AWOL are the ones who are wanting us to pull out of Iraq and they've never been there and probably never served in the Armed Forces.

 

[Revmitchell]

What does that mean the "real war"?

How is the unlimited slaughter of children in this country not a real war? To diminish such a holocaust in light of anything else is seriously misguided.

 

[windcatcher]

I think Chuck is telling it like it is.

If people really knew how much has already been put into place to insure the success of the NAU they should be beyond the point of alarm to panic and out rage.

 

[windcatcher]

Yes, I do, and it's the same as the soldiers and veterans I know. The article is hogwash.

IMO, the people who are AWOL are the ones who are wanting us to pull out of Iraq and they've never been there and probably never served in the Armed Forces.

I seriously wonder did you read the article?



FYI, it is about the NAU and the loss of our sovereignty.

And, if you followed the laws which have been passed and the military/civilian practice 'games' for martial law, and the agreements between our government and those of Canada and other international forces to control anticipated civil unrest, and the indoctrination of church leaders as to assistance in encouraging acceptance or forcing compliance of whatever is planned for our future by those who have the NWO agenda............Really! Get your head out of the sand.

And, if you interview the soldiers who've been sent to Iraq, if they were sent to round up Americans, would they do it.... and they would........ and they were interviewed and asked 'what if they are armed' and OUR soldiers answered the question "if armed, we would consider them enemy combatants and follow orders given to fire.' When asked if it would make any difference if the orders came from an American officer or an officer of another nationality in an international force the answer was 'it makes no difference, sir, an order is an order.'

There, I hope you sleep well tonight.

 

[poncho]

Yes, I do, and it's the same as the soldiers and veterans I know. The article is hogwash.

IMO, the people who are AWOL are the ones who are wanting us to pull out of Iraq and they've never been there and probably never served in the Armed Forces.

Sounds like you've been rehearsing that line for awhile. You're telling me that staying in Iraq is more important to you and your veteran friends than defending the U.S. Constitution from it's domestic enemies?

Who in this case are the people Chuck Baldwin is talking about. Didn't you all take the same oath I did? To protect and defend the U.S. Constitution?

What good will "staying the course" do if we end up being ruled by a foreign elite?

You're willing to sacrifice your national sovereignty over a matter of national pride? Sorry, but I don't get that at all.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Yes, I do, and it's the same as the soldiers and veterans I know. The article is hogwash.

IMO, the people who are AWOL are the ones who are wanting us to pull out of Iraq and they've never been there and probably never served in the Armed Forces.

I served. I've been to the persian gulf. I have a brother who's been several times.

Pull out ? We should have never pulled in.

 

[Bro. James]

The man makes some good points and some not so good points. He is also trying to sell books for $29.95+/ ea. copy.

From a body politic standpoint there is no real "religious right" of any consequence past the local level. This is evidenced by the fact that there is a 50/50 split on the legality of a woman's right to choose murder.

The body politic (the ones who vote) put the leaders in place. Shame on us if we do not insist they be above reproach. Apparently we have trouble with our paradigm of reproach.

I defended the Constitution of the U.S., in uniform, for 22 yrs. from 1964-1975(The whole Viet Nam "era"), intermittently through 2000. Eleven of those years were as a citizen soldier. We were headed for Iraq in 1991. Someone pulled the plug. I still believe the Constitution of the U.S. worthy of defense to the death.

The real war is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and powers, against spiritual wickedness in heavenly places. That is the long war against God which Satan has been waging since he was cast from Heaven.

Who is on the Lord's side has become lost in the wonderful world of ecumenism.

Let the body politic speak loudly: register and vote at every level of government--a privilege of citizenship we often take for granted.

Selah,

Bro. James

 

[NiteShift]

You tell em Chuck! Maybe you can get through to em better than me.

From the article:

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]In a nutshell, Corsi warns us that G.W. Bush is secretly working to merge the United States into a trilateral government with Canada and Mexico. Corsi maintains that back in March of 2005, President Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin entered into an agreement that binds the three countries into a regional or hemispheric government.[/FONT]

Jerome Corsi has said that Iran is developing nuclear weapons and that the US or Israel would be justified in any pre-emptive attack. Now, knowing your views on that subject, are you sure you want to align yourself with him? Just checking.

 

[betterthanideserve]

Folks,
Sad to say,that MUCH of the so called (religious right) are part of the problem. Seems to me that most of the organized churches are simply put, co-conspirators in this global plan,for a global government. They are ready to fall into a place of power when the anti-christ agenda is completed during the great tribulation.
You know as well as I do that they have taken unto themselves preachers having itching ears,and many,including on this board cannot or will not "handle"the truth.
This is evident from many of the posts,as well as the quirky answers to many questions posed by Poncho and myself accusing us as being CT'S without even investigating what he or I say,just name calling.
But it seems as though a few are beginning to awaken,so once again my sincere prayer is this. God let the scales fall from their eyes,and their ears be opened to the truth ,and may they know that your word is true. Jeremiah 33:3

"Call unto me,and I will show thee great and mighty things,which thou knowest not" :godisgood:

 

[Tom Bryant]

But it seems as though a few are beginning to awaken,so once again my sincere prayer is this. God let the scales fall from their eyes,and their ears be opened to the truth ,and may they know that your word is true. Jeremiah 33:3

Forgive me, but I have no doubt that God's Word is true... but this is different, this is man's word. Don't confuse differences about political issues with doubting God's Word.

 

[Revmitchell]

Folks,
Sad to say,that MUCH of the so called (religious right) are part of the problem. Seems to me that most of the organized churches are simply put, co-conspirators in this global plan,for a global government. They are ready to fall into a place of power when the anti-christ agenda is completed during the great tribulation.
You know as well as I do that they have taken unto themselves preachers having itching ears,and many,including on this board cannot or will not "handle"the truth.
This is evident from many of the posts,as well as the quirky answers to many questions posed by Poncho and myself accusing us as being CT'S without even investigating what he or I say,just name calling.
But it seems as though a few are beginning to awaken,so once again my sincere prayer is this. God let the scales fall from their eyes,and their ears be opened to the truth ,and may they know that your word is true. Jeremiah 33:3

"Call unto me,and I will show thee great and mighty things,which thou knowest not" :godisgood:

Good luck with that.

 

[just-want-peace]

Who is on the Lord's side has become lost in the wonderful world of ecumenism.

Truer words were never spoken!!!!

MARANATHA!!!!

 

[poncho]

From the article:




Jerome Corsi has said that Iran is developing nuclear weapons and that the US or Israel would be justified in any pre-emptive attack. Now, knowing your views on that subject, are you sure you want to align yourself with him? Just checking.

Old news to me NS. I've known Corsi is a neocon since I started reading his articles in Human Events Online.

I agree with him on the NAU doesn't mean I'm aligning myself with him. I still believe the USA should give up it's role as the international (NWO) community's military muscle and return to the role of a constitutional representative republic as it was designed to be. I also believe the USA should remain an independent and sovereign nation. The idea of Americans being made subservient to the elitist whims of a handful of unelected foreign bureacrats should get every American hopping mad including neocons. Imho.

If you were POTUS waging a real "global war on terrorism" would you send the National Guard to Iraq to defend it's borders while leaving our own borders and ports unsecure for seven + years? You can answer if you like NS but this question was aimed at everyone.

 

[NiteShift]

Old news to me NS. I've known Corsi is a neocon since I started reading his articles in Human Events Online. I agree with him on the NAU doesn't mean I'm aligning myself with him.

Ok, just so you know. I try not to cite authorities that I disagree with.

I also believe the USA should remain an independent and sovereign nation. The idea of Americans being made subservient to the elitist whims of a handful of unelected foreign bureacrats should get every American hopping mad including neocons. Imho.

As do we all. And probably everyone would be hopping mad if they were convinced that we really are subservient to the whims of foreign bureaucrats. The problem being that most do not accept such a scenario as fact.

If you were POTUS waging a real "global war on terrorism" would you send the National Guard to Iraq to defend it's borders while leaving our own borders and ports unsecure for seven + years? You can answer if you like NS but this question was aimed at everyone.

National Guard troops and regulars were not sent to Iraq to defend it’s borders, but to force the enemy to fight in his own back yard. An honest observer would conclude that it has been effective. IMHO.

 

[poncho]

Ok, just so you know.

I know.

I try not to cite authorities that I disagree with.

Yeah I know.

As do we all. And probably everyone would be hopping mad if they were convinced that we really are subservient to the whims of foreign bureaucrats. The problem being that most do not accept such a scenario as fact.

Lucky for us this view is quickly changing as people learn more about it then eh?

National Guard troops and regulars were not sent to Iraq to defend it’s borders, but to force the enemy to fight in his own back yard.

Even so are you sure this is factual information or did you hear it from one of the pentagon's message force multipliers? "An honest observer" would admit he'd been hoodwinked the minute he found out he'd been hoodwinked.

An honest observer would conclude that it has been effective. IMHO.

So one who might disagree is dishonest by comparison then? Well isn't that just convenient? Like I said before "An honest observer" would admit he'd been hoodwinked the minute he found out he'd been hoodwinked.

 

[poncho]

Lucky for us this view is quickly changing as people learn more about it then eh?

Advancing globalization and trends to world governance have become regular headlines throughout the world. As these trends continue, resistance to losses of sovereignty and globalization are increasing. This is coming as little surprise to the planners who have foreseen the rise of world government, and actively participated in its formation.

Zbigniew Brzezinski admitted in his book, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era, that the formation of the world system would require "sacrifices" on part of Americans that will harm America's favorable position in the world. Brzezinski states,

"The nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty... In the economic-technological field, some international cooperation has already been achieved, but further progress will require greater American sacrifices. More intensive efforts to shape a new world monetary structure will have to be undertaken, with some consequent risk to the present relatively favorable American position."
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There is little doubt that Brzezinski knew exactly what kind of response this action would evoke from patriotic Americans. At the moment we are witnessing America's favorable economic position being drastically eroded as the dollar continues its freefall, with former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan's endorsement.

The great dream of world governance comes at a price. Ancient ideas of national sovereignty have no place in the modern era. Sacrifices must be made.

What reactions do the global planners expect?




Full Article...

No doubt they expect some of us to deny it to the very end and some us here are doing a fine job of living up to those expectations...NS, my very good friend. :smilewinkgrin:

"What we in America call terrorists are really groups of people that reject the international system..."

Henry Kissenger May 31, 2007

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

I served. I've been to the persian gulf. I have a brother who's been several times.

Pull out ? We should have never pulled in.

WOW!