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The Role of Women in the Family and Church

RighteousnessTemperance&

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I didn't say no one said anything about men in politics. I said I had just come back from a break from BB after not being able to handle Kamala being characterized as "sleeping her way to the top" after having an affair. The implication being she was sexually immoral and that negated her being qualified for office of any kind.

I don't like name-calling of any kind, but I felt that was going to be a running gag here, so I took a break.
And I didn’t say you said no one said anything about men in politics. It was much more specific, and broader.

You mentioned Kamala in the context of how women are focused on vs men. Men are also accused here of being unfit because of sexual immorality. Kamala is not an outlier. I'm not trying to bust your chops, just saying that bringing her up the way you did only confuses your point.

And name-calling can be flagged for moderators, if that is what is going on. You shouldn’t have to feel you must leave, though I can understand why people might and don’t blame them.
 

atpollard

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[Titus 2:1-5]

[KJV] 1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: 2 That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience. 3 The aged women likewise, that [they be] in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 [To be] discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.​

[NASB] 1 But as for you, speak the things which are fitting for sound doctrine. 2 Older men are to be temperate, dignified, sensible, sound in faith, in love, in perseverance. 3 Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips nor enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good, 4 so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 [to be] sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored.​

[NLT] 1 As for you, Titus, promote the kind of living that reflects wholesome teaching. 2 Teach the older men to exercise self-control, to be worthy of respect, and to live wisely. They must have sound faith and be filled with love and patience. 3 Similarly, teach the older women to live in a way that honors God. They must not slander others or be heavy drinkers. Instead, they should teach others what is good. 4 These older women must train the younger women to love their husbands and their children, 5 to live wisely and be pure, to work in their homes, to do good, and to be submissive to their husbands. Then they will not bring shame on the word of God.​

Men and women are both gifted by the Spirit for the work to which they have been called within the Body of Christ. Men have no business trying to do what God has called the women to do, and women have no business trying to do the work that God has called men to do. It is to the shame of the Body when women are forced to step into roles that they should not because there are no men in the church willing to step up and serve.
 
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