The Ron Paul Record

[hillclimber1]

I think the answer to most of your questions, Tom, is that you are looking mostly at issues that are not relevant to the federal government. They should be handled by state and local governments.

That is Ron Paul's general stance and mine as well. I don't doubt that there would be times that I would vote differently than Ron Paul if I was a fellow member of Congress but I imagine I would vote the same way that he does at least 90-95% of the time.

Yes I believe you would.

His voting record, whether constitutional issues or not, seem to come down on the liberal side, and seem pro abortion, for flag desecration, against parental control. In short, he should be a hard one for a conservative Christian to support, without a tremendous amount of explaining.

George Allen for resurrection.

 

[hillclimber1]

I disagree with Paul in that the Muslims didn't start hating us in 1953 over the Shah. They hated us long before that. They hate us because we aren't them. Muslims have engaged in aggression against non-Muslims for eeons. The notion that if we just kept to ourselves, then we wouldn't be targeted, is simply naive. I'm not about to argue that our foreign policy has helped us globally, but it's not why we got hit on 9/11, and the commission report even noted such (we talked about that before to the hilt).

Truth!!!


Abraham's disobedience to God, using Hagar to bear Ishmael, who began a line of wild descendants that will war with Abraham's lawful descendants.

 

[KenH]

1) seem to come down on the liberal side

2) In short, he should be a hard one for a conservative Christian to support, without a tremendous amount of explaining.

1) And I am proudly right there with him. :thumbs:

2) That statement has lots of credibility from an alleged conservative such as you who has stated that he could see himself voting for a self-proclaimed
pro-abortion candidate - Rudy Giuliani.

 

[2 Timothy2:1-4]

Old ronnie is a full blown lib. No doubt about that.

 

[KenH]

Old ronnie is a full blown lib.

Well, Timmy, then so am I - and proudly so.

 

[Petra-O IX]

Old ronnie is a full blown lib. No doubt about that.

Libertarian, That is!... Ya'll come back now ya hear.

 

[KenH]

Well, Rocko, there are people on this board who use the word "liberal" as a slur so often they are like the people who have used the words "racist" or "anti-Semite" so often as slurs that the words no longer have meaning. They become basically meaningly cuss words

 

[Petra-O IX]

Well, Rocko, there are people on this board who use the word "liberal" as a slur so often they are like the people who have used the words "racist" or "anti-Semite" so often as slurs that the words no longer have meaning. They become basically meaningly cuss words

Yes, certainly aware of that.
Put Ron Paul on the liberal scale though and he just won't weigh in as heavy as a lot of the the other candidates. If some beilieve, I mean truely believe that Ron Paul is a liberal then all else is hopeless. We have been waiting for a candiate with morals and integrity and when one appears he quickly gets rejected. Honestly I sometimes wonder if people really know what they want.

 

[KenH]

Honestly I sometimes wonder if people really know what they want.

Pretty much whatever the "mainstream" media(FoxNews, CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, etc.) tells them they should want.

 

[TomVols]

Ken, as I've said, I don't think our foreign policy has helped, but even if we sat at home twiddling our collective thumbs, Muslim extremists would hate us. Doesn't take a long look at Western history to see that.

I know that the vocal Paulites are going to question anyone who doesn't support him, but be fair. I cannot speak for everyone, but I'm pro-life, and many of us who are pro-life are going to object to those whose voting record is suspiciously not pro-life, regardless of whether that person is Dem, GOP, Lib, whatever.

The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideals of liberty. My professional and legislative record demonstrates my strong commitment to this pro-life principle....As an OB/GYN doctor, I’ve delivered over 4,000 babies. That experience has made me an unshakable foe of abortion.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/life-and-liberty

Does his voting record match his platform? I think not. Just my opinion.

 

[TomVols]

Hey Ken, have you seen the town hall where Ron Paul said he would possibly support Chuck Hagel or Dennis Kucinich if he were not running for President? The video is on You Tube.

 

[KenH]

Yes, I heard him say that a few months ago. I like both of those fellas but while I could possibly vote for Hagel for president I don't think I would do so for Kucinich even though I like his position on Bush's Folly in Iraq.

 

[TomVols]

Ever notice how Kucinich is always clammoring to get to the aisle to have his picture taken with Bush at the State of the Union? I like Kucinich. He likes to stir stuff up - much like Paul Of course, Kucinich is mild this time around compared to Gravel (who, btw, supports the Fair Tax).