dwmoeller1
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It is hard to reconcile being a baptist with being a "Calvinist."
Spurgeon didn't seem to have that difficulty
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It is hard to reconcile being a baptist with being a "Calvinist."
I have found that Calvinism does not kill evangelism. It makes for sane evangelism.
amity said:But I still don't think of myself as a Calvinist. Just a predestinarian. It is hard to reconcile being a baptist with being a "Calvinist."
Only if you limit Calvinism to a particular formulation of soteriology. There is more to Calvin's teachings than that. And even if limited to soteriology I doubt most Calvinistic Baptists would agree entirely with Calvin.dwmoeller1 said:Spurgeon didn't seem to have that difficulty![]()
Jarthur001 said:The route to Calvinism, is Bible study. In fact one can not be a Calvinist without Bible study. It is very easy to be a free-willer. No Bible study is needed to be a free-willer.
That is not accurate brother James.Jarthur001 said:The route to Calvinism, is Bible study. In fact one can not be a Calvinist without Bible study. It is very easy to be a free-willer. No Bible study is needed to be a free-willer.
Not mad, just...corrective :laugh: :wavey:reformedbeliever said:Awww... now J. You just had to come along and start trouble huh? :laugh:
The free willers are gonna be mad at you bout that one. lol
And this thread was so uplifting.raying:
I agree that this aspect has been the cause of great frustration in the churchs that is one of the REASONS many non-cals stop witnessing.dwmoeller1 said:Hear! Hear!Its so nice to know that I am not responble for another's soul - I am responsible only to obey the Spirit. The latter is 'problem' enough sometimes (dang flesh! how I look forward to the glorification) without adding on the pressure of the former.
Pass the peanuts.webdog said:I think James is just trying to bait us into this thread.
This is y'all's party...have fun![]()
Allan said:That is not accurate brother James.
I did know some Calvinists who are new to the faith (new believers) that claimed to be Calvinists and didn't know much more than that.
I also knew some in College at SouthEastern in Wake Forest that called them selves Calvinists but didn't understand much of their own beliefs. It was were I first got my (mis)information concerning certain things regarding the Calvinistic doctrine from actual Calvinists. They (2 guys) came to the Lord in a Reformed church just after graduation and a couple of months later decided to go to college to further their understanding. I didn't meet them until the later end of the Fall semester at an outreach we were doing to a certain outlying town but I think if you would have met them THEN you would probably took a wet noodle after them (as my wife would say). I'm sure they are more established now but not then in their understanding because they did not do much BIBLE study regarding it.
Those are just examples but sufice to show that one can be a Calvinist without study too. One can be anything (even a Calvinist) without any study however one can not speak biblically of their position without any true study to be able to withstand refuation from anyone.
It would (I think) be better to say that one may go in either direction through study since this is the case both currently and historically.
The immutable truths of scripture do not change even if we vew the mechanics of those truths differently.
It's about time! :laugh:Jarthur001 said:I don't have much of a fight in me tonight Allan, so I'll let you have this one. I got to give ya a easy one every now and then...just to keep ya coming back.
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Jarthur001 said:The route to Calvinism, is Bible study. In fact one can not be a Calvinist without Bible study. It is very easy to be a free-willer. No Bible study is needed to be a free-willer.
a. I am not seeing how one could reasonable insist that this is referring to THE atonement of Christ for the individual
b. It also doesn't establish that the atonement is not universal in application (with some exceptions like above...assuming point a. is even established to begin with).
Helen said:That's strange.
It was two years of rather intensive Bible study which convinced me Calvinism is wrong.
Okay, how about a preacher man. Intensive Bible study proved to me also that Calvinism is wrong. Okay, I'll bow out now too. Have fun! :wavey:npetreley said:Maybe that's why women are forbidden to teach.![]()