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The Sabbath by Christ in Isaiah

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Gerhard Ebersoehn

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Dr Walter:

“Agreed that God rested on the Seventh day from all the work he did in the previous six days.”


GE:

Answer:

No! It is NOT “agreed”. “God rested on the Seventh day”—
“God RESTED” was the WORK God conquered by and triumphed in, and wherewith He “blessed” and “sanctified”, and “FINISHED” “the Seventh Day” “ON THE Seventh Day”, and put it apart, separated it, not only FOR, but WITH and BY his Eternal Purpose in Jesus Christ. God’s WORK of and on the Seventh Day was and is and will be, God’s REST exclusively of all that He had created “in the previous six days”. That, is the meaning of “from", "all the work he did in the previous six days”.
Perceive that, and you will never be able to replace God’s Seventh-Day-Sabbath with another day of his creating or creation, like you are trying with all your might, to do, Dr Walter.

 
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Gerhard Ebersoehn

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Hebrews 4:9 is the only place in the NT (or the Septuagint) in which the word sabbatismos is used.

As you suggest, the context of Hebrews 4 is the key to it's meaning.

I am contending that the structure of the sentence of Hebrews 4:9 is that the people of God must enter into the Sabbath rest of Jesus Christ and cease from the works of the mosaic law which can never provide rest for the weary souls.

Matthew 11
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.​

Hebrews 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.​

This is the Sabbath of God, to rest in the finished work of Jesus Christ.​

HankD​

GE:

I don’t “suggest” anything of the kind.
Nowhere does “the context of Hebrews 4” or “the structure of the sentence of Hebrews 4” within verses 8 to 10, or further, harbour the ideas “that the people of God must cease from the works of the mosaic law which can never provide rest for the weary souls.” That is your own foreign idea you imported into the fourth chapter of Hebrews.
Nor does Hebrews 4 anywhere or anyhow identify the two concepts of to ‘enter into the rest of Jesus Christ’ WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST, and “the Sabbath rest” “that remains FOR THE PEOPLE” to ‘-ism’ or ‘culture’ or “keep” as the “DAY the SABBATH”, _IS_.

Therefore,

Re: “This is the Sabbath of God, to rest in the finished work of Jesus Christ.”

Answer:
No; this is “the REST of God”, “to rest in the finished work of Jesus Christ” as where referred to and or presupposed every time the word ‘katapausis’, “rest”, “or the words, ‘katapausis mou’, “MY rest”, or the words ‘katapausis tou Theou’, “the Rest of God”, are written in so many words or supposed or suggested— NOT “the Sabbath of God”. Sorry.



 

Gerhard Ebersoehn

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DW:

Hank, the plural form is the normal form with "mia" for designating the first day of the week. However, the singular form as found in Mark 16:9 is not normal and that is what I am pointing out. In the majority text the singular form is used for the 4th commandment. The term "proto" instead of "mia" is also abnormal. The two together are strong for the idea "the first Sabbath in a new series."

Hank:

I agree if the "new" one is not confined to a day of the week.


GE:

I prefer the logic of DHK in this case,
Quoting: ““Definition of week = group of seven.
Creation = seven days.
Sabbath = seventh day, the day which God rested.
Today's calendar the seventh day is Saturday and the first day of the week is Sunday, and therefore the Sabbath is always on Saturday ....

At least DHK has got a grip on reality …. well, here…

 

DHK

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Hank:

I agree if the "new" one is not confined to a day of the week.


GE:

I prefer the logic of DHK in this case,
Quoting: ““Definition of week = group of seven.
Creation = seven days.
Sabbath = seventh day, the day which God rested.
Today's calendar the seventh day is Saturday and the first day of the week is Sunday, and therefore the Sabbath is always on Saturday ....

At least DHK has got a grip on reality …. well, here...

But remember GE,
Though the Sabbath Day falls on a Saturday, believers of this dispensation are not under the law; are nowhere in the NT commanded to keep it, and like Hank says--for the believer this one day of rest is not confined to any day of the week.

The actual Sabbath Day was given to the nation of Israel to keep, as a sign of the covenant made by Jehovah and their generations forever.
 

Gerhard Ebersoehn

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Thanks, DHK and HankD and Dr Walter.



Isaiah 56 part two

I started this subject, and it --- without re-postings --- got to 100 pages in Times New Roman 16 font. Scarcely --- no, in fact --- there was no single comment on Isaiah 56!
I asked Dr Walter directly, what he says of “The Man” and “The Son of Man” in Isaiah 56 who “keeps the Sabbath”. I am still waiting for a reply after 100 pages!
Something must be awry. And my contribution to the entire discussion was not 5% I would estimate. So I cannot be blamed for a discussion of the Sabbath in Isaiah 56 that turns out 95+% of OTHER things than Isaiah 56.
I know several other discussion forums, and can tell you none of them is of the calibre and standard of Baptist Board. Please men, can we have a discussion on the subject? (Women are invited heartily as well!)
Thank you by voorbaat.
GE


 
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HankD

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Thanks, DHK and HankD and Dr Walter.



Isaiah 56 part two

I started this subject, and it --- without re-postings --- got to 100 pages in Times New Roman 16 font. Scarcely --- no, in fact --- there was no single comment on Isaiah 56!
I asked Dr Walter directly, what he says of “The Man” and “The Son of Man” in Isaiah 56 who “keeps the Sabbath”. I am still waiting for a reply after 100 pages!
Something must be awry. And my contribution to the entire discussion was not 5% I would estimate. So I cannot be blamed for a discussion of the Sabbath in Isaiah 56 that turns out 95+% of OTHER things than Isaiah 56.
I know several other discussion forums, and can tell you none of them is of the calibre and standard of Baptist Board. Please men, can we have a discussion on the subject? (Women are invited heartily as well!)
Thank you by voorbaat.
GE

The Sabbath rest of the seventh day is a legal covenant between God and Israel.

Exodus 31
16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.​

The Book of Isaiah is prophetic and Israel/Judah is the focus:

Isaiah 1:1 The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.
2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.
3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.
4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.

Isaiah 56:1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
8 The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.
9 All ye beasts of the field, come to devour, yea, all ye beasts in the forest.
10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.
11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.
12 Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.​

The church is not Israel and are not under the Law.

Acts 15
1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
...
5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
...
22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:
24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

If you follow after the law you must keep every point of the law (613 commandments - mitzvouth) not just the 10 commandments.

KJV Deuteronomy 27:26 Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.​

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.​

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.​

The law brings condemnation
Romans 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.​

But we are not under the Law, we are not Israel, we are the church.
In this age we are led of the Spirit which dwells within us.

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.​

Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.​

The New Covenant rest is to cease from our own works and come to Christ who Himself is our Sabbath rest.

Matthew 11
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.​

HankD​
 

Dr. Walter

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Thanks, DHK and HankD and Dr Walter.



Isaiah 56 part two

I started this subject, and it --- without re-postings --- got to 100 pages in Times New Roman 16 font. Scarcely --- no, in fact --- there was no single comment on Isaiah 56!
I asked Dr Walter directly, what he says of “The Man” and “The Son of Man” in Isaiah 56 who “keeps the Sabbath”. I am still waiting for a reply after 100 pages!
Something must be awry. And my contribution to the entire discussion was not 5% I would estimate. So I cannot be blamed for a discussion of the Sabbath in Isaiah 56 that turns out 95+% of OTHER things than Isaiah 56.
I know several other discussion forums, and can tell you none of them is of the calibre and standard of Baptist Board. Please men, can we have a discussion on the subject? (Women are invited heartily as well!)
Thank you by voorbaat.
GE



Sorry, must of missed the post you asked me directly about Isaiah 56:2. I believe "the man" and "the son of man" refer to "the man" in Mark 2:27.
 

Dr. Walter

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The Sabbath rest of the seventh day is a legal covenant between God and Israel.

Exodus 31
16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.​

The Book of Isaiah is prophetic and Israel/Judah is the focus:


Isaiah 1:1 The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.
2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.
3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.
4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.

Isaiah 56:1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
8 The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.
9 All ye beasts of the field, come to devour, yea, all ye beasts in the forest.
10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.
11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.
12 Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.​

The church is not Israel and are not under the Law.

Acts 15
1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
...
5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
...
22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:
24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

If you follow after the law you must keep every point of the law (613 commandments - mitzvouth) not just the 10 commandments.

KJV Deuteronomy 27:26 Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.​

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.​

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.​

The law brings condemnation
Romans 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.​

But we are not under the Law, we are not Israel, we are the church.
In this age we are led of the Spirit which dwells within us.

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.​

Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.​

The New Covenant rest is to cease from our own works and come to Christ who Himself is our Sabbath rest.

Matthew 11
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.​

HankD​

I agree that we are not "under the law." We are not "under" any of the ten commandments but not one of the ten commandments has been abolished in the sense of a moral standard including the fourth.

Mark 16:9 demonstrates there is a specific day that is the "first" in a series of new sabbaths and that specific day is specifically identified in Revelation 1:10 as "the Lord's day." The first day of the week is the sign of the New covenant just as the seventh day of the week was the sign of the old Covenant between God and Israel. That is the import of the typology in Leviticus 23 and the direct application found in Psalm 118:24 with Acts 4:10-11 and Mark 16:9; Heb. 4:9; Acts 20:7; 1 Cor. 16:1-2 with Revelation 1:10.

You cannot spiritualize the fourth commandment to be Christ any more than you can spiritualize the other nine to be Christ. You cannot do away with the fourth any more than you can do away with the other nine in regard to practical application. Certainly Christ fulfilled all ten commandments in his life but still the ten commandments are the moral standard for us even though we are no longer "under" them as a covenant. All ten are written upon the regenerated inward man (Rom. 7:21; 2 Cor. 3:3) in the sense of "delight" and "desire" to keep them even though we do not keep them in order to be justified or keep them in order to escape eternal condemnation.
 
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Dr. Walter

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DHK you have repeatedly challenged me with the context of Mark 2. However, I don't see how the context helps your position in the least. There is no disagreement that Christ was correcting the abuse of the fourth commandment by the Pharisees. However, Christ corrected the abuse of the other commandments by the Pharisee as well (see Matthew 5:21-44). In neither case did he do away with the other ten commandments any more than he did away with the fourth.

Mark 2:27 simply defines who the fourth was "made" for "the man" [not "the Jew"] and why Jesus had the right to interpret it because he was the one who "made" it - "The Lord of the Sabbath."

Both statements demand he is referring to Genesis 2 not Exodus or Deuteronomy and therefore the creational sabbath which was "sanctified" - SET APART by God and "blessed" by God.

What you have failed to answer is why an omniscient eternal God would have to "set apart" a 24 hour period for Himself and no one else????? Jesus denies it was set apart for God but was "made for the man" to set apart UNTO God. It is in this sense God set it apart unto Himself.

Mark 2:27-28 anhilates your whole interpretative scheme and when this text is joined with Revelation 1:10 and the fact there is a certain day of the week defined and set apart as "The Lord's Day" then your whole argument simply evaporates.
 

HankD

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You cannot spiritualize the fourth commandment to be Christ any more than you can spiritualize the other nine to be Christ. You cannot do away with the fourth any more than you can do away with the other nine in regard to practical application. Certainly Christ fulfilled all ten commandments in his life but still the ten commandments are the moral standard for us even though we are no longer "under" them as a covenant. All ten are written upon the regenerated inward man (Rom. 7:21; 2 Cor. 3:3) in the sense of "delight" and "desire" to keep them even though we do not keep them in order to be justified or keep them in order to escape eternal condemnation.

I know that the law still stands because Christ said it would and so it does in the word of God in the first five books of the Bible.

However, it cannot be kept today even if one wanted because the temple in Jerusalem no longer exists.

If one commandment (mitzva) is broken then the whole is broken.

Leviticus 6
12 And the fire upon the altar shall be burning in it; it shall not be put out: and the priest shall burn wood on it every morning, and lay the burnt offering in order upon it; and he shall burn thereon the fat of the peace offerings.
13 The fire shall ever be burning upon the altar; it shall never go out.​

The fire went out in AD70.
Many other mitzvouth are impossible today with no temple, no levitical priesthood, the land defiled, no Red Heifer, etc, etc...​

Second, I am not spiritualizing the 4th commandment Dr Walter but simply pointing out that Christ has provided a "rest" that it signifies and that He fulfilled and provided for those of us not under the law.​

The law contained shadows of reality and in this instance the author of the book of Hebrews shows the wider scope of the sabbath rest.​

You are correct that I cannot not do away with the fourth commandment and that is not exactly what I said, but If God wants to give a wider significance to the levitical Sabbath day rest that is His perogative and He does so in Hebrews 3:11-4:10.​

The "rest" of Hebrews 3:11 is not the sabbath rest of the mosaic law but what it foreshadowed.​

3:11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest

It is of faith and not of the law.

18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.​

Again it is of fath and not the law:​

Hebrews 4
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.​

Again this rest is not the sabbath day rest of the law:​

NKJV Hebrews 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day.​

The sad irony is that some/many (perhaps) who are striving to keep the Sabbath day rest of the mosaic law have violated the sabbath rest provided by Jesus Christ having yoked themselves to the law and thereby having put themselves under the law.​

The prounoun (autou - His) used in Hebrews 10 and the pronoun (ekeinos - that) is used in Hebrews 4:11 are used to show that His "rest" is to be differentiated from the seventh sabbath day "rest" of the law.​

It pointed to another rest which is likened to the sabbath day keeping because the word sabbatismos - sabbath keeping is used in Hebrews 4:9 and likened to the creation rest in verse 10 showing that there was another rest to be entered into by faith.​

9 There remaineth therefore a rest (sabbatismos) to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.​

Matthew 11
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.​

If you find "Christ is our sabbath rest" not to your liking then how about "Christ provides a rest for our souls"?

HankD​
 

Dr. Walter

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I know that the law still stands because Christ said it would and so it does in the word of God in the first five books of the Bible.

However, it cannot be kept today even if one wanted because the temple in Jerusalem no longer exists.

If one commandment (mitzva) is broken then the whole is broken.



You are referring to the Law under Moses and the Levitical application or Old Covenant established with Israel. The Ten commandments as a moral law predated Moses and certainly the Sabbath predated Moses (Ex. 16; Gen. 2). There can be no "sin" where there is no law and there was sin prior to Moses. However, it is true that none before Moses could keep the law as a moral code written upon conscience much less revealed commandments. Remember, God said that Abraham would keep His commandments. Jesus said the Sabbath "was made for [the] man" and he was specifically in context speaking of the creation sabbath as the very next verse declares Him to be the "Lord" of the Sabbath or the creator in Genesis 2.

Your argument only provides "rest" for Jews under the Mosaic law and has no application for us since according to your argument we WERE NEVER UNDER that law and therefore Christ NEVER fulfilled it for us. The only way that Christ could fulfill the law FOR US is if we were subject to it in some sense.

Second, I am not spiritualizing the 4th commandment Dr Walter but simply pointing out that Christ has provided a "rest" that it signifies and that He fulfilled and provided for those of us not under the law.​

What need is there to "fulfill" a law for those who were NEVER UNDER IT. This is DKH and your argument that it was only given to the Jews and thus the other nine were only given to the Jews as you cannot dissect the fourth from the other nine. They were given together as one unit. If Christ fulfilled the Sabbath for us it is because the Sabbath exceeded Israel and was "made for [the] man" not just for the Jew.

The law contained shadows of reality and in this instance the author of the book of Hebrews shows the wider scope of the sabbath rest.​

I agree with this. It is wider than the "rest" from the wilderness journeying brought by Joshua entering into Palestine. It is wider than the "rest" brought by David from defeating all surrounding enemies and it is wider than the "spiritual" rest entered into by all saints previous to and after the cross who believed in the gospel. It is inclusive of "his rest" that is, the rest at Creation which involved PERFECT REST between God and all creation WITHOUT THE PRESENCE OF SIN. That rest has not yet been entered into (Heb. 4:11) and will not until there is a NEW creation. That is precisely why there remaineth the keeping of a BETTER sabbath day (Heb. 4:9) for the people of God - "The Lord's Day."

You are correct that I cannot not do away with the fourth commandment and that is not exactly what I said, but If God wants to give a wider significance to the levitical Sabbath day rest that is His perogative and He does so in Hebrews 3:11-4:10.​


The prounoun (autou - His) used in Hebrews 10 and the pronoun (ekeinos - that) is used in Hebrews 4:11 are used to show that His "rest" is to be differentiated from the seventh sabbath day "rest" of the law.​


His rest is identified by Context to be the Sabbath rest at creation (Heb. 4:4-5) rather than the Levitical Sabbath given to Israel. The creation rest exceeded the Jewish application as it was "made for [the man]" by Christ (Mk. 2:27) by the "Lord of the Sabbath" in Genesis 2. "His" rest is a rest that signifies a creation WITHOUT THE PRESENCE OF SIN. That rest is entered into by faith in the gospel in regard to the human "spirit" as what is born of Spirit is spirit. God has cleansed within us a tabernacle for His indwelling - the human spirit but our "soul" and "body" have not yet entered into "His" rest and will not until the NEW heaven and earth occur WITHOUT SIN and we enter into that rest.

It pointed to another rest which is likened to the sabbath day keeping because the word sabbatismos - sabbath keeping is used in Hebrews 4:9 and likened to the creation rest in verse 10 showing that there was another rest to be entered into by faith.​

9 There remaineth therefore a rest (sabbatismos) to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.​


The pronoun "he" is Jesus Christ and it the work of Christ that is being compared to the work of God. This "he" is our great high Preist (v. 14) that has entered into this rest in regard to his whole HUMAN NATURE as his whole HUMAN nature is without the presence of sin and in the presence of God. This will not occur for us until we are glorified and in the presence of God (v. 11) within a new creation where God can once again look upon all that He has created and say "very good" as He did in Genesis 1:31 (Rev. 21:1-2).

Jesus ceased from his work of redemption just as God ceased from his work of creating and that is precisely why "there remaineth a Sabbath day observance" for God's people today. However, the Sabbath under the New Covenant is BETTER than the Sabbath observance under the OLD covenant. Our Sabbath day - "The Lord's Day" is without all the Levitical legal codes - it is a day set apart and observed by rejoicing and gladness (Psa. 118:24) as a day of PUBLIC worship in God's house RESTING from self-centered ways (Isa. 58:13) but doing the WORK OF GOD - doing good for others.

Matthew 11
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.​

If you find "Christ is our sabbath rest" not to your liking then how about "Christ provides a rest for our souls"?

HankD​

I fully agree that we have entered into complete rest in Christ in regard to our spirit and we can enter rest in Christ daily was we "walk as we received the Lord Jesus Christ" (Col. 2:6) but we cannot enter into that "rest" in spirit, soul and body until we are glorified and in God's presence within a creation where God can once again look upon all He has created and say "very good." That is precisely why we observe the "Lord's day" in remembrance of the work of redemption that secures that future rest.​
 
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You are referring to the Law under Moses and the Levitical application or Old Covenant established with Israel. The Ten commandments as a moral law predated Moses and certainly the Sabbath predated Moses (Ex. 16; Gen. 2). There can be no "sin" where there is no law and there was sin prior to Moses. However, it is true that none before Moses could keep the law as a moral code written upon conscience much less revealed commandments. Remember, God said that Abraham would keep His commandments. Jesus said the Sabbath "was made for [the] man" and he was specifically in context speaking of the creation sabbath as the very next verse declares Him to be the "Lord" of the Sabbath or the creator in Genesis 2.

Your argument only provides "rest" for Jews under the Mosaic law and has no application for us since according to your argument we WERE NEVER UNDER that law and therefore Christ NEVER fulfilled it for us. The only way that Christ could fulfill the law FOR US is if we were subject to it in some sense.

What need is there to "fulfill" a law for those who were NEVER UNDER IT. This is DKH and your argument that it was only given to the Jews and thus the other nine were only given to the Jews as you cannot dissect the fourth from the other nine. They were given together as one unit. If Christ fulfilled the Sabbath for us it is because the Sabbath exceeded Israel and was "made for [the] man" not just for the Jew.

I agree with this. It is wider than the "rest" from the wilderness journeying brought by Joshua entering into Palestine. It is wider than the "rest" brought by David from defeating all surrounding enemies and it is wider than the "spiritual" rest entered into by all saints previous to and after the cross who believed in the gospel. It is inclusive of "his rest" that is, the rest at Creation which involved PERFECT REST between God and all creation WITHOUT THE PRESENCE OF SIN. That rest has not yet been entered into (Heb. 4:11) and will not until there is a NEW creation. That is precisely why there remaineth the keeping of a BETTER sabbath day (Heb. 4:9) for the people of God - "The Lord's Day."

His rest is identified by Context to be the Sabbath rest at creation (Heb. 4:4-5) rather than the Levitical Sabbath given to Israel. The creation rest exceeded the Jewish application as it was "made for [the man]" by Christ (Mk. 2:27) by the "Lord of the Sabbath" in Genesis 2. "His" rest is a rest that signifies a creation WITHOUT THE PRESENCE OF SIN. That rest is entered into by faith in the gospel in regard to the human "spirit" as what is born of Spirit is spirit. God has cleansed within us a tabernacle for His indwelling - the human spirit but our "soul" and "body" have not yet entered into "His" rest and will not until the NEW heaven and earth occur WITHOUT SIN and we enter into that rest.

The pronoun "he" is Jesus Christ and it the work of Christ that is being compared to the work of God. This "he" is our great high Preist (v. 14) that has entered into this rest in regard to his whole HUMAN NATURE as his whole HUMAN nature is without the presence of sin and in the presence of God. This will not occur for us until we are glorified and in the presence of God (v. 11) within a new creation where God can once again look upon all that He has created and say "very good" as He did in Genesis 1:31 (Rev. 21:1-2).

Jesus ceased from his work of redemption just as God ceased from his work of creating and that is precisely why "there remaineth a Sabbath day observance" for God's people today. However, the Sabbath under the New Covenant is BETTER than the Sabbath observance under the OLD covenant. Our Sabbath day - "The Lord's Day" is without all the Levitical legal codes - it is a day set apart and observed by rejoicing and gladness (Psa. 118:24) as a day of PUBLIC worship in God's house RESTING from self-centered ways (Isa. 58:13) but doing the WORK OF GOD - doing good for others.

I fully agree that we have entered into complete rest in Christ in regard to our spirit and we can enter rest in Christ daily was we "walk as we received the Lord Jesus Christ" (Col. 2:6) but we cannot enter into that "rest" in spirit, soul and body until we are glorified and in God's presence within a creation where God can once again look upon all He has created and say "very good." That is precisely why we observe the "Lord's day" in remembrance of the work of redemption that secures that future rest.

OK, I see. You have widened the scope of the concept of "rest" to include the resurrection and the deliverance thereof (and even beyond):

Romans 8
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.​

And beyond...

2 Peter 3
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.​

Is that correct?​

HankD​
 

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OK, I see. You have widened the scope of the concept of "rest" to include the resurrection and the deliverance thereof (and even beyond):

Romans 8
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.​

And beyond...

2 Peter 3
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.​

Is that correct?​

HankD​

That is correct. I believe that the rest in Hebrews 4:4-11 corresponds to the CREATION REST whereupon God could look and say "very good" and nothing short of that type of rest fulfills the Sabbath.


For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works
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Note the reference of His rest is "from the foundation of the world" and directly with the institution of the creation sabbath (v. 4 = Gen. 2:2-3).

For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

That is precisely why pre-cross believers in the gospel entered into "rest" (Heb. 4:2 "unto them" versus "as well as unto us") and YET OBSERVED A SABBATH DAY.

And that is precisely why today there still remains a "sabbath day observance for the people of God" because that promised rest that fulfills the creation Sabbath has not yet arrived or entered into:

There remaineth therefore a rest [Gr. Sabbatismos = sabbath day observance] to the people of God.
 
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That is correct. I believe that the rest in Hebrews 4:4-11 corresponds to the CREATION REST whereupon God could look and say "very good" and nothing short of that type of rest fulfills the Sabbath.


For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

Note the reference of His rest is "from the foundation of the world" and directly with the institution of the creation sabbath (v. 4 = Gen. 2:2-3).

For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

That is precisely why pre-cross believers in the gospel entered into "rest" (Heb. 4:2 "unto them" versus "as well as unto us") and YET OBSERVED A SABBATH DAY.

And that is precisely why today there still remains a "sabbath day observance for the people of God" because that promised rest that fulfills the creation Sabbath has not yet arrived or entered into:

There remaineth therefore a rest [Gr. Sabbatismos = sabbath day observance] to the people of God.

OK, clear up one more thing for me.

It seems therefore that you see the "remaineth" in verse 9 as a future situation.

However vss 10-11 seem to nullify that idea:

Hebrews 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.​

These verbs are simple past [aorist active (entered is a participle, ceased is indicative)] indicating that there are those who have actually entered (indicative) into this rest as a state of being (participle) and therefore verse 11: encourages "us" also to enter into that rest as if it were possible in the here and now.​

11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.​

Thanks in advance Dr Walter.​

HankD​
 

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OK, clear up one more thing for me.

It seems therefore that you see the "remaineth" in verse 9 as a future situation.

However vss 10-11 seem to nullify that idea:

Hebrews 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.​

These verbs are simple past [aorist active (entered is a participle, ceased is indicative)] indicating that there are those who have actually entered (indicative) into this rest as a state of being (participle) and therefore verse 11: encourages "us" also to enter into that rest as if it were possible in the here and now.​

11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.​

Thanks in advance Dr Walter.​

HankD​

The "he" in verse 10 refers to our Great High Priest in verse 14 not to "the people of God" in verse 9. Only the high priestly work of Christ is comparative to the God's work of creation. The point of comparison is how God ceased from his work and that is clearly and explicitly defined in verse 4. Verse 10 is explanatory of verse 9 and why the "people of God" still observe a Sabbath day. We still observe a Sabbath day because Christ has established a better Sabbath day that commemorates His finished work of redemption which serves as the sure foundation and hope for the eternal "rest" yet to come. It is this eternal "rest" to come that fulfills the design behind the creation sabbath and nothing else can as the creational sabbath commmorated a finished work that was WITHOUT THE PRESENCE OF SIN.
 

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The "he" in verse 10 refers to our Great High Priest in verse 14 not to "the people of God" in verse 9. Only the high priestly work of Christ is comparative to the God's work of creation. The point of comparison is how God ceased from his work and that is clearly and explicitly defined in verse 4. Verse 10 is explanatory of verse 9 and why the "people of God" still observe a Sabbath day. We still observe a Sabbath day because Christ has established a better Sabbath day that commemorates His finished work of redemption which serves as the sure foundation and hope for the eternal "rest" yet to come. It is this eternal "rest" to come that fulfills the design behind the creation sabbath and nothing else can as the creational sabbath commmorated a finished work that was WITHOUT THE PRESENCE OF SIN.

Thanks Dr Walter.
I'll be ruminating on this for a while.

HankD
 

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Thanks Dr Walter.
I'll be ruminating on this for a while.

HankD

OK, I thought about this and want to ask about Hebrews 4:1-3.

Hebrews 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.​

Again, This passage along with verse 11​

11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.​

Seems to indicates that the inspired writer presents the NT believer's "rest" as a present tense reality.​

"do enter into rest" in verse 3 is a present tense clause not future.​

How do you see it?​

Thanks
HankD​
 

Dr. Walter

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OK, I thought about this and want to ask about Hebrews 4:1-3.

Hebrews 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.​

Again, This passage along with verse 11​

11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.​

Seems to indicates that the inspired writer presents the NT believer's "rest" as a present tense reality.​

"do enter into rest" in verse 3 is a present tense clause not future.​

How do you see it?​

Thanks
HankD​

The believer does enter into this rest - spiritually (vv. 1-3). However, Paul including himself and including those professed believes unto whom he writes "Let US" labor to enter into that rest. If Paul had already entered into this rest in its fullest sense there would be no present tense "labor" yet to enter that rest for himself or other believers in the gospel. However, since that rest has its fullest application in spirit, soul and body and since our profession of faith is visibly vindicated when we actually enter into that rest spirit soul and body then it is reasonable for Paul to not merely include himself but all other professed believers to "labor" NOW toward entering that rest. Christ our High Preist and "forunner" has already entered that rest - spirit soul and body in a glorified state. Present continuance in the profession of faith is evidence of a genuine profession and such continuance is unto that day when we enter into rest as a complete glorified person.
 
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The believer does enter into this rest - spiritually (vv. 1-3). However, Paul including himself and including those professed believes unto whom he writes "Let US" labor to enter into that rest. If Paul had already entered into this rest in its fullest sense there would be no present tense "labor" yet to enter that rest for himself or other believers in the gospel. However, since that rest has its fullest application in spirit, soul and body and since our profession of faith is visibly vindicated when we actually enter into that rest spirit soul and body then it is reasonable for Paul to not merely include himself but all other professed believers to "labor" NOW toward entering that rest. Christ our High Preist and "forunner" has already entered that rest - spirit soul and body in a glorified state. Present continuance in the profession of faith is evidence of a genuine profession and such continuance is unto that day when we enter into rest as a complete glorified person.

OK that is reasonable since this "rest" is based upon the believer's present tense force of faith in Jesus Christ and His finished work.

Thanks Dr Walter.
HankD
 

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The Sabbath rest of the seventh day is a legal covenant between God and Israel.

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“The Sabbath rest of the seventh day is a legal covenant between God and Israel.”

So what?
Does it mean it is not a covenant between God and Israel, the fact it is “a legal covenant between God and Israel”?
Does it mean it is not a legal covenant between “God”, “and Israel”?
Does it mean it is not, or it is less, “legal”?
Does it mean it is less, divine? Does it mean it is not between God and the People of GOD—“Israel” the TRUE Israel that is Spiritual Israel?
Does it mean God meant to covenant with apostatizing Israel; that He PURPOSED to close Covenant with UNBELIEVERS?
Does it mean God INTENDED transgression and breaking – making void – of his Word of Law or Covenant?
You DESTROY you argument, “The Sabbath rest of the seventh day is a legal covenant between God and Israel”, with the TRUTH, “The Sabbath rest of the seventh day is a legal covenant between God and Israel”.
So you REVEAL the BASIC FALLACIES of your dogma,

First, that it is illegal for Christians to believe ‘legally’; that we by faith make void all law and the principle of law; that obedience means disobedience or the will to obey is unwillingness to believe. That for a Christian there is no law specifically of the Sabbath Day, otherwise they would have had a Sabbath Day but now they don’t seeing allegedly the Sabbath Law is not repeated in the New Testament.

Then the substance of your antinomian view implies A Covenanted People that aren’t ever covenanted whether ‘Old Testament’ or ‘New Testament’, because God covenanted A People, whom He “endowed / mixed HEARING, WITH FAITH”, indeed “FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD”! God NEVER covenanted UNBELIEVERS; yet God NEVER covenanted the SINLESS either! God COVENANTED with an OATH – The-Oath-of-His-Word : Jesus Christ – : “THEY – the unbelievers or the sinless –, shall never enter into MY, Rest” which is JESUS CHRIST!
THUS God never covenanted another people than the Gospel-of-Christ-Believers. It is INDISPUTABLE here in Hebrews as anywhere else in the Written Word of God : God covenanted Spiritual Israel WHENEVER He has made mention of his Everlasting Covenant of Grace.

Your learned ideology accepts a fickle God. Isaiah says that though a mother might forsake her child, God never will. GOD’S FAITHFULNESS is the guarantee that every part or partner in covenant shall be faithful and persevere to the end. “Here is the patience of the saints: here persevere they that take care to obey God’s Commandments even the Faith of Jesus!” The very God of the Covenant of Grace is covenanted to faithfulness to The Faithful and their faithfulness to Him. The essnce of the Covenant of Grace its immutability in every respect of it, all and interdependent of the God of the Covenant, whether it is the conditions or promises of the Covenant and whether the Covenanter , the covenanted People or the covenant-sign.

Then last, is it not least, that GOD the Covenanter, is He who – whether Sunday-worshippers like it or not – “made the Sabbath” FOR : TO BE “SIGN” of the Covenant of Grace. NOTHING about God’s ONLY Covenant EVER of GRACE, can be changed or stopped or replaced or improved BUT BY CHRIST JESUS AND “IN HIM” and “WITH HIM” and “THROUGH HIM” : FROM GLORY, TO, GLORY.

IN GLORY ONLY do the former dispensation and ministration of God’s Covenant of Grace come short of the GLORY of BOTH the COVENANT and its NEW dispensation in Christ and ministration through Christ; but not at all in principle or in parts or constituency, NONE of which are disposable and are indispensible as God is indispensible to His Covenant. The covenanted People cannot be disposed of or their faithful God and his Faithfulness, must be disposed of.

Therefore is it when God makes anything a sign and humblest subordinate of his covenant that it comes from God and from nothing like man or Law. As dedicated as God is to his Eternal Purpose, as inalienably consecrated is the sign He appointed to it. The sign of it is as much of Grace as is the Covenant and God’s commitment to the Covenant.

“Exodus 31: 16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. 17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever….” Wherein CLEARLY, “Covenant” and “sign” are identified – one and the same thing!

But you DESTROY THE UNITY of God’s Covenant, “Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. 17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth …” Exodus 31:16 “… the SABBATH …. a perpetual COVENANT …. a SIGN.”
And “the SABBATH a perpetual COVENANT (and) SIGN … between _ME_ and the CHILDREN of Israel for EVER”

By two reasons:
One) “…. for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth …”
— which is one thing—
“… and on the Seventh Day God RESTED, and was REFRESHED / REVIVED / RAISED* [= “RESTED-UP” Isaiah 57:15**]”—
—which is ANOTHER thing, namely,
that Jesus’ Resurrection from the dead
“by … the exceeding greatness of … God’s Power”,
“by” which “Power of GOD”,
_GOD_ “made the Sabbath”—
“MADE / / created / instituted / established / confirmed / brought the Sabbath into being (‘egeneto sabbaton’)”—
—“for The Man” (dia ton anthrohpon) and
“The Son of Man” : Jesus Christ (Isaiah 56:2), whom
“God raised from the dead”,
“Sabbath’s” (Matthew 28:1 Isaiah 58:10-14)—
—ALL the Scriptures having ONE, self-establishing, self-confirming, and self-maintaining Message / Gospel of God’s Law the only Law that can save— Jesus Christ.

Notice the action-word used in Isaiah 56:2,4,5 for “keeping” the Sabbath Day.
In Genesis the word ‘shamar’ is used for the ‘keeping-up’ and ‘cultivating / growing’ of life in the garden of Eden.
In the Law in Exodus 20:6 and Deuteronomy 5:10 ‘shamar’ “to keep” means exactly the same as to “love”.
In 3:24 ‘shamar’ means to “protect the Way of the Tree of LIFE”; used 3 times in the Bible for to “protect the apple of the eye” Psalm 17:8, Deuteronomy 32:10 and Proverbs 7:2, “Keep my Law as the apple of thine eye” which means as the very LIFE of me. Psalm 25:20, “O keep my SOUL and DELIVER / SAVE / REDEEM me”, speaking of JESUS CHRIST! Speaking of Jesus Christ the Word declared bfore, “I” – Jesus Christ – “shall not die, but LIVE and DECLARE (keep) the works of the LORD …. He hath not given Me over unto death”.

God “keeps” his Covenant and demands the “keeping” of it as the Life He “keeps” in Jesus Christ.
Yet it is presumed God forsook the People contained in the Promises of the Covenant of his Faithfulness, and the sign of it is become object of their decrial and despising as opposed it the Covenanter in his faithfulness. O worshippers, what more are you going to bring in against “the Seventh Day Sabbath of the LORD GOD” just to worship on Sundays?!

* ‘naphach’ “revive”, “breathe”, “blow”; ‘nephesh’ “life”x119 “soul”x428.
** ‘chayah’ “The Holy”, God who “HID” Himself; “The Holy” whom God “smote”, “revives spirit … revives heart” = ‘anapauoh’ “RESTED-UP” = RESURRECTED! Isaiah 57:15,17.

Note the parallel between Isaiah 57 and 53— verses 15-17.

God who created all breath, all life, all ‘BEING’, is “The Holy One” of God, “The Man” and “The Son of Man who keeps and sanctifies, the Sabbath Day” by the resurrection of Him from the dead, “Sabbath’s / In the Sabbath Day”.
As I have shown before in this discussion, this “son of Man” is “the Seed” whose “INHERITANCE” is the “Israel of God” with “the saints” in “The Body of Christ’s”, “the People of God” : because, “THESE ARE THEY” whom GOD YAHWEH between HIMSELF and _THEM_, “COVENANTED”, and gave “_MY_ Sabbaths”, as “sign” to “FOREVER”.

The MOST BASIC principle of Calvinism – the faithfulness of God through Jesus Christ – forbids me to for one moment concede in favour of the doctrine and idol of man’s Sunday-worshipping.
 
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