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THE SABBATH POLL

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Claudia_T, May 6, 2006.

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THE SABBATH POLL

  1. The Law is abolished and so the Sabbath no longer needs to be kept

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    25.0%

  2. We need to keep the Law of God but the Sabbath doesnt matter

    6 vote(s)
    30.0%

  3. The Law of God still applies and so does the Sabbath but it is Sunday

    9 vote(s)
    45.0%

  4. The Law of God still applies to us today and so does the 7th Day Sabbath

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  1. Bible-boy

    Bible-boy Active Member

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    I am re-opening this thread with the warning to you all not to post giant long direct quotations of other people's works. If it happens again the posts will be deleted without question.
     
    #121 Bible-boy, May 9, 2006
  2. gekko

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    i lost track.

    i think this ties in with the Romans Chapter 7 thread found here: Romans Chapter 7
     
    #122 gekko, May 9, 2006
  3. wopik

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    well said
     
    #123 wopik, May 9, 2006
  4. BobRyan

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    Bump -- so we can see the "poll" of those who are non-SDA and yet choose to honor God's Ten Commandments in the OP
     
    #124 BobRyan, May 12, 2006
  5. Brother Bob

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    Good to see the poll shows only three said the Commandments were abolished or done away with.
     
    #125 Brother Bob, May 12, 2006
  6. Claudia_T

    Claudia_T New Member

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    Now how can that be when there are so many griping at us for saying you still have to keep the Law?
     
    #126 Claudia_T, May 12, 2006
  7. Brother Bob

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    Same ones do a lot of griping I think. [​IMG]
     
    #127 Brother Bob, May 12, 2006
  8. I Am Blessed 24

    I Am Blessed 24 Active Member

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    Jesus did not come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it.

    "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."
    Matthew 5:17

    We do not have to keep the ceremonial laws, but the moral laws are still in effect.
     
    #128 I Am Blessed 24, May 13, 2006
  9. Brother Bob

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    Amen, I Am Blessed 16;
     
    #129 Brother Bob, May 13, 2006
  10. gekko

    gekko New Member

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    ok... what about the Feasts?
     
    #130 gekko, May 13, 2006
  11. I Am Blessed 24

    I Am Blessed 24 Active Member

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    I don't keep Passover - do you?

    What feasts are you talking about specifically?
     
    #131 I Am Blessed 24, May 13, 2006
  12. gekko

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    i dont know a whole lot about the feasts...

    i think passover is much more biblical then easter though... hehe.
     
    #132 gekko, May 13, 2006
  13. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    I don't believe in all these distinctions made between 'ceremonial' and 'moral', 'law/laws'. It's all atrificial. 'Ceremonial' laws are - or were - just as 'moral' as were the 'moral' laws. In fact, since they served but one purpose - to witness of the True Forgiveness of in, Jesus Christ - they are even more 'moral' than the 'mooral' commandments that can only point out our shortcomings and sins.

    So then I believe no 'laws' were ever 'done away with' but in and through Christ by dying ... and by rising again! Therefore we believe and do all 'laws' of the Scriptures if we believe and follow Jesus Christ - especially the 'blood-laws' - since the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the Blood-message' above any other salvation-message the world and history are full of.
     
    #133 Gerhard Ebersoehn, May 13, 2006
  14. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    Paul says the Law was nailed to the corss - that's an indisputable truth - no ways around it. Now look at the cross: Where's any 'law' nailed to it? One sees Jesus nailed there - not instead, but AS God's LAW of all laws! The Law therefore was done away with - sent to hell - in and through our Substitution - WE were the ones supposed to be sent to hell.
    Now THIS LAW of Go's - His own Son - and we in and through HIM, were raised from the dead again. Who could claim His whole WORD of 'law' did return from the dead in and through Jesus Christ? Following and believing in HIM therefore, makes the Christian a Saviour-legalists thereofre. I wish I were a greater Jesus-legalist - making HIM all the Law and every Law of God's, mine.
     
    #134 Gerhard Ebersoehn, May 13, 2006
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    Now as all the Law and laws of God came together in and through Jesus Christ, so all dates and days of feasts all came together upon and through God's FIRST and eventually only "REMAINING" (Hb4:9) Feast and Holy Day of Worship: "THE SABBATH OF THE LORD YOUR GOD". Enjoying, feasting and entering upon a keeping of God's Sabbath Day BECAUSE OF JESUS' RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD, thus becomes the enjoyment and feasting of all feasts of old like the Passover and day of Atonement. Christianity has only ONE 'sabbath-day': The Lord's Day; and by it only, still has the whole of remainder of 'Old-Testament' feasts and days of worship-rest
     
    #135 Gerhard Ebersoehn, May 13, 2006
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    Not a iota or tittle of the law shall pass away UNTIL IT ALL BE FULFILLED - that is, has found its ESSENCE, meaning and applicability and pertinence and ultimate obligation, in and through and because of Jesus Christ the Risen.
     
    #136 Gerhard Ebersoehn, May 13, 2006
  17. Claudia_T

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    No actually it says "till heaven and earth pass away" and lo and behold we are all still here.

    When you fulfill your wedding vows that doesnt mean you stop keeping them. Christ being risen doesnt have a thing to do with it, Thats not scriptural.

    The 10 commandments did not end at the cross, as we can see all through the new testament.

    [ May 13, 2006, 08:05 AM: Message edited by: Claudia_T ]
     
    #137 Claudia_T, May 13, 2006
  18. Claudia_T

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    The ceremonial laws were the laws nailed to the cross, not the 10 commandment law
     
    #138 Claudia_T, May 13, 2006
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    "The Passover was followed by the seven days' feast of unleavened bread. On the second day of the feast, the first fruits of the year's harvest, a sheaf of barley, was presented before the Lord. All the ceremonies of the feast were types of the work of Christ. The deliverance of Israel from Egypt was an object lesson of redemption, which the Passover was intended to keep in memory. The slain lamb, the unleavened bread, the sheaf of first fruits, represented the Saviour.


    In the last Passover our Lord observed with His disciples, He instituted the Lord's Supper in place of the Passover, to be observed in memory of His death." Desire of Ages, pg 77 EG White

    Sorry, I didnt want to have to write all that out so I used her already written out statement.

    These things were all fulfilled in Christ, they were shadows of what was to come. To continue keeping these things is an insult to Christ.

    We keep the Lord's passover supper NOW, for instance now in place of the Passover.

    Unfortunately, first you have have people who try to get rid of the 10 commandment Law, which were meant to stand forever since its never going to be right to kill, steal, worship idols, etc, ....then you have people who try to keep us under all these feast days, which is wrong. Jesus, whom they pointed to, has already come and did what He was supposed to do. They were "shadows" of things to come.

    Claudia

    [ May 13, 2006, 08:09 AM: Message edited by: Claudia_T ]
     
    #139 Claudia_T, May 13, 2006
  20. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    You're right - and that's just what I've said. What do you see nailed to the cross - the TC? or Jesus the Word-Law of God eternal?

    Then let me tell you: "Heaven and earth passed away" when that Galilean died there on that cross, and faced oblivion more real than heaven and earth itself untill such time He would conquer. HERE, is "the Beginning of the creation of God" (Rv3?) and, its "END" or rest. So that on the Day that He rose, creation was established forever, and God's rest, come true. Here was the first Sabbath Day of eternity - the New Testament Sabbath - God's "Holy" once for all into the past as into the future. Don't think linear; think 'global', Christ in resurrection from the dead (past) the centre of all future.
     
    #140 Gerhard Ebersoehn, May 13, 2006
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