The Second Coming Of Our Lord Jesus Christ

[Marcia]

Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die.

The son shall not bear the iniquity (sins) of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son:

the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

In order for a soul to sin, "IT" must commit the sin, Adam's sin condemned "ALL FLESH", (dust to dust) and "Adam's soul", but it didn't condemn any other souls.

A sin is when one "knowing the law/willfully transgresses the law", and where there is "NO LAW", sin is not imputed, such as Infants.

We're born in a "body of sin", already condemned at birth but each soul must commit it's own sin, and each souls will eventually sin, but one sin is all that required to be condemned and no one is "perfect".

We are all born with a sin nature. It's not just the body that has sin. You are making what seems to be a gnostic-type duality between the body and soul. No one is born spiritually neutral.

 

[Me4Him]

We are all born with a sin nature. It's not just the body that has sin. You are making what seems to be a gnostic-type duality between the body and soul. No one is born spiritually neutral.

If the first adam sin "Automatically" condemned all souls, and the second Adam (Jesus) died to pay the wages of all sin,

Why shouldn't all soul "Automatically" be redeemed???

Works both way ya know.

Need to start a new thread for this topic if you want to discuss it.

 

[Ed Edwards]

Second Coming


Ed Edwards: // BTW, ethnic Jews don't care for the term 'Christians' at all. Adolf and his Lutherans killed 6 million ethnic Jews in the name of Christ. //

OldRegular: //
Ed, Do you have any Scripture that supports that fairy tale? //

Is you question about my statement?

I clarify the statement so you can see IT NEEDS NO SCRIPTURE TO SUPPORT:

Current ethnic Jews do not care for the term 'Christians' at all. Current ethnic Jews believe Adolf and his Lutherans killed 6 million ethnic Jews in the name of Christ.

I found it out by talking to current ethnic Jews.

But, of course, my most pre-trib passage: Matt 24 is where I have a scripture for that so-called 'fairy tail'.

Mat 24:9-10 (Geneva Bible, 1599 Edition):
Then shall they deliuer you vp to be afflicted, and shall kill you, and ye shall be hated of all nations for my Names sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

IMHO these are a sign that of the Time of the Gentiles in which we find ourselves are still going. Folks are offended at 'Christ' which isn't a name, but a title - but close enough

 

[Ed Edwards]

What happens if there is no great [ 7 year ] tribulation. No Jews saved or will they be saved just as they are now? The elect, from whatever ethnic group, will be brought to salvation. When the last of the elect is within the Church then Jesus Christ will return followed by a resurrection of all the dead, the just and the unjust, and then the judgment.

Amen, Elder Brother OldRegular -- Preach it! :thumbs:

I"m happy you can come up with better pro-pretrib arguments than I, the pretrib fellow, can come up with. That is really cool, dude! Thank you!

 

[Dr. Bob]

This thread is just a TAD over the 10-page limit, so will close 'er down! :thumbs: