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The Seed of Israel

Brightfame52

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A Saviour unto Israel​

Acts 13:23

Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

This was not peter here, but Paul, the apostle unto the gentiles, who makes this very important statement, and sheds much light upon for whom Jesus Christ came to save as according to promise..

Another important scripture that lends to the truth of this is Lk 1:68-69


68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people, [see Matt 1: 21]

69
And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David; 70 As he spake [or promised] by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:

This promise of redemption of His people, as the Lord God of Israel, hath been revealed and promised since the world began..

This takes us back to the first proclamation of the promised salvation or redemption to Gen 3:15

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel

This seed of the women would be Israel [Christ and His People] .and the which, salvations first promise is to and for this seed Israel, the seed of the women..

This is some what typed out or signified in Rev 12:1-2

1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

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And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. [the birth of Jesus Christ]

This women had also a seed as we see later in Rev 12:17

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

[ so Christ and his Members are the seed of the women Gal 3:16,29]


So salvation and redemption from the conception of the world, had only a particular seed in view, which later became known as Israel.

But now, its important to understand, that the Israel Paul is referring to in Acts 13:23 is not Israel according to the flesh. But Israel according to Promise.

Lets show here how Paul discerned another Israel other than national Israel Rom 9:6

Not as though the word [or promise] of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel [Acts 13:23],] which are of Israel [nationally]:

You see, the promises of redemption and salvation as stated in Lk 1:68-70, to the people of God, the God of Israel, the promise were not to national Israel..but a spiritual remnant within that nation, and as we will find out, a spiritual remnant among the nations of the world, which constituted Israel,[Rom 11] the one Paul preached in Acts 13:23

Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

Now Paul had the Israel of God [Rom 9:6] in view when he made this statement in the above.

Now get this next point, for its tricky, but nevertheless its extremely important because of the symmetry and analogy of scripture.

The difference between what Paul preached here in Acts 13 :23 and what peter taught here in Acts 5:31

Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

The difference is this. For peter was correct in that Jesus was exalted to the right hand of God to give repentance to a certain chosen people Israel. But what peter did not know but what Paul did know is this:

That Israel was no longer viewed as a mere physical ethnic nation, but that Israel was comprised of Gentiles as well, who became Israel.

Notice Eph 2:12,19

12 That at that time ye [gentiles] were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

They [Gentiles] are now no more strangers and aliens, but fellowcitizens [of Israel Gods Chosen people] and so now they also have the same right to be called Israel,

in fact, even more of a right than the non elect jews of that nation. Because the Israel of God was never non elect jews, but Elect Jews like Jacob over Esau or Isaac over Ishmael. Children of promise.

So salvation and redemption has always been limited unto Israel as a people, but the mystery that was not clearly unveiled since the world began [Gen 3:15]

Eph 3:3-6

3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;


6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: [Lk 1: 68-70]


In that Israel was made up of Gentiles also. Yes that's the unveiling in more detail by Paul of this mystery [Israel of God was never a physical nation but a Spiritual people or Nation Rom 2,1Pet 2 ]

but nevertheless, true to promise, salvation and redemption is and has always been limited to a Chosen people [Israel] not limited to a certain geographical location as national Israel in the middle east or a certain ethical people [respect of persons], but the scope of this Israel of God is world wide. But nevertheless its only to the world of Gods Israel, all others, are blinded.

You know how Paul says in Rom 9: 6

For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:


So likewise, they are not all the world [for whom Christ died] which are of the world [the inhabited earth]

Just like there was an Israel within Israel that God had a respect and favor for, likewise there is a world within the world that God has a special regard for, and that world is the Israel of God, the Spiritual seed of Abraham.
 

Brightfame52

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Salvation Limited to Israel


Here are some more scriptures that set forth the particular nature of salvation from types..

In looking forward to the work of the cross and its accomplishments and its attending blessings, and to who they applied, we have this in Zech 12:10

10And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Notice here to whom the spiritual blessings of repentance was to be poured out to..

Not everyone in the whole wide world, but to the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

The Jerusalem here is not the city in Israel, but the Jerusalem from above:

Gal 4:12

But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Heb 12:23

But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

Zech 12 is describing their conversion because of the power and blessings of the cross..

Notice it says the house of David ! The House of David or the Tabernacle of David includes the gentiles..

This we see Acts 15:14-16

14Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.


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And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,

16After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

The gentiles are called the tabernacle of David, intimating the mystery that paul fully taught about in His Ministry, but we see here that the apostle James had somewhat been enlightened of the scripture, for he quotes Amos 9:11-12


11In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:

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That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.

And he of course applies this to the out calling of a people from amongst the gentiles to be a people for Gods name sake. The LORD GOD OF ISRAEL..

Zech 13:1

1In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.

Again, particularly pointing out to whom the fountain was open to that cleanses from sin and uncleaness [the blood of Christ] it was not to or for all mankind, but for the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the house of David.

These designations indicate Gods elect apart from the other inhabitants of the world..

So God has always kept a particular discriminate people to whom He deals with favorably, over and above other people. And its by His grace alone.
 

Brightfame52

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More on the Mystery

Back to the Mystery that Paul was called to expound on more so than any other apostle, and which he proclaimed[ by the gospel] is that the True

Israel of God [ Gal 6:16], the True seed of abraham [ Rom 9:8 , Heb 2:16] who are the heirs of the promises of God [ Gal 3: 7,29 ; 2 Cor 1:20; Rom 15:8; Acts 13:32] are a body composed of all those, wether jew by birth or gentile by birth, who are of the Faith of abraham, who is the father of us all [Rom 4:16,13]vs 13

13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

The world here is that world that Abraham was made Father of as in Gen 17:5

5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.

People of the many nations are this world.
 

Brightfame52

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Jesus Christ being a Saviour is not complete if sinners are not converted unto Him and God. Even David , after being restored, promised God that sinners would be converted unto Thee Ps 51:12-13

12Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.

13Then will I teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee.

Now how much more, the Great Antitype, who was restored by His resurrection from the grave, how much more will He teach sinners [by his Holy Spirit] and that they shall be converted unto God ?

That was one of the ends in Jesus christ dying, in order to bring the sheep back to God.. 1 Pet 3:18

18For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

So the death of christ doesnt just make salvation possible, but it in fact makes effectual the conversion of all for whom He died and rose again.
 

Brightfame52

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The seed of Israel shall be justified !


In keeping with the particular , discriminating nature of Gods Love and Salvation. That its for a special people Israel as Paul preached in Acts 13:23

23Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

No promise to anyone else..



here is more scripture proof of the same: Isa 45:25

25In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory

In the LORD, that is in the Lord Jesus Christ, whom is the True Israel of God. Isa 49:3

3And said unto me, Thou [Jesus Christ] art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.


For it is He [ Jesus Christ] that Has prevailed with God, whom is a Prince with God, and His seed with Him, that is, those who had been chosen in him before the world began .Eph 1:4

Isa 49:3Thou are my Servant , O Israel in whom I will be Glorified cp Jn 17:4

4I I [Jesus Christ] have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.


Now those chosen in Him [ Jesus Christ], are too created for Gods Glory Isa 43:7,21

7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

21This people [not all people] have I formed for myself; they shall shew forth my praise.

1 Pet 2:9

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Now the Promise of Justification is for Israel [ a distinct people] and not Israel after the Flesh, for all the promises to her were conditional and confined to this earth, and that covenant she broke :

Jer 31:32

32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

Heb 8:9

9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

But the Israel of God, chosen In the True Israel Servant of God, The Lord Jesus Christ..

The Gospel promises have always been directed towards a certain seed, a special chosen people of God known as Israel. Which fleshly Israel only typified, because the True Israel is not chosen by race, but by Grace. For The Lord is the Hope of His people Israel.

Joel 3:16

16 The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.


Paul preached even as the Apostle to the gentiles [and because he knew the mystery] That God raised up a Saviour unto the whole world ? No, but unto Israel He raised up a Savior.

The Lord is the Hope of His people, not the devils People..

Closing references:

Isa 43:20-21

20 The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen.

21This people have I formed for myself; they shall shew forth my praise.

Joel 2:26,27,32

26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.

27And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.

32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. cp Acts 2:39

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For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.


The Angel announced this blessed Truth about Jesus Matt 1:21

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And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.


All those who teach that there is no discrimination with God, in that He chose a special people above all the Rest to be their God, and they His People and wrought salvation for them..


All such are teaching a false Gospel.
 

Brightfame52

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Israel shall be saved !

Isa 45:17

17But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

But Israel [ The Elect of God] shall [no doubt about it] be saved in the LORD [ Yahweh in Christ] with an everlasting Salvation..and they [ The Elect or the Israel of God] shall [no doubt about it] not be ashamed nor confounded world without end..

What Israel is spoken of here ? Remember Paul teaches that all are not Israel [ of the Election of Grace] that are of Israel [ the nation]

This Israels salvation is premised upon the Blood of the Everlasting Covenant, and not the Mosaic law at Sinai..

This Israel is comprised of the Children of Promise per Rom 9:7-8


7Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8

That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

So the Children of Promise here in vs 8 and the first mentioned Israel in vs 6 are the same.

And thats the Israel in view in Isa 45:17

And their Salvation is sure and based upon the Immutable Counsel of The LORD.
 

Brightfame52

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Israel Shall Be Saved in the LORD​

Isaiah 45:17 declares:

“But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.”
Notice carefully what Isaiah says. He does not merely say that Israel shall be saved because of physical descent. He says Israel shall be saved “in the LORD.”

The sphere and ground of this salvation is the LORD Himself.

This becomes very important when we read Isaiah together with Paul's explanation of who constitutes the saving people of God.

1. Not all physical Israel is the Israel of God's saving purpose​

Paul explicitly makes this distinction in Romans 9:

“For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel.”
— Romans 9:6
And he immediately explains:

“They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
— Romans 9:8
Therefore, physical descent from Abraham does not, by itself, define the Israel that possesses God's saving promise.

There was an Israel within Israel—the children of promise who were counted for the seed.

The distinction is not between two different Gods or two unrelated peoples. It is a distinction between physical descent and God's sovereign covenant promise.

2. The children of promise are counted as the seed​

Paul says:

“Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.”
— Galatians 4:28
Isaac himself was the child of promise. His existence as the promised son did not originate in human ability or natural strength. God Himself fulfilled His promise to Abraham and Sarah.

Paul uses Isaac as the pattern for the children of promise.

This is consistent with John 1:13, concerning those who are born of God:

“Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”
The point is not that faith has no place in salvation. Scripture plainly teaches that God's children believe in Christ. The point is that faith does not originate the promise or cause God to make someone a child of promise. God Himself brings His promised children into being and brings them to faith.

3. The promise ultimately centers in Christ​

Paul says:

“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made... And to thy seed, which is Christ.”
— Galatians 3:16
So Christ is the promised Seed.

And then Paul says:

“For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.”
— Galatians 3:26
And:

“If ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
— Galatians 3:29
There is the connection.

Christ is the promised Seed, and those who belong to Christ are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise.

Therefore, the defining characteristic of the saving seed is not physical ethnicity but covenant existence in Christ.

4. Abraham was made the father of many nations​

God told Abraham:

“A father of many nations have I made thee.”
— Genesis 17:5
That promise was never exhausted merely by Abraham's physical descendants through Isaac.

Paul explains its broader fulfillment through Christ:

“So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.”
— Galatians 3:9
And:

“There is neither Jew nor Greek... for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”
— Galatians 3:28
Paul is not saying that Jews and Greeks cease to have different ethnic identities. He is saying that ethnicity does not determine one's covenant standing in Christ.

The determining reality is Christ.

5. This is why “Israel shall be saved in the LORD” is so important​

Isaiah 45:17 does not merely say:

“Israel shall be saved because they are Israelites.”

It says:

“Israel shall be saved in the LORD.”
The saving Israel is defined by its relationship to the LORD.

The New Testament reveals that this saving purpose is fulfilled in Christ, the promised Seed.

Thus Romans 9:8 becomes essential:

“The children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
And Galatians 3:29 gives the New Testament conclusion:

“If ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Therefore, the Israel that possesses everlasting salvation is not defined merely by physical ethnicity. It is defined according to God's covenant promise fulfilled in Christ.

This does not require saying that God abandoned national Israel, nor does it require saying that Gentiles simply replaced Jews.

Rather, Scripture gives us a more precise distinction:

Physical Israel — those descended from Israel according to the flesh.

The children of promise — those whom God counts as the promised seed.

Christ — the promised Seed in whom the Abrahamic promises find their fulfillment.

Those who belong to Christ — Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise.

So when Isaiah says:

“Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation,”
the decisive words are “in the LORD.”

God's saving Israel exists covenantally in Him.

And because the promises ultimately center in Christ, the true question is not merely:

“What is your ethnicity?”

The biblical question is:

“Do you belong to Christ, the promised Seed?”

For “if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

That is why the children of promise are counted for the seed.

Israel shall be saved in the LORD—not by fleshly descent as the determining cause, but according to God's everlasting covenant promise fulfilled in Christ, the promised Seed.
 

Brightfame52

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cont, Israel shall be saved in the Lord

The children of the flesh , Abraham's seed, these are not the children of God, that is Israel but The children of the promise are counted as the seed, that is Israel. Rom 9:8

8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed

The children of the promise are counted [reckoned or determined] as the seed, The seed of Israel. Ps 22:23

Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.

This seed of Israel is not based upon race, but grace of election, and comprises men and women of all different ethnic groups..

The children of promise are brought into the world and into the fellowship of salvation as Isaac was.

Gal 4:28

28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

That is, we are children given to someone , by the promise of the word of God.

Isaac was not consulted or did not believe anything to become a child of promise. Neither do true believers in Jesus Christ. We [ believers] become so, because we were children of promise, Gods promise.

lets read a little.. Isaac was not born according to the natural course of life or things, for Abraham and Sarah both were up in age, and said to be past the time of life: perhaps denoting they were past the natural ages of having children. She 89 and He 90..But Isaac was promised to the aged couple in spite of natures obstacle, and hence his birth is accomplished by the word and promise and power of God, and not the strength or determination of the human will. And this is where we get the words or ideal of this:

Jn 1:13

Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

The children of promise, the Israel of God, are born of God.

Paul writes to the Galatians, Now we brethren, as Isaac was are children of promise. Note: believers in Jesus Christ are so, because they were children of promise. And not because they believed God as one false teacher reiterates constantly.. for Isaac was a child of promise before he believed anything. And so are the rest of the children of promise.

The children of promise are the seed, talked about earlier in the same book of Galatians:

reading Gal 3:16

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

What promise ? Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

The promise to Abraham was preached to him by God, that in Him , all nations shall be blessed. That is become as faithful Abraham per Gal 3:9

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

becoming believers in Jesus Christ as Abraham was see Jn 8:56

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Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it [by Faith], and was glad.

so then all future believers in Jesus Christ make manifest that they were blessed with faithful Abraham as their Father..in that He was a Father of many nations per Gen 17:5

5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.

Notice, a Father of many nations have i made thee, opposed to just being the Father of natural Israel..so we know here God is speaking spiritually, and of all those who would believe on Jesus Christ as being the manifested seed of Abraham per Gal 3:26-29


26 For ye are all the children of God [Israel] by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

See, their is no race difference in the Israel of God, the Children of Promise.

God gave Abraham and Jesus Christ [BTW, The promise was first given to Him] faithful children by His promise..

So the Israel that shall be saved in the LORD are the children of promise comprised of individuals from many nations. 1
 

Brightfame52

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Israel Shall Be Saved in the LORD

Isaiah 45:17 declares:

“But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.”
Notice the certainty of the language:

Israel shall be saved.

Not merely offered salvation.

Not merely given an opportunity to be saved.

Not merely made savable upon the condition that their independent will ultimately activates the work of God.

Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation.

This everlasting salvation rests upon the everlasting covenant of God. David testified:

“Although my house be not so with God; yet he hath made with me an everlasting covenant, ordered in all things, and sure: for this is all my salvation...”
— 2 Samuel 23:5
David's salvation was grounded in a covenant that was:

Everlasting.
Ordered in all things.
Sure.


That is the language of divine promise and covenant certainty.

Israel and the Seed of Abraham​

The New Testament reveals that the saving promises made to Abraham ultimately find their fulfillment in Christ and in those who belong to Him.

Paul writes:

“And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.”
— Galatians 3:8
The salvation of the Gentiles was therefore not an afterthought. Scripture foresaw it in the promise made to Abraham.

Paul continues:

“So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.”
— Galatians 3:9
And later he identifies the ultimate Seed of Abraham:

“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made... And to thy seed, which is Christ.”
— Galatians 3:16
Then Paul draws the conclusion:

“And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
— Galatians 3:29
Therefore, those who belong to Christ are Abraham's seed and heirs of the covenant promise.

The inheritance is not ultimately secured by mere natural descent, but through union with Christ, the promised Seed.

The Grafting In of the Gentiles​

This is precisely what Paul develops in Romans 11.

He explains that:

“Blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”
— Romans 11:25
The Gentiles are brought into the covenant people of God through Christ. They are not brought into a separate plan of salvation, nor does God have one everlasting salvation for ethnic Israel and another unrelated salvation for the Gentiles.

There is one people of God, gathered through the promised Messiah.

And therefore Paul says:

“And so all Israel shall be saved.”
— Romans 11:26
The Deliverer comes out of Zion and saves the covenant people of God.

The mystery Paul describes is not that the Gentiles are saved apart from Israel's covenant promises. Rather, the Gentiles are brought into the blessing promised to Abraham through the promised Seed.

Therefore the people of God consist of believing Jews and believing Gentiles united in Christ.

As Paul says elsewhere:

“For he is our peace, who hath made both one...”
— Ephesians 2:14
And again:

“Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God.”
— Ephesians 2:19

Israel Shall Be Saved​

Isaiah's promise stands:

“Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation.”
And Paul reveals the saving mystery of how the covenant people are gathered: the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, the Deliverer saves from Zion, and all Israel shall be saved.

The physical descendants of Abraham are not the ultimate definition of the saving people of God merely by natural birth. The promises find their center in Christ, the Seed of Abraham.

And:

“If ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed.”
Therefore, all who belong to Christ inherit the Abrahamic promise through Him.

Christ is the promised Seed.

Those who belong to Christ are Abraham's seed.

The Gentiles are brought into the covenant people through Him.

And Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation.


The salvation is everlasting because the covenant is everlasting.

The covenant is sure.

And therefore the salvation of God's covenant people is sure.

All the covenant seed gathered into Christ shall be saved. 1
 

Brightfame52

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Ps 130:7-8

Ps 130:7-8

7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.

8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities. See Titus 2:14

This is not speaking about Israel of the flesh, but the Israel of God, Gods chosen people..

You see, there is a Israel that is comprised of all the seed of Abraham, the children of promise, which is made up of both elect jews and gentiles..

Rom 9:6-8

6Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

7Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

8That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

But this gives us to be reminded that only a chosen people have the right and privilege to hope in the LORD and His redemption.
 

Brightfame52

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Rom 9:6/Two


Rom 9:6

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

According to this verse, is Paul recognizing Two distinct Israel's ? If yes, what is the difference of the Two ?

If no, then why did He use those words like that ? 1
 

Brightfame52

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There was a national Israel and a remnant Israel.. Rom 9:6

Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

Rom 9:27

27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:

Rom 11:4-7

4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a Remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

The promises of old were to Israel the Remnant, who were in National Israel, and God has been faithful to His promises to the Remnant Israel, that's why Paul says:

Rom 11:1-2

1I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.

So the promises has always been not to all of the nation of Israel, but to a remnant within the nation. Which too is Israel, the Israel of God. 2
 

Brightfame52

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Who Is Israel ?


The True Israel of God is really Jesus Christ. There are scriptures that indicate this i.e Isa 49:1-3

1Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.

2 And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me; 3

And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.

Jesus Christ was the antitype of Jacob or Israel, being the Head and Representative of the whole Israel of God, which is His body, the church.

The prophecy in Hosea indicates that Jesus Christ is Gods Son Israel
Hos 11:1

When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.

Now see how the Holy Spirit applies this too Jesus in Matt 2:15

And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.

So Israel is all those who are in Union with Gods Son Israel..for they were chosen in Him

Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

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Brightfame52

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I am the True Vine Israel

Jn 15:1

1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

Jesus here is intimating that He is the True Israel..for vine represents Israel in scripture. Now remember how that the Son out of egypt intimated Jesus as Israel i.e Hos 11:1

1 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.

Matt 2:15

15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.

Now there is more scripture confirmation that this son called out of egypt, which was christ typified, also is typified by a vine, lets look at Ps 80:8

8 Thou hast brought a vine out of Egypt: thou hast cast out the heathen, and planted it.

This vine out of egypt, is Jesus the True Israel, the True vine of Jn 15: 1

And it serves to reason, all those chosen in Him before the foundation are the true Sons of Israel.
 

Brightfame52

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Rom 11:28

Rom 11:28

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

The unbelieving Jews were enemies of the gospel and to all who were true believers, both jew and gentile. For Paul himself as an unbelieving jew was a enemy to those who preached and believed the gospel [ 1 Tim 1:13 ; Acts 9], but as for the election of grace within Israel, these are loved for the promises made to fathers sake, the promises that there would be deliverance for ethnic jews is kept by God in the deliverance of the election of grace within the Jewish people, as Paul himself was an example of [ Rom 11:1] So this verse here speaks as Rom 9:6 contrasting the two Israel's, which are Unbelieving Israel the enemies of the gospel [ permanently ] and the remnant which is according to the election of grace, who of course start out as enemies by nature as Paul did , but will be delivered or converted to Jesus Christ as Paul was.. The remnant along with the believing gentiles is how all Israel will be saved, and at the same time God being Faithful to ethnic Jews who are part of the election of grace.2
 

Brightfame52

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When the fulness of the gentiles has come in, it will be no longer time for any to be grafted into the olive tree, at that time [ the end] all Israel shall be saved [ Not National Israel] but all Israel, the Israel of God, all them chosen in the True servant Israel, Jesus Christ [ isa 49 ], this is clearly stated Rom 11:26. Again Jesus is the Israel of whom the promises pertained [ gal 3:16] also see isa 49:1-3 of which it is said, has a sword in His mouth and His Name is Israel. Isa 49:1-3

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me

from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.

2 And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me; 3And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.

No doubt this is Jesus Christ, and except one is in Christ, they are not of the Israel of promise, which again is why Paul writes Rom 9:6. There was a national external covenant Israel, through the Law [ Ex 20], and there is the eternal covenant Israel through election in Jesus Christ before the world began, the foreknown Rom 11:1.

Now if Jesus Christ is the Israel per Isa 49, Hos 1 ; Matt 2:15; and Ps 80:8, then the Church, His body, is the representation of the body of Israel.

When the last elect jew or gentile is brought into fellowship with Jesus Christ their Head, then the end shall come. 2
 
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