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The Sin of Day Care

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by sanderson1769, Mar 18, 2007.

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  1. donnA

    donnA Active Member

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    I guarentee him and others like him have no idea the the world is really like when your poor and have children, and they do not intend on helping those who need it.
     
  2. His Blood Spoke My Name

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    his idea of helping is causing the child to cry out in fear of him as he weilds the baseball bat.
     
  3. Mike Berzins

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    What Sanderson said about the day cares was not absurd, but was quite accurate. The fact that there is an exception somewhere does not negate his point, nor is the way he made the point inappropriate. An illustartion is in order.

    Every week the garbage men take away the garbage from my house and that of my neighbors. If they did not, one of my neighbors might call up the company and say "Please remove all this filthy stinking trash from the neighborhood. All of this garbage is vile, and needs to be incinerated."

    Now it just so happens that the bible I use when I go out preaching, was found in somebodies garbage can (really). Suppose I said to my neighbor, who had just spoken ill against the garbage, "How dare you speak against garbage! Did you know I found my bible in the garbage? How can you say all garbage is bad? Your proposition that all garbage is worthy of incineration is absurd."

    In actuality the fact I found a bible in the garbage would not disprove the man's contention. Indeed, my contention would be the absurd one.

    So it is with the case at hand. The contention that the point Sanderson made based on his experience at the day care (which is typical of day-care in America) must be 100% without exception true in every case or else he is being absurd and insulting - that contention is what is in fact absurd.

    What I have noticed, is that these perilous times we live in have bred very effeminate men, even among the people of God. If someone preaches the truth in a plain manner, men recoil and think the man is not "loving" - because he has offended their delicate sensibilities. Oh that God would raise up some men in these last days that would not be so easily offended, but would receive the truth with gladness.
     
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    And again, because the bearer of this message has indeed brought absurd messages before, another thread was opened so that this could be discussed without his presence hanging over it. Please come and join us there.

    The fact that Sanderson raised a good point does not negate the point. But have you noticed that Sanderson has not been back to discuss the topic. While this is a good one, others have not been. So, please join us on the other thread.
     
  5. DodgeRamFanatic

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    I've checked out Sanderson's web-site. I've read his views. I don't agree with everything he says, but he stands up for a lot of things that I do agree with. I admire him for wanting to do what's right, and I admire his courage.

    Yes, I did know that I can "think" myself happy! After all, our mood often depends on what we're thinking about, right? When are you happiest, when you're thinking about the pickup truck in the garage for two weeks, or when you're thinking about the livestock auction outing coming up next month? :saint: ;)

    Sorry, rbell, I posted that with a grin on my face. Didn't think you'd take it seriously. If you didn't take this guy wrong everything he sticks his head up, it wouldn't have sounded insulting. But anyways, forgive me if my post came across as imflammatory. That wasn't the intention.

    The thing that drives me insane is that, even if Sanderson posted something that you all agreed on, you still wouldn't agree with him because of who he supposedly is. Instead of looking at the poster all the time (and I'm preaching to myself here, as well), why don't we look at the post, read it thoroughly, then say, "God, are you trying to tell me something?"

    DRF
     
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  6. ccrobinson

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    You assume too much.
     
  7. rbell

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    I'm sorry I misunderstood you earlier. My bad.
     
  8. saturneptune

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    Why isnt this Sanderson guy banned?
     
  9. rbell

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    I dunno...maybe it's because whenever Spamderson posts, we end up having some good fun & fellowship. Although I'm sure that's not his intention.
     
  10. Bible Believing Bill

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    He probably hasn't been banned because he disappears and dosnen't sling insults. Most of the people banned from the BB have been banned for persoanl attacks.

    Bill
     
  11. EdSutton

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    I actually found, albeit quite by accident, a couple of what I think are fitting 'smilieys' for 'spamderson', 'er I mean sanderson1769.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    :rolleyes:

    Ed
     
  12. Mike Berzins

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    Of course it's a sin to crowd little toddler's around the devil's box. I hope the child in your picture is never subjected to that wicked device.

    The television really is the American Idol. And sadly, some on this discussion have equated smashing an idol with smashing people. I guess when one's idol is attacked, it makes one unable to think clearly.

    I wonder if any children were crying when Elijah dealt with the prophets of Baal? Or when the Lord Jesus drove out the money changers with a scourge of cords?

    John 2:
    14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:
    15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;

    Little children, keep yourselves from idols.
     
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    Mike -

    We're all guilty of idols. But your blanket accusation to webdog and others is shallow at best.

    ANYTHING can be an idol, Mike, even "always having to be right," like seemingly Mr. Anderson. I can't judge his heart, but his actions lean that direction in my opinion.

    "ANYTHING I put before my God is an idol.
    ANYTHING I want with all my heart is an idol.
    ANYTHING I can't stop thinking of is an idol.
    ANYTHING that I give all my love is an idol.
    We must not worship something that's not even worth it,
    Clear the stage, make some space for the One who deserves it.
    I can sing all I want to, and still get it wrong:
    Worship is more than a song."

    --Ross King "Clear the Stage" (C) 2002 Ross King www.rosskingmusic.com

    Wise words, Ross.
     
  14. rbell

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    Question, Mike: Is Gold evil? Yes or no?

    Can't answer, can you?

    Of course not...because gold is just a metal. It can be made into an idol, a wedding ring, or a coin that I give to God. It's what I do with it that matters.

    TV's are not evil. Their usage can be. They are a tool...just like your telephone, or computer. A telephone can transmit a wonderful message:
    • "I love you."
    • "We're all OK."
    • "You'v just won Ten Million Dollars."
    Or it can transmit a horrible message:
    • "Your friend didn't make it."
    • "I want a divorce."
    • "I hate you."
    But the message is not the phone's fault. It just carries it.

    Two other reactions I have to your post:
    1. Because we call out Spamderson for his outrageous antics, that makes us "idol worshippers?" What a goofy accusation.
    2. I can't believe you're comparing this guy to Elijah. You might want to be more informed before you compare one of the great prophets of God to a guy...
      • Who has said, verbatim, "I have one God--the King James Bible."
      • Who advocates the death penalty for homosexuals, and claims that there's no way God can save them.
      • Who adds scores of extra-biblical regulations to God's Holy Word.
    Methinks you've made some logical errors here.
     
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