The soul is NOT the Body - Mt. 10:28

[DHK]

You called me a liar when I said you said that we could commune with demons unknowingly, and now you are carrying on as if you did nothing wrong by denying it and accusing me of lying. Whom do you think you are fooling with all this jumbled talk?

If you don't want to debate intelligently then don't.
Mankind can commune with demons as can the unsaved.
I said that a better word for a Christian is that he can be influenced by demons, but he communes with God. Read carefully.

You think that Christians commune with demons unknowingly, and you are supposed to make me question my salvation? lol

I said that the Christians at Corinth were unknowingly being influenced by demons for some of them were unknowingly calling Jesus Christ accursed. That was the situation. Whether you agree with me or not is irrelevant.

You are a liar when you said I was lying.

When you misrepresent what I say it turns out to be a lie doesn't it?

God knows what you are doing.

Yes he does. I am trying to explain to you a passage of Scripture. But you don't want to discuss it. So maybe we should drop it.

I did quote you with the quote function, and you said exactly what I said you did. Do you think no one here has sense enough to see that you are not honest?

Quite often you do not use the quote function.

You deny what is plainly in sight for all to see, just imagine what you put people through who talk to you in person, they have no recording to prove you said what you did. God knows.

These false accusations are demonstrations of your heart attitude and have nothing to do with the OP or any relevant discussion. Your attack against me is needless, and shows that indeed you sin, and do it every day.

 

[Moriah]

Let's clarify.

I didn't say anything about Christians communing with demons. Don't put words into my mouth.

To all reader, DHK plainly says here that he “didn't say anything about Christians communing with demons. Don't put words into my mouth.”
See next post of mine showing DHK did say Christians commune with demons.
DHK, If you want to drag this out and continue to lie about what was and was not said, then I will continue to show all readers the truth.

 

[Moriah]

1 Corinthians 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

The point is that our spirit can commune.
1. It can commune with an evil spirit and call Christ accursed.
2. It can commune by the Holy Spirit and call Christ Lord.
Isn't that what this verse says?

What does this part of the verse mean?

No man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
How does a person speak through the Holy Spirit unless he himself has a spirit? It is the spiritual part of the man that communes with God. What other aspect of man would commune with God?

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1 Corinthians 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

God is in your body and in your spirit.
Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is in you.
--Can you grasp these truths?

To the reader, here you see plainly that DHK said we could commune with demons.

 

[DHK]

Then at least try and understand the verse--the problem at Corinth.
1 Corinthians 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

The fact that Paul states this means that there were some in Corinth that were calling Jesus accursed. Will you agree to that?
But it wasn't by the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit would never call Christ accursed. Paul is writing to believers, and yet somehow some of these "believers" were calling Christ accursed. How is this possible? Let's look at context:

1 Corinthians 12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
--The context is spiritual gifts. He doesn't want them to be ignorant of spiritual gifts. In fact all three chapters. 12-14 are teaching about spiritual gifts.

1 Corinthians 12:2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
--He reminds them of their pagan past. BTW, in their pagan past they spoke in tongues ecstatically, and sometimes by the power of demonic spirits. Paul was warning them not to revert back to their pagan past. In the past they worshiped idols. Behind every idol is a demon, a spirit. They used to worship them.

1 Corinthians 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
--Again the context is spiritual gifts.
One of the most abused spiritual gifts, and most rebuked spiritual gifts was that of speaking in tongues. I believe this is what Paul is referring to here. "In the Holy Spirit" they would call Jesus Lord, no matter what language or tongue was being spoken. But sometimes, being influenced by a demon, they would speak another language and call Jesus accursed. Someone else would recognize the language. They would know that person is not speaking of God. The Holy Spirit does not call Christ accursed. It is another spirit, a demonic spirit that is doing this.

Just like in many circles today, the Corinthians wanted "the more showy gifts." They wanted the gifts that made them look more spiritual. And the gift of tongues did just that. Often that "gift" wasn't a gift. It was, as it is today, either demonic, or ecstatic. So it was then. The real gift had a purpose. But some of them were imitators and had no business trying to imitate a spiritual gift. They were calling Christ accursed and not knowing it.

This is what I said.
If you don't want to discuss the topic, then I will close the thread.