The Stars

[HeirofSalvation]

The speed of light, about 186,000 miles per second, is constant. Therefore light emitted from the surface of our sun takes about 8 minutes to reach earth. Over that interval, the light is "in transit."

Bottom line, no one has an answer that seems solid when studied, no matter how loud the YEC and OEC shout. Job 38 provides that real answer.

Let's read Scripture:
God created the LIGHT on Day one..day uno...day un....day einz...

God created the STARS on Day four...day quatro...day quatre....day veir....let's do it in "Belarusian" just for fun: day Чатыры

Day 1: Light
Day 4: Star

How is this so hard to understand?

 

[HeirofSalvation]

Apparent age: When the folks sipped the wine at Cana, did they think it didn't exist minutes ago, or did they think it was produced over a similar time span as the wine they had been drinking before?

From an article: "Many young Earth creationists distinguish their own hypotheses from the "Omphalos hypothesis", today more commonly referred to as the apparent age concept, put forth by the naturalist and science writer Philip Henry Gosse. Omphalos was an unsuccessful mid-19th century attempt to reconcile creationism with geology. Gosse proposed that just as Adam had a navel (omphalos is Greek for navel), evidence of a gestation he never experienced, so also the Earth was created ex nihilo complete with evidence of a prehistoric past that never actually occurred. The Omphalos hypothesis allows for a young Earth without giving rise to any predictions that would contradict scientific findings of an old Earth. Although both logically unassailable and consistent with a literal reading of Scripture, Omphalos was rejected at the time by scientists on the grounds that it was completely unfalsifiable and by theologians because it implied to them a deceitful God, which they found theologically unacceptable."

This is studied confusion....The earth doesn't appear "old"......it appears like it was once catastrophically destroyed by a massive and violent FLOOD....as the Scriptures already clearly state for us in Genesis...

And then....lest we STILL don't get it....re-itterates itself in:
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

The "World that then was"....perished

Or died, or:......well, I hope we all get it now.

1.)Pre-flood world
2.)Post-flood world

 

[Van]

So the world does not appear old? Lots of folks reject that absurd assertion. Say the OEC for one group.

God did create light on day one of the creation week. And God created the stars on day four of the creation week. Since folks disagree as to whether these were 24 hour days or indeterminate periods of time, that does not move the football.

The studied confusion was simply pointing out God did create the wine with apparent age. So the view has at least a basis in scripture. And it is taught in Baptist churches.

 

[quantumfaith]

Translation:

"Numbers, symbols, numbers, big words, numbers, made-up words, numbers, headache, numbers, Acronymns, numbers, more headache..."

This is not what I want to see when I log on to a THEOLOGY forum. :tonofbricks:

Oh, I like it.

 

[MB]

According to science, light speed is constant and therefore the Big Bang occurred about 14 billion years ago. The Universe expanded and cooled and clumped into galaxies made up of various sized stars over the next few billions of years.

YEC say God created the Universe about 6000 years ago with apparent age.

The issue then becomes why would God create light in transit to earth such that it creates the impression of a supernova occurring 165,000 years ago.

I believe God did this to keep all of these intellectuals occupied on man made theories. Of course He knew it would strain there brains even more so they could come up with even more dumb theories. God does have a sense of Humor. I bet He's up there just laughing at them because we have men who actually doubt Him when He said He spoke it all into existence.

OEC face difficulties with accepting the Bible as written which suggests Adam and Eve were created from "dust" about 6000 years ago.

Eventually everyone seeks refuge in the "its a mystery" answer.

Mystery only because they doubt God. I think it's interesting that science has had 6000 years to figure out what God has already told us and still they doubt Him.
MB

 

[Van]

Hi MB, the mystery is spelled out in Job 38. To deny it is a mystery as to how God created everything is to deny scripture.

 

[pinoybaptist]

Oh, I like it.

yeah, me too.