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The Story of Ted Cruz

Zaac

Zaac

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Waste of time and a bunch of hooey. Stopped after 41 seconds.

A story of all of us. A love story of freedom?---Slavery anyone?
It's the story of our Founding Fathers who fought and bled for freedom.---while enslaving others.
The Framers understood that our rights came not from monarchs but from God.---yet it didn't stop them from enslaving people.
Freedom Fighter?


In the first 40 seconds of this thing, he completely dismisses the enslavement of a group of people. Yet we're supposed to believe he's serious about being a "freedom fighter"?:rolleyes:

Typical GOP candidate playing the Christian and Constitution cards while displaying little Christianity for anyone who doesn't believe as he does and even less belief that the freedoms of the Constitution was supposed to be for ALL.

I hope he's not displaying his Christian card when he stomps for deporting 12 million people.Thumbsdown

 
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Jordan Kurecki

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Zaac said:
Waste of time and a bunch of hooey. Stopped after 41 seconds.

A story of all of us. A love story of freedom?---Slavery anyone?
It's the story of our Founding Fathers who fought and bled for freedom.---while enslaving others.
The Framers understood that our rights came not from monarchs but from God.---yet it didn't stop them from enslaving people.
Freedom Fighter?


In the first 40 seconds of this thing, he completely dismisses the enslavement of a group of people. Yet we're supposed to believe he's serious about being a "freedom fighter"?:rolleyes:

Typical GOP candidate playing the Christian and Constitution cards while displaying little Christianity for anyone who doesn't believe as he does and even less belief that the freedoms of the Constitution was supposed to be for ALL.

I hope he's not displaying his Christian card when he stomps for deporting 12 million people.Thumbsdown
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Have you ever read the book America in Crimson red?

I think it would do you a whole lot of a good friend.
 
Zaac

Zaac

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Jordan Kurecki said:
Have you ever read the book America in Crimson red?

I think it would do you a whole lot of a good friend.
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Actually read it many years ago. And if my memory serves me correctly, nothing in that book negates what I said.

Ted Cruz or the person who did the video manages to marginalize the lives of all those who were enslaved in the first 40 seconds of that video in the same way as some of the majority has done since the founding of this country.
 
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Jordan Kurecki

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Zaac said:
Actually read it many years ago. And if my memory serves me correctly, nothing in that book negates what I said.

Ted Cruz or the person who did the video manages to marginalize the lives of all those who were enslaved in the first 40 seconds of that video in the same way as some of the majority has done since the founding of this country.
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But why do you choose to focus on slavery? Why do you feel the need to bring it up? look, there have always been wrongs and crimes in this nations and history and all nations. We are past this whole slavery thing though, what we can potentially see coming back though is religious persecution, similar to what we saw back in the early years of our nations history.
 
carpro

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Jordan Kurecki said:
But why do you choose to focus on slavery?
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He doesn't care about skin color or slavery or cops that shoot blacks, or conservatives or republicans. He's only here to disrupt. Shifting the focus is one way to do that.
Try not to feed him.
 
Zaac

Zaac

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Jordan Kurecki said:
But why do you choose to focus on slavery? Why do you feel the need to bring it up?
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I chose to focus on slavery for the very reason that I mentioned earlier. The majority in this country have marginalized the lives of Blacks since the founding of this country. We continue to act like it didn't happen. I mentioned it because the people who put the video together started it off with "You will know the truth and the truth will set you free". John 8:32

From there Ted Cruz says he wants to tell us a love story. It's the story of all of us. Yet he then proceeds to only tell the story of PART of us. Because there was nothing loving or of freedom about the way Blacks were enslaved in this country by the Founders.

But I guess he's only selling a version of the truth.

"The Framers understood that our rights came not from monarchs, but from God". Yet no mention of how amazing it was that the same Framers obviously didn't give a rip about the rights of the Blacks they were enslaving.

So I say again, he can save the marginalizing of all those lives for someone who is buying the horrible pig that he's trying to dress up to look presentable.

look, there have always been wrongs and crimes in this nations and history and all nations. We are past this whole slavery thing though, what we can potentially see coming back though is religious persecution, similar to what we saw back in the early years of our nations history.
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No, we're not past it as the descendants of the very same majority who enslaved a people can't even bring themselves to admit most of the time that it happened and was a heinous part of this country's history. And a lot of Christians are as remiss to acknowledge the heinousness of the racism and racial prejudices in this country's today and past as were the Christians during slavery and the Civil Rights era.

And this video reinforces that marginalization.

So it was brought up because Ted Cruz's video is selling a lie.
 
Zaac

Zaac

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Revmitchell said:
We are no less past whites who owned slaves as we are blacks who owned slaves.
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And there you go again trying to marginalize all those lives that were enslaved by Whites in this country. And ain't no one said that anyone on this board owned slaves.
 
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Revmitchell

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Actually I am marginalizing those who try to make a current issue of slavery. And I am pretty effective.
 
Zaac

Zaac

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You can call it as dumb as you wish. But it would behoove me to be fooled that the man cares anything about truth while pushing a sappy video that marginalizes lives and the truth.
 
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Revmitchell

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No one is denying anything. Not one single person on this board has ever said that slavery never happened. So the denial claim is just false.

However, it is also true that blacks owned slaves and the very first slave owner was a black man and he was very brutal. Black people have just as much responsibility with regards to slavery as anyone else. No race is free from guilt, and no race has any more guilt than another.

Those who are free from guilt are everyone who lives today. No living man, woman, or child took part in the slavery of the past. Not as owners, not as slaves. Therefore, trying to make issue of it is evil and wicked and dishonest.
 
Zaac

Zaac

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Revmitchell said:
No one is denying anything. Not one single person on this board has ever said that slavery never happened. So the denial claim is just false.[
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And if you'd read what I wrote, you'd see I didn't speak to a single person ON THIS BOARD denying it. I said the majority, like Ted Cruz, continue to act like it didn't happen. If you aren't included in that majority, then I wasn't talking to you.

However, it is also true that blacks owned slaves and the very first slave owner was a black man and he was very brutal. .
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Who owned whom is irrelevant to the point I made about the video.
Black people have just as much responsibility with regards to slavery as anyone else. No race is free from guilt, and no race has any more guilt than another
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And you're as ridiculously silly as I thought you were if you really believe that. But you can save that lie for someone who doesn't know history.


Those who are free from guilt are everyone who lives today. No living man, woman, or child took part in the slavery of the past. Not as owners, not as slaves. Therefore, trying to make issue of it is evil and wicked and dishonest.
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Trying to dismiss it as though it is currently a nonissue is evil, wicked and dishonest.
Trying to pretend that Whites aren't the ones who promulgated 200+ years of Blacks in this country is evil, wicked and dishonest.
Trying to act as thought the racism and racial prejudice that took place during slavery and Jim Crow isn't taking place right now is evil, wicked and dishonest.

SO like I said, in the first 40 seconds of this thing, he completely dismisses the enslavement of a group of people. Yet we're supposed to believe he's serious about being a "freedom fighter"?:rolleyes:

Typical GOP candidate playing the Christian and Constitution cards while displaying little Christianity for anyone who doesn't believe as he does and even less belief that the freedoms of the Constitution was supposed to be for ALL.

But there seem to be a lot of the Ted Cruz type Christianity on the radicalized right.
 
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