The Theology of Divorce {Matt.5:32}

Help!!! So far, I've had a question go unanswered, probably unintentionally. I'll ask it again, amd maybe y'all can come up with an answer:

What about the person whose spouse left him, even if that spouse did not leave for a biblical reason? If a divorce is granted to the leaving spouse, what's the remaining spouse to do?

In reading the biblical example (infidelity) it referrs to when YOU may leave YOUR SPOUSE. But it doesn't address when YOUR SPOUSE leaves YOU. Therefore, if you leave your spouse unbiblically and remary, you're committing adultery. But if your spouse leaves you and you remarry, you're not.

What thinks ye??

 

Ye grasp at straws.

 

Can you point out that passage where Moses said you could divorce for burning a meal or some ridiculous reason?

 

1. Actually, he never said any such thing.
If anything (and it is a stretch), he only said that a divorce is allowed.

2. No one denies this. The dispute is what is meant by "bondage" and not being under it anymore.

 

Johnv, why do you have to ask this question?

Did not Paul address that in 1 Cor. 7:10-11?

 

Um... you believe that because you want to believe that.

 

Seems as though feelings are more important than God's word.

Matthew 5:32But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Why is it so many prople have a problem understanding what the Lord Jesus Christ said in plain words? So one has to go through life unmarried? So what?

God established 2 institutions marriage and the local church. This makes marriage very important. Forget modern society's slant on any subject, what does the Word of God say?

 

Ray, You say my human desire to keep the clergy clean, are you implying it is not God's desire for preachers to be clean. You take it right I do not believe God can forgive and forget sin, I believe He can forgive and choose not to remember sin. To forget and to choose to not remember are two diferent things. I think every sin but the sin of blaspemy of the Holy Ghost will be forgiven. You sound though as if it's allright to plan ahead to sin because w know God will forgive us or that when a preacher sins God will forgive and not forget it and the preacher can keep on preaching well this sounds okay to you apparently but the Scriptures do teach a preacher is to be married once in his life. If he is married more than once sure God will forgive him but that preacher has canceled his call to the ministry. Ray,, just wandering have you been double-married?
I am in my seventeenth age so I have not been a pastor but I carry the same Bible you do(actually I carry a KJB I'm not sure what you carry)and we have the same Holy Ghost in us if we're saved.My church discipline book is the Authorized King James Bible. If a pastor gets divorced it sounds like the "rule his own house" part has been broken. How can he tell me to keep my marriage together and he could not keep his own together?
I have understood the KJB(not perfectly though) since I have been saved and I know not the state of your three children but I would venture to say if their saved they can understand the KJB too.About these two perversions it does not matter too me what they say with all do respect.I am not trying to be more strict than God Himself but I would suppose more confusion woul occur when a pastor condones sin. In paragraph 10, you spoke of a woman with a lost cheating husband and the wife gets a divorce and you would hate to tell her not to get remarried. I agree this situation is sad, but two wrongs dont make aright and telling her to sin so she wont be tempted is obviously the wrong thing to do.And acting as if sin is not so bad if it will help not to sin later. One sin does not make aright. I was trying to sound bitter or abusive when I wrote on used cars. I do not think your kids when in high school would have understood without the aid of a dictionary though your 11th paragraph.

 

You know it seems so funny to me that divorce is such a big topic in the Baptist realm and I am a Baptist and I have been divorced. You all make it look like it's worse than any other sin and sometimes it's not even a sin. It's unfortunate and there are consequences to everything. If you want to know the truth most people have commited adultery or fornication in their minds or have even been impure before they were married. The only difference is they don't have a piece of paper showing a divorce. Marriage is thing that should be forever but it's sometimes isn't that way. And why is it there can be a person that was once a drug addict or a murder and people will accept them more in their pulpit or church then they will a divorced person. It just boggles my mind how people can see the beam in someone elses eye and not see it in their own.

 

I know what Paul thinks.

~Lorelei

 

Lorelei, it is amazing that this verse becomes sovereign over all other passages for you. Your interpretation of this contradicts everything Paul just got done saying and what Christ had said earlier.

 

Johnv, why do you have to ask this question?

Did not Paul address that in 1 Cor. 7:10-11? </font>[/QUOTE]No, Paul did not address this. Paul discusses a wife departing, but it does not discuss a wife divorcing. I ask this because I'm the one who was left. My spouse left me for another person, which leaves me to marry again, since she committed adultery. But what if she simply left because she didn't want to be married to me. If I contest and she's granted a divorce anyway, I don't see where Paul is being specific to that situation.

Furthermore, if I, a divorced man, feel the desire to have sexual relations with a woman, Paul says that the woman and I "cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.". (verse 9)

 

We have been down this road often, Johnv. The more I engage these discussions, the more clearly it all really is.

 

Actually, I think I've only discussed this once before, and that was in regards to physical abuse and divorce.

 

Preach, it's funny how you gathered my interpretation from the words of Paul. I didn't expound on them, I just posted them.

~Lorelei

 

I think we have gone around and around again on this very idea. I know what you believe.

 

Did you ever read those verses in context? Try reading them including verses 25& 26 and thru verse 40. Makes more sense and won't stand alone in meaning.

 

Actually it's better to keep the entire chapter together in context. I was merely pointing out these verses because someone wanted to use verses 7-10 and there is more to it than that. In verse 40 Paul specifically tells us that it his judgement.

Just as Preach suggested these verses can't contradict what else Paul said, It also stands that those verses can't contradict these words either. They are there for a reason, you can't ignore them because it is convenient to do so.

To suggest I haven't read the whole chapter, well, is that attitude necessary?

~Lorelei