The Trashing of America

[Ed Edwards]

Charles"

Tobit?

Yep, I checked it (I check people's ability to cut & paste )
That is what it is and Charles quoted it right.
It is in Both the Electronic & Paper copies of the
KJV1611 Editions that I have.
Part of the Apocryhpha, you know.

 

[charles_creech78]

Yep, I checked it (I check people's ability to cut & paste )
That is what it is and Charles quoted it right.
It is in Both the Electronic & Paper copies of the
KJV1611 Editions that I have.
Part of the Apocryhpha, you know.

I got a bible program. Thanks be to God.

 

[Bro. Williams]

KJV 1611 edition brother. Go to e-sword.com down load it. It free.(Geneva) If you turne to him with your whole heart, and with your whole minde, & deale vprightly before him, then will he turne vnto you, and will not hide his face from you, but ye shal see what he will doe with you: therefore confesse him with your whole mouth, & praise the Lord of righteousnes, & extoll the euerlasting King. I wil cofesse him in the land of my captiuitie, and will declare his power, & greatnes to a sinfull nation. O ye sinners, turne and do iustice before him: who can tell if he wil receiue you to mercy, and haue pitie on you?

Charles, do you know what the word apocrypha means?

 

[Bro. Williams]

Yep, I checked it (I check people's ability to cut & paste )
That is what it is and Charles quoted it right.
It is in Both the Electronic & Paper copies of the
KJV1611 Editions that I have.
Part of the Apocryhpha, you know.

Yes, I know.

 

[charles_creech78]

Charles, do you know what the word apocrypha means?

Yes I do know what it means.

 

[Ed Edwards]

Speaking of showing what something means:

the Source cited in the OP (opening post) references
these Lyrics:

When the moon is in the 7th house
And Jupiter aligns with Mars,
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will fill your heart;
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius.

But the people at the Jeremiah Project don't seem
to understand what it means (they did get it right
that the song specifies the New Age goals).

The current system of Astrology (looking to the stars
for Truth instead of to God's Revelation of Himself
in God's Written Word: the Holy Bible) was formulated
as a Pagan religion in the Babolonian area about
2500 years ago.

Unfortunately, that system of relating earthly
events doesn't take care of the 24,000 year cycle
of the earth called the Procession of the Axis. The
North pole of Earth moves around in a small circle
every 24,000 years. So from 500BC (evidently the system
existed long before 500BC, but that is when the
Jews were exposed to it) to 2000AD the
star signs had gotten two places out of wack -- the 'star sign'
you were born under was not the same as the actual
constellations in the sky are -- off two signs.

Well, the 'age of Aquarius' (we went into it about 2003,
or was it 1986?, whatever?) event of the song
is when we go into the age of Aquarius from the then
current age of Pices (the fish). Well Pices, the fish, is
representative of the Christian Church -- and
Aquarius, the water bearer, is representative of
Paganism - ( Paganism is all wet )

Congradulations: 'the dawning of the Age of Aquarius
means the Astrological Signs are three signs off
the actual sky instead of only two.
Sometimes education is good, you know.

 

[Bro. Williams]

I got a bible program. Thanks be to God.

Do you hold the apocrypha to be the very words of God?

 

[charles_creech78]

To tell you the truth I don't know yet. Do you believe in it.

 

[Bro. Williams]

Brother, it was actually stuck between the two testaments, and I do not believe (someone correct me here if I'm wrong) it was considered a part of the canon by the translators.

But do what you wish, you just might want to read up on it a bit more, that's all.

 

[JustChristian]

Brother, it was actually stuck between the two testaments, and I do not believe (someone correct me here if I'm wrong) it was considered a part of the canon by the translators.

But do what you wish, you just might want to read up on it a bit more, that's all.

It was included in the original version of the King James version of the Bible in 1611.

 

[Bro. Williams]

It was included in the original version of the King James version of the Bible in 1611.

Uhh... yeah. I believe I mentioned that.

 

[Rippon]

Were the KJV translators "inspired" by putting the Apocrypha between the Old and New Testaments ?

 

[Bro. Williams]

Were the translators inspired themselves, at all?

 

[Rippon]

They were not inspired a la 2 Timothy 3:16 . The labor of the revisors , was , for the most part , derivative of William Tyndale's hard work .

 

[Bro. Williams]

and?........

 

[Rippon]

I was simply answering the question you raised : " Were the translators inspired themselves , at all ?" Did you forget your own query ?

 

[Bro. Williams]

Not at all, it is post #33.

Remember, you began this new discussion with me. I thought there must be something more, I guess I was mistaken.

 

[hillclimber1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism

From the Wikipedia source:

Christian communists trace the origins of their practice to the New Testament book Acts of the Apostles at chapter 2 and verses 42, 44, and 45:

42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and in fellowship ... 44 And all that believed were together, and had all things in common; 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. (King James Version)

The theme is reiterated in Acts 4:32-37:

32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. 33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. 34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. 36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus, 37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet. (King James Version)

The Messiah was there to take Davids throne, and establish His Kingdom, and organizing the people in "koinonia" was the theme of the day. I guess we would call it a benevolent dictatorship, but the point is, this was not to be a man made Communism, but a system under the leadership of Jesus Christ. ie, the Millennial Kingdom. But because of Israels rejection of the Messiah, the Kingdom was NOT established at that time. We later see Paul taking collections for those folks.

 

[2 Timothy2:1-4]

From the Wikipedia source:

The Messiah was there to take Davids throne, and establish His Kingdom, and organizing the people in "koinonia" was the theme of the day. I guess we would call it a benevolent dictatorship, but the point is, this was not to be a man made Communism, but a system under the leadership of Jesus Christ. ie, the Millennial Kingdom. But because of Israels rejection of the Messiah, the Kingdom was NOT established at that time. We later see Paul taking collections for those folks.

Could you elaborate on this?

 

[betterthanideserve]

It is unbelievable how far down this road we have come in the past 40 or so years. Things have gotten so bad, we have long forgotten the days when the Democrats had some similance of morality, such as Truman. Over the years, it has progressed to the point that in the last 7 or so years, the Republican party has followed in lock step with the trend. The anger from Christians is presently directed at the Republicans, because, not many years ago, they also had a framework of morality. That has radically changed as of late.

The dilemma Christians find themselves in is that there is no one to vote or fight for. Since both major parties that have any chance of winning are totally debased, it will take a miracle of God to turn it around. There is no longer any viable alternative to greed, corruption, and immorality.

When Truman bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki who lived there(in those cities)?
I think you may want to re-evaluate your view of Truman ,for the two cities were mainly Japanese CHRISTIANS and Truman knew it BEFORE he bombed them.There were no targets of great military importance,i.e manufacturing plants etc
Truman was a 33rd degree Freemason and was givin the 33rd degree shortly after the bombs were dropped...................