The Triangle Factory Fire Of 1911

[John Yurich]

The Triangle Factory Fire of March 1911 had an interesting spiritual realm to it. Some of the women who survived stated they saw a man at the windows trying to get the women to jump to their deaths. But naturally the Catholic women refused to do that as they were taught that suicide would lead them to Hell. There were eyewitnesses that stated that the man was not seen exiting the building. That man must have been one of the fallen angels trying to get as many women into Hell by having them do themselves in by suicide.

 

[Rolfe]

That man must have been one of the fallen angels trying to get as many women into Hell by having them do themselves in by suicide.

Please show a scriptural basis for your belief that suicide is unpardonable and is an automatic ticket to Hell.

 

[John Yurich]

Please show a scriptural basis for your belief that suicide is unpardonable and is an automatic ticket to Hell.

Suicide is in reality self murder, which is a violation of the Commandment against murder. If one commits suicide then they are incapable of repenting of the sin of suicide and thus go to Hell.

 

[Rolfe]

Suicide is in reality self murder, which is a violation of the Commandment against murder. If one commits suicide then they are incapable of repenting of the sin of suicide and thus go to Hell.

How do you reconcile that with Romans 8:38,39?

38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[a] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers,39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Can a believer, who is part of creation, separate himself from the love of Our Lord? I do not think so.

 

[Reynolds]

The Triangle Factory Fire of March 1911 had an interesting spiritual realm to it. Some of the women who survived stated they saw a man at the windows trying to get the women to jump to their deaths. But naturally the Catholic women refused to do that as they were taught that suicide would lead them to Hell. There were eyewitnesses that stated that the man was not seen exiting the building. That man must have been one of the fallen angels trying to get as many women into Hell by having them do themselves in by suicide.

First, I do not believe that suicide will send a saved person to Hell. Outside that, this particular instance is not suicide. It is simply choosing whether to die of sudden massive blunt force trauma or whether to die by being consumed by fire.

 

[annsni]

Suicide is in reality self murder, which is a violation of the Commandment against murder. If one commits suicide then they are incapable of repenting of the sin of suicide and thus go to Hell.

Could a murderer go to heaven?

 

[John Yurich]

First, I do not believe that suicide will send a saved person to Hell. Outside that, this particular instance is not suicide. It is simply choosing whether to die of sudden massive blunt force trauma or whether to die by being consumed by fire.

If suicide does not lead one to Hell then why was there a fallen angel at the window of the Triangle Factory during that fire trying to get those women to jump to their deaths and thus in reality commit suicide?

 

[John Yurich]

Could a murderer go to heaven?

Murderers do not go to Heaven.

 

[InTheLight]

Murderers do not go to Heaven.

So Paul, author of most of the New Testament, is not going to Heaven? Oh-oh...

 

[John Yurich]

So Paul, author of most of the New Testament, is not going to Heaven? Oh-oh...

I should have stated that murderers who do not repent of their murders do not go to Heaven. And since Saint Paul did of course repent and received Jesus as his Savior and Lord then he is in Heaven.

 

[InTheLight]

I should have stated that murderers who do not repent of their murders do not go to Heaven. And since Saint Paul did of course repent and received Jesus as his Savior and Lord then he is in Heaven.

That's what I was hoping you'd say.

 

[Baptist Believer]

That man must have been one of the fallen angels trying to get as many women into Hell by having them do themselves in by suicide.

If the man existed at all, why do you assert that it "must" have been a supernatural figure?

Suicide is in reality self murder, which is a violation of the Commandment against murder. If one commits suicide then they are incapable of repenting of the sin of suicide and thus go to Hell.

This is terrible theology since it means that anyone who dies with unrepented sin in their lives will face destruction. That's salvation by moral purity, not the grace of God. In other words, Jesus only gave us a bath, but if we get dirty again, we're on our own.

People commit suicide when they feel they cannot endure facing another day or moment. There's a myriad of reasons for that, including mental illness, that even true Christians may struggle with.

If suicide does not lead one to Hell then why was there a fallen angel at the window of the Triangle Factory during that fire trying to get those women to jump to their deaths and thus in reality commit suicide?

Circular reasoning.

 

[Reynolds]

If suicide does not lead one to Hell then why was there a fallen angel at the window of the Triangle Factory during that fire trying to get those women to jump to their deaths and thus in reality commit suicide?

What proof is there that a fallen angel in fact did this?

 

[TCassidy]

What proof is there that a fallen angel in fact did this?

None. After researching the incident I could find no eye witness testimony to what the OP is claiming. None.

 

[John Yurich]

What proof is there that a fallen angel in fact did this?

There were women who survived the Triangle Factory Fire that stated there was a man that suddenly appeared at a window encouraging women to jump to their deaths.

 

[Baptist Believer]

There were women who survived the Triangle Factory Fire that stated there was a man that suddenly appeared at a window encouraging women to jump to their deaths.

I have heard that before, but it was a sensationalist television program that used it as a teaser. I'm sure someone somewhere claimed that, but I am quite skeptical. It has the sound of an urban legend to me.

 

[Reynolds]

There were women who survived the Triangle Factory Fire that stated there was a man that suddenly appeared at a window encouraging women to jump to their deaths.

What proof do you have that the man was a fallen angel? Please avoid circular logic in providing this proof.