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[atpollard]

He has made the US a laughing stock on the world stage.

Venezuela is not laughing.
Neither is Cuba or Columbia.

Apparently, when the current President of the United States threatens to do something, his actions back up his words.

 

[atpollard]

Yes they know we are coming after them so they are preparing.

China is preparing to retake Taiwan. When a despotic leader for life tells you that he will do something, it is foolish not to believe him.

 

[Deacon]

President Trump is using the presidency as it should be used.
He's using the power he has to achieve the goals he expressed.
Dictator, no! He's doing what other Presidents have done in the past, except he's doing it with a purpose.

The military force he's used recently is in line with what other modern presidents have used.
He's not declaring military war, but controlled, limited excursions such as was done in Venezuela, are being used to strategically destabilize other nations.
What's more, he's not trying to bribe other nations to act well like 0bama and Biden, both gave billions to Iran to no avail.
Trump is using the power of the American consumer to encourage nations to change - a form of economic warfare.

Concerning Greenland:
President Trump knows that that Russia and China have been increasing their capabilities in the Arctic.
Greenland is a target: without American protection Greenland is defenseless.

Europe can't even handle Ukraine, they are not about to build up forces in Greenland.
President Trump knows that America can protect it in ways that Europe cannot.
It's a win-win for everyone. We build military bases there for protection and the resources become a source of jobs and income for the people.

Rob

 

[Conan]

China is preparing to retake Taiwan. When a despotic leader for life tells you that he will do something, it is foolish not to believe him.

Or you could be in error. The Chinese plan of peaceful reunification by 2049. Taiwan is Chinese. In the Chinese civil war the imperial government was run off the mainland to the Island of Taiwan. The Japanese took Taiwan in WW2 and used it as a staging area to attack China. Now we want to use Taiwan against China. God might see the situation different than you. You want to cross the Pacific and attack China. That would make us the aggressors.

 

[Conan]

President Trump is using the presidency as it should be used.
He's using the power he has to achieve the goals he expressed.
Dictator, no! He's doing what other Presidents have done in the past, except he's doing it with a purpose.

The military force he's used recently is in line with what other modern presidents have used.
He's not declaring military war, but controlled, limited excursions such as was done in Venezuela, are being used to strategically destabilize other nations.
What's more, he's not trying to bribe other nations to act well like 0bama and Biden, both gave billions to Iran to no avail.
Trump is using the power of the American consumer to encourage nations to change - a form of economic warfare.

Concerning Greenland:
President Trump knows that that Russia and China have been increasing their capabilities in the Arctic.
Greenland is a target: without American protection Greenland is defenseless.

Europe can't even handle Ukraine, they are not about to build up forces in Greenland.
President Trump knows that America can protect it in ways that Europe cannot.
It's a win-win for everyone. We build military bases there for protection and the resources become a source of jobs and income for the people.

Rob

The Arctic sea is opening up new sea lanes for trade. We don't want China and Russia having easy access to new shipping lanes. Were trying to cut them off from shipping their goods around the world. What right to we have to do that? America can't compete economically so we gotta cheat? Think God is pleased with that?

 

[atpollard]

Or you could be in error. The Chinese plan of peaceful reunification by 2049. Taiwan is Chinese. In the Chinese civil war the imperial government was run off the mainland to the Island of Taiwan. The Japanese took Taiwan in WW2 and used it as a staging area to attack China. Now we want to use Taiwan against China. God might see the situation different than you. You want to cross the Pacific and attack China. That would make us the aggressors.

I don’t want to do anything. The US is dedicated to keeping “International Waters” open to all commercial traffic (which Chinese warships occasionally attempt to block). Taiwan is dedicated to its own defense (which doesn’t concern me except as a market for military hardware). YOU claimed that the Chinese navy was to defend against a U.S. invasion (which is logistical nonsense). The Chinese Navy is to project Chinese power in the South China Sea (so China can invade Taiwan as they have stated they intend to in spite of the objections of Taiwan).

 

[Silverhair]

Venezuela is not laughing.
Neither is Cuba or Columbia.

Apparently, when the current President of the United States threatens to do something, his actions back up his words.

So invading a sovereign nation is a good thing? Why would support someone that does not understand the rule of law?

The US has lost any since of honor, and is not respected in the world.

 

[Silverhair]

It isn’t that we are all sticking our head in the sand. I can look at our economy as I drive down the road. I can see when we are building and selling. I can see when there is decline. It’s in the stock yards. You could see it with your own eyes if you lived here. I don’t take all my political views from loud people. I can literally look at what political leanings of the country are doing economically. I can see what our leanings are socially. As in, I have no doubt as I look around seeing who stands up for social issues in a biblical way or not.

I’m sorry you are so far removed from us that you couldn’t see it yourself.

I can see that they are building and selling where I live but I also see that the overall economy is worse now than it was a year ago.

The middle class is being hollowed out in both countries.

 

[Silverhair]

President Trump is using the presidency as it should be used.
He's using the power he has to achieve the goals he expressed.
Dictator, no! He's doing what other Presidents have done in the past, except he's doing it with a purpose.

The military force he's used recently is in line with what other modern presidents have used.
He's not declaring military war, but controlled, limited excursions such as was done in Venezuela, are being used to strategically destabilize other nations.
What's more, he's not trying to bribe other nations to act well like 0bama and Biden, both gave billions to Iran to no avail.
Trump is using the power of the American consumer to encourage nations to change - a form of economic warfare.

Concerning Greenland:
President Trump knows that that Russia and China have been increasing their capabilities in the Arctic.
Greenland is a target: without American protection Greenland is defenseless.

Europe can't even handle Ukraine, they are not about to build up forces in Greenland.
President Trump knows that America can protect it in ways that Europe cannot.
It's a win-win for everyone. We build military bases there for protection and the resources become a source of jobs and income for the people.

Rob

That is a very the US is right no matter what they do attitude.

You try to put a good spin on all that he has done but sorry wrong is wrong. Invading another country is an act of war.

Would you be so comfortable if the shoe was on the other foot and it was the US that was being invaded? I doubt it.

As for Ukraine they are doing quite well even when Trump sides with Putin more often than not. Remember it is Ukraine that is fighting Putin not Europe.

 

[Conan]

That is a very the US is right no matter what they do attitude.

You try to put a good spin on all that he has done but sorry wrong is wrong. Invading another country is an act of war.

Would you be so comfortable if the shoe was on the other foot and it was the US that was being invaded? I doubt it.

As for Ukraine they are doing quite well even when Trump sides with Putin more often than not. Remember it is Ukraine that is fighting Putin not Europe.

Trump tried to kill Putin just a couple of weeks ago. Trump promised to get us out of the war with Russia but has lied to our faces and has not. His advisors and Europe's wicked social elite has been supplying weapons since day one. The Russians have destroyed it all. Everything NATO has thrown at Russia they have destroyed. You like backing Ukrainian NAZIS against Russians? Russian civilians? Thats what the fight is about, Ukrainian's persecuting ethnic Russian speaking peoples. Thats what the Ukrainian civil war was about. You and Trump want Russia to collapse so our billionaires can bust it up so we can loot Russia easier that way, like the old Bill Clintºn years. The only thing Trump has done is make the Europeans pay for the weapons. They now spend 5% of GDP on US made weapons instead of 2%. Europe has received it's marching order from Hegseth. They are to tie up RUSSIA while we go after China and their shipping lanes. We are fighting Russia using Ukraine as a proxy force. That's what we trained them for and that's why we poured all available weapons into Ukraine. Russia has destroyed them all. All NATO stocks have been depleted. Doesn't matter who is President, American Foreign Policy is war. Trump promised to get us out of war with Russia but has broken his promise. He's on your side.

 

[Conan]

I don’t want to do anything. The US is dedicated to keeping “International Waters” open to all commercial traffic (which Chinese warships occasionally attempt to block). Taiwan is dedicated to its own defense (which doesn’t concern me except as a market for military hardware). YOU claimed that the Chinese navy was to defend against a U.S. invasion (which is logistical nonsense). The Chinese Navy is to project Chinese power in the South China Sea (so China can invade Taiwan as they have stated they intend to in spite of the objections of Taiwan).

All of China's shipping goes through the South China Sea. 90% is their goods going out to the world or coming to China through the South China Sea. Thats all of its business. I think you mean we want to strangle South China's sea lanes. The United States Long ago acknowledged Taiwan as part of China, at least as long ago as NIXON.

 

[Ben1445]

I can see that they are building and selling where I live but I also see that the overall economy is worse now than it was a year ago.

The middle class is being hollowed out in both countries.

The working middle class is functioning normally. If the current middle class spent more time on creating value than they did “influencing” then it would go a long way to helping the middle class.
I don’t know what your standard of living is for the middle class.
But nobody has come to my door and said that I am not allowed to manage my own finances and be intelligent about my money.
If the middle class is hollowing out, it is happening in their own heads first. The rest of the world doesn’t dictate whether or not the middle class creates value. And only the individual decides how they will retain the value they create.

 

[Ben1445]

That is a very the US is right no matter what they do attitude.

You try to put a good spin on all that he has done but sorry wrong is wrong. Invading another country is an act of war.

Would you be so comfortable if the shoe was on the other foot and it was the US that was being invaded? I doubt it.

As for Ukraine they are doing quite well even when Trump sides with Putin more often than not. Remember it is Ukraine that is fighting Putin not Europe.

I thought we already established that Trump didn’t invade Venezuela. Trump entered Venezuela by invitation from Maduro. Maduro told Trump to come and not be late.
It all worked out so I think we arrived in a timely fashion.

 

[Silverhair]

I thought we already established that Trump didn’t invade Venezuela. Trump entered Venezuela by invitation from Maduro. Maduro told Trump to come and not be late.
It all worked out so I think we arrived in a timely fashion.

Yes Maduro was dumb to say what he did but when you send your armed forces into another country to kidnap someone that is an act of war. The fact that Maduro had said what he did does not change that.

Maduro was just bragging the same as Trump is bragging what he says the US is the greatest country in the world. The comment is not to be taken seriously.

 

[Silverhair]

The working middle class is functioning normally. If the current middle class spent more time on creating value than they did “influencing” then it would go a long way to helping the middle class.
I don’t know what your standard of living is for the middle class.
But nobody has come to my door and said that I am not allowed to manage my own finances and be intelligent about my money.
If the middle class is hollowing out, it is happening in their own heads first. The rest of the world doesn’t dictate whether or not the middle class creates value. And only the individual decides how they will retain the value they create.

Well it seems all those economists have just got it wrong.

 

[Conan]

Yes Maduro was dumb to say what he did but when you send your armed forces into another country to kidnap someone that is an act of war. The fact that Maduro had said what he did does not change that.

Maduro was just bragging the same as Trump is bragging what he says the US is the greatest country in the world. The comment is not to be taken seriously.

You are mistaken. Maduro offered Trump that America could invest in every part of Venezuela, Oil, mining, everything. Trump turned him down? Why? Because Trump and the Billionaires didn't want China to be able to invest in Venezuelan's wealth. He knew we could not compete fairly with China. China would out bid us at every turn. Globalist/USA oil companies take all of the wealth with them leaving nothing for Venezuela. It's called colonialism. You know, Belgian, British, French, Spanish Colonialism. China would actually give them fair value for their goods. Build their infrastructure. Where America keeps their infrastructure down under US International Sanctions, where no other countries can deal with them or face our wrath economically.

 

[Reynolds]

Or you could be in error. The Chinese plan of peaceful reunification by 2049. Taiwan is Chinese. In the Chinese civil war the imperial government was run off the mainland to the Island of Taiwan. The Japanese took Taiwan in WW2 and used it as a staging area to attack China. Now we want to use Taiwan against China. God might see the situation different than you. You want to cross the Pacific and attack China. That would make us the aggressors.

And you think Russia is not entitled to Ukraine?

 

[Reynolds]

You are mistaken. Maduro offered Trump that America could invest in every part of Venezuela, Oil, mining, everything. Trump turned him down? Why? Because Trump and the Billionaires didn't want China to be able to invest in Venezuelan's wealth. He knew we could not compete fairly with China. China would out bid us at every turn. Globalist/USA oil companies take all of the wealth with them leaving nothing for Venezuela. It's called colonialism. You know, Belgian, British, French, Spanish Colonialism. China would actually give them fair value for their goods. Build their infrastructure. Where America keeps their infrastructure down under US International Sanctions, where no other countries can deal with them or face our wrath economically.

Trump turned them down because Venezuela had “nationalized” our investment once and he was not foolish enough to let them do it again.

 

[Conan]

And you think Russia is not entitled to Ukraine?

No they are not entitled nor do they want Ukraine. Of course they have no choice but to destroy through attrition Ukraines Army. And Eastern Ukraine is ethnic Russian. The four annexed Oblasts are Part of Russia. And since the Globalist won't let Ukraine negotiate but must fight to the last Ukrainian the Russians will liberate more ethnic Russian areas. Trump should have withdrew American CIA operatives, told NATO to stand down and quite giving satellite information to the Ukrainians. Even Right now American Generals are running the war for Ukraine. Why there hasn't been a nuclear exchange I contribute to God's grace but we may be testing God.

 

[Reynolds]

No they are not entitled nor do they want Ukraine. Of course they have no choice but to destroy through attrition Ukraines Army. And Eastern Ukraine is ethnic Russian. The four annexed Oblasts are Part of Russia. And since the Globalist won't let Ukraine negotiate but must fight to the last Ukrainian the Russians will liberate more ethnic Russian areas. Trump should have withdrew American CIA operatives, told NATO to stand down and quite giving satellite information to the Ukrainians. Even Right now American Generals are running the war for Ukraine. Why there hasn't been a nuclear exchange I contribute to God's grace but we may be testing God.

I personally think Putin is entitled to Ukraine.